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    Russian Navy: Status & News #1

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    Post  Viktor Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:46 am

    Still it counts 

    Russian Black Sea Fleet will receive four diving boat project 23040
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    Post  zg18 Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:25 pm

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    Project 18280 AGI "Yuri Ivanov" , "Admiral Gorshkov" and "Stoiky" (?)


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    "Ivanov"
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    Post  TR1 Tue Dec 10, 2013 12:12 am

    http://flotprom.ru/news/?ELEMENT_ID=157863

    Rostov-On-Don will be launched in May 2014.

    http://astra-novosti.ru/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/%D0%93%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BF%D0%BF%D0%B8%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BA%D0%B0-%D0%BA%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%B9-%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B8%D0%B9%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B9-%D1%84%D0%BB%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B8%D0%B8-%D0%B7%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%88%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B0-%D1%83%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%8F-%D0%B2-%D0%BC%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B5.jpg

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    Post  Austin Thu Dec 12, 2013 10:07 pm

    Longish interview with General Director of the Center repair "asterisk" Vladimir Nikitin.

    http://ria.ru/interview/20131213/983753332.html
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    Post  TR1 Thu Dec 12, 2013 11:13 pm

    Dat translation.....Zvezdochka....little star Wink

    Interview is a nice overview btw, thanks.
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    Post  Viktor Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:13 am

    Ustinov back in 2015.

    Russia to Finish Slava-Class Missile Cruiser Refit in 2015

    Akula-Class Nuclear Subs’ Overhaul Could Take Decade – Shipyard
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    Post  TR1 Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:09 am

    http://www.shipspotting.com/photos/big/7/2/2/1827227.jpg

    Interesting photo, because it is Novorosiiisk.

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    Post  TR1 Wed Dec 18, 2013 12:36 am

    Recent pics (2013) from the Pacific! I must say, they leave a positive vibe:

    http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9067/166203072.38/0_cfb73_b3381160_XXXL.jpg
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    Batons/Loafs....gruesome firepower considering their age.

    http://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/9515/166203072.38/0_cfb6f_7e8f0f25_XXXL.jpg
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    Nearby a Bars.....looks in good shape, and the shore facilities look taken care of as well.

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    Birds crapped all over the sonar.

    Anyways I am too lazy to post em all, check out the album yourself!

    http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/pressatof/album/341645/?&p=22

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    Post  Viktor Thu Dec 19, 2013 2:12 am

    Its for Artic but still a supply ship 

    "Severnaya Verf" laid serial arctic supply vessel for the Navy

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    Post  TR1 Sat Dec 21, 2013 9:59 am

    http://forums.airbase.ru/2013/12/t65778,10--eskadrennye-minonostsy-proekta-956-idealnyj-ubijtsa-aug-2.6889.html#p3301272

    A VERY interesting post by an experienced man on the 956s propulsion issues.
    I am busy right now, but I will translate the interesting points later. Till then, google do your thing.
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    Post  Austin Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:28 pm

    Will the 6 1135.6 and Gorshkov class Frigate will be armed with Brahmos ? Any concrete news ?

    I believe big capital ships will be armed with Oniks but the frigate will be armed with Brahmos.
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    Post  TR1 Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:23 am

    UKSK fires both Kalibr and Onix, so it is up to whatever mix they decide to employ.

    636.6 only fires Kalibr AFAIK....

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    Post  Austin Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:39 am

    I was asking specifically asking about Brahmos

    1135.6 and Gorshkov class frigate carry Brahmos or Oniks ?

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    Post  TR1 Tue Dec 24, 2013 1:47 am

    TBH I don't see them carrying Brahmos at all when they have fully domestic Onix.
    I certainly have not heard anything about Brahmos being tested or integrated for anything in the RuNavy, though technically it would be an easy adaptation.
    Gorshkov and Grigorovich both use UKSK, and the module is adapted for both Onix and Brahmos among others.
    Talwar has been using UKSK for Brahmos for years, its no issue.
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    Post  Vann7 Tue Dec 24, 2013 9:25 am

    Austin wrote:Will the 6 1135.6 and Gorshkov class Frigate will be armed with Brahmos ? Any concrete news ?

