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    Post  Austin Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:02 pm

    The running time of SaM146 engines of Sukhoi Superjet 100 airliners is approaching 850 thousand flight hours

    http://www.uecrus.com/rus/presscenter/odk_news/?ELEMENT_ID=2845


    The total operating time of operating SaM146 powerplants lifting Sukhoi Superjet 100 (SSJ100) airliners into the sky exceeded 830,000 flight hours.

    The SaM146 is an integrated power plant that includes an engine and a nacelle with a reversible device. The engine is produced by the Rybinsk PJSC "ODK-Saturn" (part of the United Engine Corporation of Rostekh) under the conditions of equal partnership with Safran Aircraft Engines (France). Deliveries of SaM146 and all after-sales services are provided by PowerJet (a joint venture based on the principles of equal partnership Safran Aircraft Engines and UDK-Saturn). The Russian DCC-Saturn is responsible for the design and manufacture of low pressure fan and compressor, low pressure turbine, general engine assembly and testing, Safran Aircraft Engines for high pressure compressor, combustion chamber, high pressure turbine, unit box, ACS and power plant integration .

    The total operating time of the SaM146 power plants in operation in March 2018 exceeded 830,000 flight hours. The maximum operating time is fixed for engines operating in difficult climatic conditions: in hours - on the engine, the airline "Yakutia" (more than 8,800 flight hours), in cycles - on the engine of the Mexican airline Interjet (over 6,700 flight cycles). As of March 2018, 310 serial engines were shipped from the UDK-Saturn. Meanwhile, the past year of 2017 was a record-breaking one - customers received 76 SaM146 engines.

    The SaM146 engine is certified according to EASA and AR MAC standards and since 2011 is in commercial operation as part of the SSJ100 aircraft. The main operators of the SSJ100 aircraft with SaM146 engines are the Aeroflot airline and the Mexican airline InterJet. A major customer is the leasing company GTLK, which supplies the SSJ100 aircraft with operational leasing to the Russian airlines Yamal, Iraaro, Yakutia, Azimut. In 2016, the delivery of SSJ100 aircraft to the first European customer, CityJet, began. Total aircraft SSJ100 with engines SaM146 are operated by 15 operators.

    In April 2012, ODK-Saturn received the EASA production approval certificate, a year ago a similar certificate was received from the IAC AR. In March 2014, the company received an EASA certificate for the right to maintain and repair the SaM146 engine. Thus, DCC-Saturn is the first company in the country with a full range of competencies certified in Russia and in Europe for the development, serial production, maintenance and repair of civil aircraft engines

    The engine SaM146, created on the basis of a combination of experience and new technologies of Russian and Western engines, fully meets modern environmental requirements. The optimized degree of double circuit and reduced speed of the fan made it possible to significantly reduce the noise from the running engine and provide a margin in relation to the ICAO standards. Chapter IV. The combustion chamber is designed in such a way that it guarantees a low level of polluting emissions, ensuring compliance with CAEP8 standards.

    The reliability of the departure according to the schedule for the engine is 99.9%. This is achieved, including through the special design of the fan blades, the front cone, and the entire flow section. In addition, this design provides a high degree of protection and resistance to foreign objects. In general, the performance of the SaM146 is at a level higher than the average for this class of engines.

    Within the framework of the customer support system that meets the world requirements, two distribution centers for spare parts have been set up and are functioning - in the Lytkarino suburbs and in Vilarosh (France). Such localization of warehouses allows delivering parts within a day to virtually anywhere in the world. There are two training centers for the training of airline technical personnel. A 24-hour customer support center, a Web portal, was created. Also, both parent companies are certified for the requirements of Russian and European aviation authorities for the maintenance and repair of engines in order to be able to provide appropriate services to operators. To support airlines, pools of spare engines and spare parts have also been created.

    The twin-turbo twin-turbojet engine SaM146 is made in a design scheme with a single-stage fan, a three-stage low-pressure compressor, a six-stage high-pressure compressor, an annular combustion chamber, a single-stage high-pressure turbine and a three-stage low-pressure turbine. The engine management system is digital, with full responsibility (type FADEC). The SaM146 has a wide range of thrust control.

