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    Post  par far on Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:12 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    par far wrote:....

    The reason that Iran bought from Boeing and Airbus is because there was understanding under the Obama regime, the deals/trade was going to be fair. And the west probably had Iranian money in their banks that Iran had to invest and buy from west(which was likely part of the deal) but that is all gone now.

    "Donnie" can't even drop his dick after an erection without asking the Zionists first, let alone drop the hammer. He is being told by the Zionist Jews what to do and that is why this is happening.

    So wait let me see if I got this right: Obama was crusader against those dastardly Zionists​? He was the righteous one and everything would have been fine for Iran had Obama's candidate won?

    Remember this little thing called the Ukraine that happened during Obama? But it doesn't matter because Iran would have been covered?

    This here is the reason why Russia should not trust Iran even for a second and should drop them first chance they get. Take what you can and watch Mulahs burn.

    When the deal was made with Iran, it was made mostly because of Russia and China(Russia and China said they don't care about west sanctions and they are going to do business with Iran), the US saw a multipolar world and did not have choice, they did not want to do the Iran deal.

    Right now Russia can/is trusting Iran and in the future this realtionship will only get deeper. If Russia drops Iran that is the end of the multipolar world. There is nothing that Russia can take to watch the Mulahs burn because Russia will burn next.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:40 pm

    par far wrote:...........
    When the deal was made with Iran, it was made mostly because of Russia and China(Russia and China said they don't care about west sanctions and they are going to do business with Iran), the US saw a multipolar world and did not have choice, they did not want to do the Iran deal.....

    US didn't see shit, they did their own thing, deal is irrelevant, daily political distraction.

    par far wrote:...........Right now Russia can/is trusting Iran and in the future this realtionship will only get deeper. If Russia drops Iran that is the end of the multipolar world. There is nothing that Russia can take to watch the Mulahs burn because Russia will burn next.

    The ego here is astounding.

    If this multipolar world ever comes into existence Iran will be minor appendage at best. You got China, USA, Russia, EU, India, Japan, etc and you compare Iran with them? Like Chihuahua and Doberman...
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    Post  par far on Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:20 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    par far wrote:...........
    When the deal was made with Iran, it was made mostly because of Russia and China(Russia and China said they don't care about west sanctions and they are going to do business with Iran), the US saw a multipolar world and did not have choice, they did not want to do the Iran deal.....

    US didn't see shit, they did their own thing, deal is irrelevant, daily political distraction.  

    par far wrote:...........Right now Russia can/is trusting Iran and in the future this realtionship will only get deeper. If Russia drops Iran that is the end of the multipolar world. There is nothing that Russia can take to watch the Mulahs burn because Russia will burn next.

    The ego here is astounding.

    If this multipolar world ever comes into existence Iran will be minor appendage at best. You got China, USA, Russia, EU, India, Japan, etc and you compare Iran with them? Like Chihuahua and Doberman...  

    The US did see the multipolar world coming and that is why it made the deal. Russia and China were the main the forces behind it.

    The multipolar world will be led by Russia and China, the US and it's vasal states(EU, India and Japan want a unipolar world.)

    Mulhas are mostly Persians(and they are Shias, you probably don't even know the difference between Sunnis and Shias) and most of them are well educated. Take a look at what is happening in Europe, after seeing that, the Mulhas are 100% better than the Wahhabis.
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    Post  Austin on Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:01 am

    At Eurasia Airshow, Russia signed contracts for seven billion dollars

    https://ria.ru/economy/20180429/1519689079.html


    I think most of the agreement like iran Superject deal is agreement on intent to buy but not firm contract , So this is a potential $7 billion deal
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    Post  GarryB on Tue May 01, 2018 3:51 am

    Like Chihuahua and Doberman...

    Hey... I have seen a Chihuahua kill a Doberman... the Doberman was in a hurry and didn't chew it properly and choked... Wink
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue May 01, 2018 1:01 pm



    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3180687.html?thread=345281679#t345281679

    The Russian government has allocated funds to start work on the creation of the aircraft SSJ75

    The Russian government April 27, 2018 Decree № 786-p ordered to allocate from the reserve fund of the Russian Government budget allocations in the amount of 6 billion rubles for the aircraft family development programs Sukhoi SuperJet 100, including almost 2 billion rubles at the beginning of works on creation of the version SSJ75 with 75 passengers, as well as the implementation of measures for the import substitution of systems and components of the SSJ100 in the RRJ-95 version.