    I believe big capital ships will be armed with Oniks but the frigate will be armed with Brahmos.

    I don't think Russia will ever use brahmos  as their main missile. They could use it here and there in special times but not for long periods if they can avoid it..  Reasons for not using Brahmos..

    1)Way more expensive. Brahmos is two missiles in one.. land attack and anti-ship. Cost much more ,for being more
    complex. according to wiki  2.73 $US millions each.  a US tomahawk cost $500,000. each.. Calibrs land attack should be even cheaper.

    2)Range is limited to 300km unless they modify it with boosters that will require extra work and time.
    Russia Calibers land attack missiles for example range is rated from 900km to 2600km (depending on the source)

    3)Is always safer to use a missile that no one have. US and Israel and France have spies all over India
    (just like in RUssia) but the security of Brahmos design is something they have no control since is done in India.

    They can be used in combat jets ,so thats something where i can see Russia using them more in special times ,where suddenly need to attack a warship or land and they don't have an specific missile for it. This is actually the same for warships.. they could reserve one launcher or two with a brahmos  for special times.. which seems the best way for Russia to use them. For special times.



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    Post  Viktor Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:17 am

    New destroyers and frigates await Russian Navy. Its strange that Chirkov reffers to project 22350 as a "medium term ship" and that new frigates are planned 

    Navy Commander Chirkov showed promising projects destroyers and frigates
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    Post  Viktor Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:58 am

    Something to think about ... 

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    The corvette project Saburov
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    Post  flamming_python Sat Dec 28, 2013 4:46 am

    **southern US black man accent** da fuq is dat?..
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    Post  Hannibal Barca Sat Dec 28, 2013 5:00 am

    A Zumwalt class under microscope this is  Laughing 
    It can be tried to see if it is effective, cheap and easy to make.
    In other words if Russian engineers can succeed where Americans failed.
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    Post  flamming_python Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:15 am

    It looks a lil' "light" in terms of anti-aircraft capabilities. I mean a Palma gun-missile CIWS and AK-630M2 gun CIWS. Ain't gonna cut it.
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    Post  Hannibal Barca Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:29 am

    Well, if your purpose is to create a testbed for design evaluation then I guess the anti-aircraft capabilities is of secondary importance.
    Let alone that in this size of only 2000 tons and with a tumblehome design Saburov will be strictly littoral ship.
    Probably for the same reason of seaworthiness  the design deviates so much to the prow as well.

    Again from a first glance, it seems to me, as an engineer by profession, that Russians took the theoretical idea
    and try to implement it where it is most effective and better applied, in small littoral ships, for close-to-shore stealthy operations,
    with more conservative, more trustworthy technological solutions.
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    Post  collegeboy16 Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:03 pm

    Looks nice, though Id replace the 100mm with a 152mm gun.
    Air defence looks weak though its not like it would have to fend off squadrons aircraft and tens of ashm all at once.
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    Post  TR1 Sun Dec 29, 2013 12:11 am

    6 UKSK modules on a 2k ton hull?

    Lol, yeah right guys. Impossubr!
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    Post  KomissarBojanchev Sun Dec 29, 2013 9:14 am

    Wouldn't it be better for that concept corvette to have it's UKSKs reduced to 2 or 3 and others being replaced by a redut pod or morphei launchers?
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    Post  KomissarBojanchev Sun Dec 29, 2013 9:45 am

    Its quite dissapointing that all the buyan corvette under construction are only for the caspian fleet, so many of these highly potent ships are commisioned in the caspian sea, a place where russia has virtually no geopolitical enemies and the biggest threat bieng illegal fishermen and possibly dagestani suicide baots at most. It feels like wasted potential. They could be very good landing support vessels and offer a good firepower boost for fleets in poor o outdated condition, namely the black sea and pasific fleet. So why Equip the caspian with them first?. I understand giving the flotilla 1 or 2 buyans but 4-5 is just overkill for the potential enemy navies there.

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