    The power plant SaM146 is presented at the stand of the ODK within the framework of the International Forum of Engine Building (MFD-2018) held at VDNH in Moscow from April 4 to 6.
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    Post  Austin Fri Apr 06, 2018 6:32 am

    This is good development , I think they can use the same engine for the new TVS-2DTS:

    Development of a VK-800S turboprop engine for installation on L-410 aircraft

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3149184.html

    Start mass production of VK-800S engines at UZGA intend immediately after passing the certification. According to Melekhin, there is already an order for two L-410UVP-E20 aircraft with new Russian-made engines from the Ministry of Industry and Trade.

    Earlier at UZGA, where the assembly of Czech regional L-410 aircraft was localized, it was said that in future the level of localization of production of these aircraft should be higher than 50%, in particular, due to the replacement of engines and airborne equipment. Now in Russia, the L-410UVP-E20 aircraft with the M601 and H80 engines of GE Aviation Czech (the former Czech motor company Walter, purchased in 2008 by the American company GE Aviation, a division of the corporation General Electric) are operated.

    The VK-800S engine is a turboprop modification of the VK-800V helicopter turbo-engine, developed by "ODK-Klimov" (part of the United Engine-Building Corporation). The executive director of the enterprise, Alexander Vatagin, told journalists that he makes design documentation for the aircraft engine version of "ODK-Klimov". VK-800S is intended for multipurpose aircraft with the carrying capacity of 1000-1500 kg.
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    Post  GarryB Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:16 am

    VC-800S is designed for multi-purpose aircraft with a payload of 1000-1500 kg.

    From the article I would say it was too underpowered... the new aircraft is a 3.5 ton payload aircraft that has a MTOW of about 7 tons or so.
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    Post  Austin Sat Apr 07, 2018 4:11 pm

    I guess you are right the L-410UVP-E20 can be powered by VK-800S engine but TVS-2DTS will need higher power.

    I cannot find the exact power rating for VK-800S , Klimov website has specs for VK-800V and not S

    http://www.klimov.ru/en/production/helicopter/VK-800V/
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    Post  Guest Sun Apr 08, 2018 3:14 am

    Austin wrote:I guess you are right the L-410UVP-E20 can be powered by VK-800S engine but TVS-2DTS will need higher power.

    I cannot find the exact power rating for VK-800S , Klimov website has specs for VK-800V and not S

    http://www.klimov.ru/en/production/helicopter/VK-800V/

    There was photo from some equipment fair stating 580kW for S variant if i recal right. Now at what altitude and is it measured on shaft i would not know.
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    Post  miketheterrible Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:28 am

    The contract for the supply of 200 aircraft FA-2ДТС

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/105840/

    The signing of a contract to supply 200 aircraft FA-2ДТС for regional transportation had been long expected. In March, the aircraft was presented to the company "Polar airlines" at the airport in Magan near Yakutsk. And now Ulan-Ude aviation plant (U-UAZ) — a prospective manufacturer of an all-composite light aircraft FA-2ДТС signed a long term contract with the airline "Polar airlines" for the supply of 200 TVs-2ДТС. It is reported by the holding company "Helicopters of Russia", which includes U-UAZ.

    Delivery of the first new "Maize" operator expected in 2021 Total supply of all the 200 cars to be held from 2021 to 2025.

    The production of machines must be started at Ulan-Ude aviation plant by 2019

    Aircraft in the airline "Polar airlines" will fly on regional routes in Yakutia — TVs-2ДТС will perform flights on local routes of the Republic of Sakha (Yakutia), which includes more than 120 landing sites and heliports and 32 airports. Later, the transport network can be extended to the Baikal region, North-East Siberia and the far East.

    Aircraft FA-2ДТС is a deep modernization of the An-2 aircraft. In contrast to the An-2 new car has an all-composite construction of CFRP and an entirely new cockpit. "Corncob", due to the use of modern avionics can now be operated at any time of the day.