    The resolution reads:

    In order to implement the program for the development of the Sukhoi Superjet 100 family of aircraft (RRJ-95 aircraft), to allocate in 2018 the Ministry of Industry and Trade of Russia from the reserve fund of the Government of the Russian Federation:

    a) budgetary allocations in the amount of 4005 881 thousand rubles for subsidies from the federal budget to manufacturers of aircraft for financial support of costs associated with the formation of a revolving warehouse of spare parts for new types of aircraft, as well as the introduction of service bulletins for new aircraft type, having in mind the formation of a revolving warehouse in the amount of at least 700 components and ensuring the introduction of 64 service bulletins;

    b) budgetary allocations in the amount of 1994119 thousand rubles for the purchase of goods, works and services for the provision of state needs (carrying out research and development work in order to increase reliability, increase the resource, implement measures for import substitution of aircraft systems and components "Dry Superjet 100 "(RRJ-95 aircraft) and the development of its 75-seat modification), bearing in mind:

    - the approval by the competent authorities of the main change in the standard design of the RRJ-95B aircraft (factory numbers 95007 - 95021), Assuming the establishment of an assigned resource of 10,000 flights;

    - receipt of approval by the competent authorities for secondary changes to the standard design of the RRJ-95 aircraft in order to improve the reliability of their systems;

    - obtaining approval by the competent authorities to change the main list of the minimum composition of the RRJ-95 aircraft equipment in order to improve the reliability of the departure;

    - development of a technical proposal for the Sukhoi Superjet 100 aircraft with a capacity of 75 passengers;

    - development of technical specifications for the RRJ-95 aircraft systems subject to import substitution.





    Austin wrote:At Eurasia Airshow, Russia signed contracts for seven billion dollars

    https://ria.ru/economy/20180429/1519689079.html


    I think most of the agreement like iran Superject deal is agreement on intent to buy but not firm contract , So this is a potential $7 billion deal

    Well everybody can is keen of positive PR/marketing, why Russians should be an exception? BTW Iranians with current geopolitical setup have not much choice anyway. I'd say number of planes will increase not decrease Smile
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    Post  Hole on Tue May 01, 2018 4:42 pm

    Just wait a week. If the Trumpster dumps the nuclear deal, all this Airbus and Boeing aircraft will not be delivered.
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    Post  flamming_python on Tue May 01, 2018 5:19 pm

    Hole wrote:Just wait a week. If the Trumpster dumps the nuclear deal, all this Airbus and Boeing aircraft will not be delivered.

    He won't dump it.

    Just angling for better negotiation terms. Just like he didnt attack North Korea, nor attack anything of note in Syria.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Tue May 01, 2018 8:40 pm

    flamming_python wrote:

    He won't dump it.

    After Bardak Obama was elected Tronald Dump? lol1 lol1 lol1
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed May 09, 2018 8:23 pm

    Manturov: Russia negotiates with African countries on shipments of SSJ-100 in the VIP version

    And about. Minister of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov also noted that negotiations are also being conducted with the airlines from Europe, South-East Asia and Latin America

    MOSCOW, May 9. / TASS /. Russia is discussing the supply of Sukhoi Superjet-100 (Sukhoi Superjet-100, SSJ-100) in the VIP version to the countries of Africa. Tass reported this and. about. Minister of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov.

    "We are now quite advanced in the African countries.We have had special presentations for the last six months, and this primarily concerns no longer cars in traditional passenger performance, but in the VIP modification, there is a very large demand for this modification," he said.

    In addition, Manturov noted that the delivery of aircraft is also being negotiated with airlines from Europe, Southeast Asia and Latin America.

    SSJ-100 is the first civil aircraft developed in Russia. Refers to the family of regional vessels, the flight range of the basic version is 4,4 thousand km, the capacity is 98 passengers. Its use began in 2011. Abroad, the SSJ-100 is operated in Mexico and Ireland, the largest operator in Russia is Aeroflot.

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    http://tass.ru/ekonomika/5187202
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    Post  Hole on Wed May 09, 2018 9:28 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    Hole wrote:Just wait a week. If the Trumpster dumps the nuclear deal, all this Airbus and Boeing aircraft will not be delivered.

    He won't dump it.

    Just angling for better negotiation terms. Just like he didnt attack North Korea, nor attack anything of note in Syria.

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    Post  Hole on Wed May 09, 2018 9:29 pm

    It seems Iran will now think strongly about buying the MS-21. Maybe they make even a contract for the new widebody from RUS/CHN.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Wed May 09, 2018 9:34 pm

    Hole wrote:It seems Iran will now think strongly about buying the MS-21. Maybe they make even a contract for the new widebody from RUS/CHN.

    They won't.

    They will just grovel some more before EU/Airbus.
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    Post  KiloGolf on Wed May 09, 2018 9:36 pm

    Hole wrote:It seems Iran will now think strongly about buying the MS-21. Maybe they make even a contract for the new widebody from RUS/CHN.

    They're certified idiots as far as I'm concerned.
    First the Hamadan airbase fiasco and then going all Kardashian and buying Boeing/Airbus.
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    Post  Hole on Wed May 09, 2018 9:40 pm

    They tried to make it harder for Trump to drop the treaty.

    If the west would treat all countries equal, the whole world would be better off.
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    Post  par far on Wed May 09, 2018 10:52 pm

    Hole wrote:It seems Iran will now think strongly about buying the MS-21. Maybe they make even a contract for the new widebody from RUS/CHN.


