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So the companies in the Ukraine who make 23mm and 30mm cannon and 30mm grenade launchers and anti tank guided missiles just got screwed in their own military....
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The flagship of the Ukrainian fleet was declared non-combat capable
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Tsavo Lion wrote:The flagship of the Ukrainian fleet was declared non-combat capable
I know it is the biggest ship that they have, but calling a 4000 tons frigate a flagship seems a bit ridiculous...
In addition the article mentioned (machine translated)
Despite the fact that at the time of the first launch it was the optimal combat unit
The optimal combat unit? It was a Krivak III class frigate built for the soviet coast guard. the Ukraine got it for free brand new... it was not a bad frigate in 1992 but I would definitely not have called it the optimal combat unit....
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Ukraine doesn't have any other better armed & bigger active ship, so it's a flagship by default.
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More on the British £1B deal on missile boats
Navy Lookout
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UK defence Attaché in Kiev, Cdre Tim Woods confirms new missile boats for the
Flag of Ukraine
Ukrainian Navy will be UK-designed and first 4 will be constructed in Britain.
50 - 65 meters in length and capable of 40 knots.
Navy Lookout
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UK defence Attaché in Kiev, Cdre Tim Woods confirms new missile boats for the
Flag of Ukraine
Ukrainian Navy will be UK-designed and first 4 will be constructed in Britain.
50 - 65 meters in length and capable of 40 knots.
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Turned west. Get military aid to keep a civil war in their country. Spend money on useless boats. Keep the economy down.
Where are UE economical aid for their economy ? How do they pay gas now that left friendly prices of Russia for UE/US companies ? Is US/UR market open for them ? Will those boat at least carry ukrainian engines ? Will ukrainian shipyards get money for those boats ?
They got fuck deap.
Where are UE economical aid for their economy ? How do they pay gas now that left friendly prices of Russia for UE/US companies ? Is US/UR market open for them ? Will those boat at least carry ukrainian engines ? Will ukrainian shipyards get money for those boats ?
They got fuck deap.
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A I understand it the £1B is aid, think a gift. First 4 boats we make the other 6 are effectively assembled under license in Ukraine, I assume with same parts as first 4.Isos wrote:Turned west. Get military aid to keep a civil war in their country. Spend money on useless boats. Keep the economy down.
Where are UE economical aid for their economy ? How do they pay gas now that left friendly prices of Russia for UE/US companies ? Is US/UR market open for them ? Will those boat at least carry ukrainian engines ? Will ukrainian shipyards get money for those boats ?
They got fuck deap.
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It's not an aid. It's an investement to keep the war in the country.
An aid is to help, not to destroy.
An aid is to help, not to destroy.
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Shocking news!!! The naval balance in the Black Sea has changed.
The United States has transferred 20 new high mobility multi-purpose wheeled vehicles (HMMWV), aka Humvees, and 84 boats to the Ukrainian Armed Forces.The military equipment was supplied within the Ukrainian Security Assistance Initiative. “Nothing could stop the delivery of 20 Humvees to the Ukrainian Land Forces and Special Operations Forces along with 84 boats for the Ukrainian Navy as part of the Ukrainian Security Assistance Initiative,” the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv wrote on Twitter on January 15.
OK, you don’t need to listen to Russian here, just turn the sound off and enjoy the visuals, solemnity and the geopolitical grandeur of this event.
Not sure what the significance is of shots of F-15 in Carolina is.
https://anti-empire.com/ukraine-plots-the-return-of-crimea-after-the-us-provides-it-with-84-inflatable-boats/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily+Headlines
The United States has transferred 20 new high mobility multi-purpose wheeled vehicles (HMMWV), aka Humvees, and 84 boats to the Ukrainian Armed Forces.The military equipment was supplied within the Ukrainian Security Assistance Initiative. “Nothing could stop the delivery of 20 Humvees to the Ukrainian Land Forces and Special Operations Forces along with 84 boats for the Ukrainian Navy as part of the Ukrainian Security Assistance Initiative,” the U.S. Embassy in Kyiv wrote on Twitter on January 15.
OK, you don’t need to listen to Russian here, just turn the sound off and enjoy the visuals, solemnity and the geopolitical grandeur of this event.
Not sure what the significance is of shots of F-15 in Carolina is.
https://anti-empire.com/ukraine-plots-the-return-of-crimea-after-the-us-provides-it-with-84-inflatable-boats/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Daily+Headlines
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miketheterrible wrote:
A bunch of old Zodiacs and some alu RIBs.
At least the RIBs came with outboard motors, did the Zodiacs come with sets of oars?
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JohninMK wrote:miketheterrible wrote:
A bunch of old Zodiacs and some alu RIBs.
At least the RIBs came with outboard motors, did the Zodiacs come with sets of oars?
They should of replaced those RIBs with actual barbecue ribs, would of been more useful for hungry sailors.
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What are they trying to do man... start an out of control arms race in the Black Sea?
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GarryB wrote:What are they trying to do man... start an out of control arms race in the Black Sea?
Indeed, one of the most destabilizing moves in the field of strategic stability at the level of Poseidon and Avangard
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