    The car was first shown at the MAKS air show in 2017. The developer of the aircraft is SibNIA (Siberian research Institute of aviation them. S. A. Chaplygin). There was built the first prototype of this machine. But mass production of the aircraft is planned to expand capacities of "Ulan-Ude aviation plant" (UUAP), part of the holding "Helicopters of Russia".
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    Post  Austin Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:02 pm

    Czech aircraft L-410 will receive a Russian engine in 2021

    https://vpk.name/news/213225_cheshskii_samolet_l410_poluchit_rossiiskii_dvigatel_v_2021_godu.html

    The first prototype of the VK-800S engine for the L-410 aircraft was presented by the Ural Civil Aviation Plant (UZGA) at the International Engine Building Forum, which was held on April 4-6, 2018 in Moscow at VDNKh. Now bench tests are being carried out, and in 2021 the plant plans to start serial production of new engines, Mil.Press told Military at the enterprise.

    The VK-800S engine is designed for use in the power unit of single-engine and twin-engine aircraft of small and regional aviation. The main carrier will be the aircraft L-410, the production of which is partially localized at UZGA.

    "According to the characteristics of the VK-800C, it exceeds the current engines, which are installed on the L-410. It is being developed, first of all, for new modifications of the aircraft, which require the engine to have more power," the UZGA noted

    The new engine is being developed as part of the import substitution program commissioned by the Ministry of Industry and Trade and will be entirely Russian. It is based on the helicopter engine VK-800 developed by "ODK-Klimov." The Petersburg enterprise also participates in the project. Engineers "Klimov" develop design documentation. The company noted that the aircraft version of the VK-800 was significantly changed in comparison with the helicopter prototype.

    "Today, small engines use the M601F and H80-200 engines from Walter and General Electric, and compared to them, the VK-800C has a number of advantages: it is lighter, more economical, more compact, with a large overhaul life, and can be used both with a domestic screw AV-410, and with foreign AV-725. And all this against a background of lower cost, "- added to UZGA.

    VK-800S is designed for operation in all climatic conditions, including cold and tropical areas. It will be protected from the effects of sea fog and water.


    The plant also noted that the development of the engine takes into account all international and Russian requirements and applies modern technology, which allows to significantly shorten the terms of the project.

    The draft design of the engine was first presented in August 2017. Now the engine is being tested on the stand. Until the end of 2018, it is planned to complete resource tests. Flight tests should end in 2019. Serial production is expected from 2021.

    In UZGA note that the remotorization of the constructed aircraft is not expected, there is no need. Development of a separate military version of the engine is not provided.

    Assembling L-410 at UZGA was launched in 2016. The aircraft is produced for civil air carriers. Specialists of the Urals plant perform the node assembly and adapt the aircraft to Russian operating conditions.

    L-410 uses, including the Russian Defense Ministry. Aircraft are capable of performing reconnaissance, sanitary or amphibious tasks. They are also in demand for the training of pilots of military transport aviation.
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    Post  Austin Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:04 pm

    The aircraft engine PD-35 is optimized at the design stage to reduce the cost of the life cycle

    https://vpk.name/news/213224_aviadvigatel_pd35_optimiziruyut_na_etape_proektirovaniya_dlya_snizheniya_stoimosti_zhiznennogo_cikla.html

    When working on a project of a prospective turbojet engine of super-large traction PD-35, developers will pay special attention to reducing the cost of the life cycle. The package of measures assumes minimization of costs in the design, manufacture and operation of the power plant. This will increase the competitiveness of Russian development, Mil.Press Military reported in "ODK-Aviadvigatel."

    "We are faced with the task of creating not just an efficient high-quality engine with specified parameters.In the initial stage, we have to optimize the power plant in terms of the cost of its life cycle." In the domestic industry, there were no such precedents, "said the deputy head of the Automated Systems Engineering Department management of JSC "ODK-Aviadvigatel" Igor Gribkov.

    According to the expert, the technical reserve for the achievement of the goal has already been created. In particular, a number of technical solutions were worked out when creating a PD-14 engine for the passenger MS-21. We are talking about new materials, methods of their production, new approaches to design.

    "In order to keep the engine competitive at the time of the start of operation, we will have to learn the technologies of tomorrow." There is already an understanding of what we have to do and outline the range of critical technologies, but we are at the very beginning of the road, "Igor Gribkov said.