    Iran will go for the Russian and Chinese passenger planes(and only passenger planes but other deals as well), those deals with Boeing and AirBus was likely done to appease the west.

    The question that remain is will Russia be able to sell their passenger planes because they were using American technology?(I don't know what is going on with.)


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    Post  par far on Wed May 09, 2018 11:01 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    Hole wrote:It seems Iran will now think strongly about buying the MS-21. Maybe they make even a contract for the new widebody from RUS/CHN.

    They're certified idiots as far as I'm concerned.
    First the Hamadan airbase fiasco and then going all Kardashian and buying Boeing/Airbus.


    Do you have any inside information on the "Hamadan airbase fiasco" and what really went on behind the scenes? And for buying the Boeing/Airbus, it was likely part of the nuclear deal, to give something back to the west(which was likely part of the deal) and there was probably Iranian, money in western banks that could only be spent on western companies, you have no side information to be calling them "certified idiots". This was done under the Obama administration and now Trump(who has no control) just canceled it(probably the best thing, now they make new deal with Russia, China and to a lesser extent the EU.)

    There were so many secret deals that were made in the nuclear deal that the public never got to see.
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    Post  flamming_python on Thu May 10, 2018 12:10 am

    Hole wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:
    Hole wrote:Just wait a week. If the Trumpster dumps the nuclear deal, all this Airbus and Boeing aircraft will not be delivered.

    He won't dump it.

    Just angling for better negotiation terms. Just like he didnt attack North Korea, nor attack anything of note in Syria.

    Twisted Evil Wink

    So I was wrong.

    It happens

    ..on rare occasions Twisted Evil
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    Post  PapaDragon on Thu May 10, 2018 12:29 am

    Hole wrote:It seems Iran will now think strongly about buying the MS-21. Maybe they make even a contract for the new widebody from RUS/CHN.

    Wait, wait, I completely misread this. There was nothing stopping Iran from ordering as many MS-21s as they liked, sanctions problems were with SSJ-100.

    Wow, and people wonder why Russia gives zero shits about Iran...
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    Post  KiloGolf on Thu May 10, 2018 12:35 am

    PapaDragon wrote:Wow, and people wonder why Russia gives zero shits about Iran...

    There's also this. A huge chunk of Iran's political (or better theocratic) establishment is batsh1t retarded.

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Thu May 10, 2018 12:48 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Hole wrote:It seems Iran will now think strongly about buying the MS-21. Maybe they make even a contract for the new widebody from RUS/CHN.

    Wait, wait, I completely misread this. There was nothing stopping Iran from ordering as many MS-21s as they liked, sanctions problems were with SSJ-100.

    Wow, and people wonder why Russia gives zero shits about Iran...

    Well they did't have 30 billions or so in Russian banks due to sanctions so they didnt order. Not sure why you are so hard to get there. Irandoesent have money. All money in west are virtual. And can be spent eventually only on western products or stolen.


    As for SSJ. Those SSJ proposed to Iran are without US technology/products. Iran has no choice now but to go to Russia and China.
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    Post  par far on Thu May 10, 2018 2:05 am

    KiloGolf wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:Wow, and people wonder why Russia gives zero shits about Iran...

    There's also this. A huge chunk of Iran's political (or better theocratic) establishment is batsh1t retarded.



    There are idiots in every government, this makes the world not take Iran seriously, the US pulling out of the deal maybe a blessing in disguise for Iran. If I was the president of Iran, I would do things differently.
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    Post  Hole on Thu May 10, 2018 11:36 am

    This is parlament. Not government.

    If Iran will now buy russian planes (more SSJ 100, new MS-21), that would freak out the morons in Amiland. All "Democrats" screaming: "See, Trump is a russian agent! He left the treaty with Iran and Russia is benefitting!"

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Fri May 11, 2018 1:29 am

    Hole wrote:
    If Iran will now buy russian planes (more SSJ 100, new MS-21), that would freak out the morons in Amiland. All "Democrats" screaming: "See, Trump is a russian agent! He left the treaty with Iran and Russia is benefitting!"


    IMHO the more US is getting aggressive and put more sanctions it paradoxically better for Russia (and I'd say even Germany Smile - the stronger action the stronger reaction. US hopefully reaches not its Teutoburg Forest. US is stronger (economy+military+propaganda machine) then any of states on earthe. But much eaker than many possible group or resistance. First big loss will only speed up its decline.
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    Post  GarryB on Fri May 11, 2018 4:53 am

    If Iran will now buy russian planes (more SSJ 100, new MS-21), that would freak out the morons in Amiland. All "Democrats" screaming: "See, Trump is a russian agent! He left the treaty with Iran and Russia is benefitting!"

    If our French Nazi friend is right and this was to create a situation where the oil prices go up to make US Fracking viable then perhaps he is a Russian agent, because higher oil prices is good for Russia too... their dropping Military spending makes sense but in real terms an increase in oil prices means they can spend a lot more on everything paid for buy car owners and oil and gas users...

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