    In the work on the new power plant will find a wider application of methods of model-oriented design, composite materials, topological optimization of the parts and their production using additive technologies.

    According to Sergei Ostapenko, managing director and chief designer of the "ODK-STAR" company, the work on only the automatic engine management system will require the introduction of a dozen critical technologies.

    "The automatic control system will require the development of new algorithms, the introduction of adaptive control, the use of mathematical models for management," Igor Gribkov added.

    The specialist noted that power plants in this class of capacity have already been created abroad. At the same time, the world's leading manufacturers pay attention to lowering the cost of the engine life cycle.

    According to the website of state procurement, a contract for the performance of research and development work on a PD-35 engine worth 64.3 billion rubles was made from the "UDC-Aviadvigatel" in early 2018. By the end of the year, the company is to develop a technical specification for the engine-demonstrator of technology, and until December 2023 fully assemble and test it.

    According to Yury Shmotin, General Designer of the ODK, the experimental design work for the PD-35 aircraft engine will be completed by 2026, after which mass production will begin.

    The PD-35 engine is planned to be used in the project CR 929, a Russian-Chinese wide-body long-haul passenger aircraft. The power plant will make it possible to avoid the four-engine scheme on the Il-76, Il-78 and Il-96 family aircraft, and will also become the base for the long-range military transport aviation complex (PAC TA).
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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:33 pm


    TVS-2DTS confirmed to have range of 3000km

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/106325/

    For the record: original An-2 had range of 845km so yeah, pretty sweet upgrade thumbsup

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    Post  TheArmenian Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:07 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    TVS-2DTS confirmed to have range of 3000km

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/106325/

    For the record: original An-2 had range of 845km so yeah, pretty sweet upgrade  thumbsup

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    Great.
    So, this thing can fly from South Russia to Hmeyim non-stop with fuel to spare.
    Can it take barrel-bombs?
    Laughing
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    Post  Austin Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:58 am

    Iran Superjet SSJ-100R will have 60 % Russian component and mostly removing US components , 20 to be sold to Iran MOU Signed.


    "Import-substituted" Sukhoi Superjet 100R is scheduled for delivery to Iran

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3173223.html




    Hope they can still reduce import content and increase Russian one to 80-90 % , Good Opportunity for Russian MSE/SME to be part of SSJ supply chain
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    Post  Austin Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:59 am

    Good info on SSJ 75

    Superjet in black

    https://vpk.name/news/213694_superjet_v_chernom.html?new#new
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    Post  ATLASCUB Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:10 pm

    When Russians can't even sell their own planes cause even those are subject to sanctions.

    Yo Papa where you at...

    Iran will receive the new SSJ100R version of the airliner by 2022, according to Rubtsov. Initially, both parties considered a deal for 100 aircraft, but they required approval from the US Office of Foreign Assets Control since the Superjet has US-made components. Sukhoi has reduced the proportion of such components to less than 10 percent, which means no US approval is now required.

    https://www.rt.com/business/425185-sukhoi-airplanes-iran-purchase/
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:22 pm

    ATLASCUB wrote:When Russians can't even sell their own planes cause even those are subject to sanctions.

    Yo Papa where you at...
    ..............

    Replace foreign stuff and hit the market, it's pretty straightforward


    And Iran is not buying SSJ because they suddenly became smart, they are doing it because their preferred suppliers have dropped them like a bad habit:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/dominicdudley/2018/04/26/iran-buys-russian-sukhoi-passenger-jets/#33b4003d239b

    ....Iranian airlines have placed orders for several hundred new planes since most international sanctions on the country were lifted in early 2016. The most active buyer has been Iran Air, which has ordered 118 planes from Airbus, 80 from Boeing and 20 from European turboprop maker ATR. In April last year, Aseman has also ordered 30 Boeing 737 Max jets.

    Together these deals represent several tens of billions of dollars’ worth of aircraft. However, relatively few have been delivered, with just a handful of Airbus and ATR planes arriving in Iran to date and no Boeing planes....
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    Post  ATLASCUB Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:04 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    ATLASCUB wrote:When Russians can't even sell their own planes cause even those are subject to sanctions.

    Yo Papa where you at...
    ..............

    Replace foreign stuff and hit the market, it's pretty straightforward


    And Iran is not buying SSJ because they suddenly became smart, they are doing it because their preferred suppliers have dropped them like a bad habit:

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/dominicdudley/2018/04/26/iran-buys-russian-sukhoi-passenger-jets/#33b4003d239b

    ....Iranian airlines have placed orders for several hundred new planes since most international sanctions on the country were lifted in early 2016. The most active buyer has been Iran Air, which has ordered 118 planes from Airbus, 80 from Boeing and 20 from European turboprop maker ATR. In April last year, Aseman has also ordered 30 Boeing 737 Max jets.

    Together these deals represent several tens of billions of dollars’ worth of aircraft. However, relatively few have been delivered, with just a handful of Airbus and ATR planes arriving in Iran to date and no Boeing planes....

    Did you read your own article? Not surprising you would double down but be real if you're really gonna engage in a serious discussion.

    You think Iranian airliners with old junk had the luxury of waiting for the MC-21.... all in due time.
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    Post  par far Fri Apr 27, 2018 4:45 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    ATLASCUB wrote:When Russians can't even sell their own planes cause even those are subject to sanctions.

    Yo Papa where you at...
    ..............

    Replace foreign stuff and hit the market, it's pretty straightforward


    And Iran is not buying SSJ because they suddenly became smart, they are doing it because their preferred suppliers have dropped them like a bad habit:


    https://www.forbes.com/sites/dominicdudley/2018/04/26/iran-buys-russian-sukhoi-passenger-jets/#33b4003d239b

    ....Iranian airlines have placed orders for several hundred new planes since most international sanctions on the country were lifted in early 2016. The most active buyer has been Iran Air, which has ordered 118 planes from Airbus, 80 from Boeing and 20 from European turboprop maker ATR. In April last year, Aseman has also ordered 30 Boeing 737 Max jets.

    Together these deals represent several tens of billions of dollars’ worth of aircraft. However, relatively few have been delivered, with just a handful of Airbus and ATR planes arriving in Iran to date and no Boeing planes....

    It was only a matter of time you bought your anti Iranian basis into this. Boeing and Airbus are not dropping Iran because they want to, they are doing it because the Zionists are forcing them.

    This is good news for Russia, there will be some trouble with parts because they are foreign but when Russia replaces them, than it should be fine.
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Apr 27, 2018 5:31 pm

    ATLASCUB wrote:......
    Did you read your own article? Not surprising you would double down but be real if you're really gonna engage in a serious discussion.

    You think Iranian airliners with old junk had the luxury of waiting for the MC-21.... all in due time.

    By the time they actually get Boeings MS-21 will already hit the market. Nothing stopped Iran from at least putting down preliminary order for several planes.

    And if Iran is operating such old junk and are so desperate for replacement then there was always Tu-204.

    But no, it had to be airliners made by "great Satan". Pathetic.

    par far wrote:......
    It was only a matter of time you bought your anti Iranian basis into this. Boeing and Airbus are not dropping Iran because they want to, they are doing it because the Zionists are forcing them....

    Ah yes, those elusive Zionists, every time there is a fuckup we can blame them. Because they mind-controled Iranians into ordering from Airbus and Boeing 2 seconds​ after sanctions were lifted.

    Is this adult version of "dog ate my homework"?

    At least when Donnie drops the hammer on Tehran they will have no other option then to buy from Russia so let's hope that Pompeo and Bolton do their​ part of lobbying for UAC soon.
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Apr 27, 2018 10:27 pm


    S7 Group Agrees To Launch SSJ75 with LOI for up to 100 Jets

    The Sukhoi Civil Aircraft company may provide up to 40 SSJ-100 for the Defense Ministry

    https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/air-transport/2018-04-27/s7-group-agrees-launch-ssj75-loi-100-jets




    SSJ-100, MC-21 airplanes may be united under single brand

    http://tass.com/economy/1001796
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:15 pm


    Looks like somebody has been listening to my wise guidance thumbsup

    TVS2-DTS aircraft will be renamed to Baikal

    https://vz.ru/news/2018/4/28/920343.html
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    Post  GarryB Sun Apr 29, 2018 2:10 am

    Much easier to remember and talk about... as the only alternative was to call it the upgraded An-2 and who wants to raise that undead and keep it alive?
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Apr 29, 2018 2:16 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    At least when Donnie drops the hammer on Tehran they will have no other option then to buy from Russia so let's hope that Pompeo and Bolton do their​ part of lobbying for UAC soon.

    you have forgot about two issues:

    1) Iran actually didn't have those money. They could buy something in US or EU but IMHO nobody was to return them  to Iranian bank.
    2) Russia didn't make any long haul and wide body aircraft. This was bulk of Iranian shopping list, isnt it?


    It looks that now MS-21 will have to remain their longest range passenger jets unless Il-96 will be available before CR929



    PapaDragon wrote:
    Looks like somebody has been listening to my wise guidance thumbsup

    I am sure both MoDs and ministry of industry are 9-17 obliged to check what us, experts say Razz Razz Razz




    GarryB wrote:Much easier to remember and talk about... as the only alternative was to call it the upgraded An-2 and who wants to raise that undead and keep it alive?

    Rob Zombie lol1 lol1 lol1


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    Post  par far Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:49 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    ATLASCUB wrote:......
    Did you read your own article? Not surprising you would double down but be real if you're really gonna engage in a serious discussion.

    You think Iranian airliners with old junk had the luxury of waiting for the MC-21.... all in due time.

    By the time they actually get Boeings MS-21 will already hit the market. Nothing stopped Iran from at least putting down preliminary order for several planes.

    And if Iran is operating such old junk and are so desperate for replacement then there was always Tu-204.

    But no, it had to be airliners made by "great Satan". Pathetic.

    par far wrote:......
    It was only a matter of time you bought your anti Iranian basis into this. Boeing and Airbus are not dropping Iran because they want to, they are doing it because the Zionists are forcing them....

    Ah yes, those elusive Zionists, every time there is a fuckup we can blame them. Because they mind-controled Iranians into ordering from Airbus and Boeing 2 seconds​ after sanctions were lifted.

    Is this adult version of "dog ate my homework"?

    At least when Donnie drops the hammer on Tehran they will have no other option then to buy from Russia so let's hope that Pompeo and Bolton do their​ part of lobbying for UAC soon.

    The reason that Iran bought from Boeing and Airbus is because there was understanding under the Obama regime, the deals/trade was going to be fair. And the west probably had Iranian money in their banks that Iran had to invest and buy from west(which was likely part of the deal) but that is all gone now.

    "Donnie" can't even drop his dick after an erection without asking the Zionists first, let alone drop the hammer. He is being told by the Zionist Jews what to do and that is why this is happening.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Apr 29, 2018 2:57 pm

    par far wrote:....

    The reason that Iran bought from Boeing and Airbus is because there was understanding under the Obama regime, the deals/trade was going to be fair. And the west probably had Iranian money in their banks that Iran had to invest and buy from west(which was likely part of the deal) but that is all gone now.

    "Donnie" can't even drop his dick after an erection without asking the Zionists first, let alone drop the hammer. He is being told by the Zionist Jews what to do and that is why this is happening.

    So wait let me see if I got this right: Obama was crusader against those dastardly Zionists​? He was the righteous one and everything would have been fine for Iran had Obama's candidate won?

    Remember this little thing called the Ukraine that happened during Obama? But it doesn't matter because Iran would have been covered?

    This here is the reason why Russia should not trust Iran even for a second and should drop them first chance they get. Take what you can and watch Mulahs burn.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Apr 29, 2018 8:37 pm


    Severstal corporation ordered 6 SSJ-100s

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/106585/

    Also, it looks like Mongolians might also buy a couple of SuperJets
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Apr 29, 2018 8:45 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Severstal corporation ordered 6 SSJ-100s

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/106585/

    Also, it looks like Mongolians might also buy a couple of SuperJets

    not bad at all. The quicker they will be localized the better for export.

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