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    Post  Austin Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:52 pm

    MiG-21s, MC-21s and the overrated Typhoon: In conversation with FlightGlobal’s Stephen Trimble

    https://hushkit.net/2017/03/24/mig-21s-mc-21s-and-the-overrated-typhoon-in-conversation-with-flightglobals-stephen-trimble/
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    Post  Austin Sun Mar 26, 2017 7:32 pm

    Big structural parts machined faster , Czech aircraft manufacturer Aircraft Industries reduces machining time more than 50% with Handtmann HBZ AeroCell 700/200.

    http://www.aerospacemanufacturinganddesign.com/article/handtmann-aerocell-czech-aircraft-industries-122116/
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    Post  flamming_python Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:15 am

    Nothing on the Ka-62 in that helicopter presentation.
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    Post  Austin Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:42 pm

    flamming_python wrote:Nothing on the Ka-62 in that helicopter presentation.

    Good Point , Even I am looking for an update on Ka-62 program may be MAKS would be a good time for it
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    Post  Austin Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:45 pm

    Il-114-300 Aircraft is to Have Key Capabilities Necessary for a Regional Aircraft

    http://ilyushin.org/en/press/news/ev6243/

    Ilyushin Aviation Complex, which forms part of the United Aircraft Corporation (UAC), participated in the working process of the Sixth International Conference and Exhibition «Regional Aviation of Russia and the CIS – 2016». The report on the Il-144 program implementation, presented by the chief designer of Il OJSC Nikolai Talikov, was of particular interest to the audience.

    “Il-114-300 turbo-prop passenger aircraft will have key capabilities which are necessary for a Russia-made aerial vehicle designed for regional and local air transportation», Nikolai Talikov pointed out.

    Il-114-300 will be an energy-efficient aircraft. Modern scientific and technological achievements aimed at securing the required levels of aerodynamic cleanness and weight efficiency of an aircraft and a power unit will ensure a high rate of fuel efficiency of the aircraft. The specific fuel consumption is to be kept within 550-580 g/km; the flight range with the maximum number of passengers will amount to 1900 km. While a lot flights to the neighbouring regions still have to be carried out via Moscow, Il-114-300 will deal with this problem, allowing the passengers to save more time and money.

    Il-114-300 will be a comfortable aircraft. The experience of operating Il-114 shows that the aircraft is low-noise both outside and inside. During the flight, the passengers can calmly, without raising their voices, speak to their neighbours. In accordance with the demands of our time, the passenger cabin design is to be changed. Being subject to modernization, it will become up-to-date, yet maintaining its current comfort, and will allow using the internal space onboard the aircraft in the best possible way.

    Il-114-300 will be a safe aircraft.
    The systems configuration is implemented in such a way so that to exclude the influence of failures on the operation of the remaining systems. They possess the necessary redundancy level, and well-proven materials are used in their design.

    For the purposes of successful fulfillment of pilot duties and in order to reduce the aircrew’s workload, the aircraft is equipped with a new version of a digital flight and navigational complex, which ensures a take-off and a landing under the meteorological conditions corresponding to category II of the International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO). All flight and navigational data and information on the aircraft systems operation are shown on five colour LCDs.

    Il-114-300 will be a low-maintenance aircraft.
    It can operate on unprepared airfields with both concrete and ground surface with the soil density amounting to 7.5 kg/cm2. That is particularly important for the regions of this country, including the arctic ones.

    Moreover, the aircraft is designed for autonomous operation in underequipped airports. Il-114-300 has integral air stairs allowing the passengers to enter and to exit. There is also an immediate and easy access to all the aircraft components and devices which are to be easily approachable as per the maintenance program.

    Il-114-300 will be a maintenance-friendly aircraft.
    For Il-114-300 aircraft, they adopted a method of operation as per the technical state without overhauling, which allows maintaining the required level of airworthiness at minimum maintenance costs within the limits of the design service life amounting to 30,000 flight hours, or 30,000 flights, and the operational endurance amounting to 30 years.

    Now, Il OJSC is developing a system of after-sale service and aircrew training as an important part of the Il-114-300 sales policy.

    In the beginning, the period of prompt delivery of spare parts will amount to no more than 72 hours from the moment of order. Later on, these terms will be reduced.

    For the purposes of pilot training there are a full-sized simulator cockpit with an imaging direct projection system (viewing angles 60x180 degrees) and a computer classroom providing automated training and performance monitoring of flight and technical personnel during individual and group sessions.

    Il-114-300 will be a fully home-made aircraft.
    All the components will be manufactured at Russian enterprises.

    Il-114-300 is a universal platform that allows making aircraft of various application on its basis, namely air-freighters, multi-purpose passenger-and-freight aircraft, special aviation aircraft (patrol, medical, flying command post, aerial survey, etc), aircraft with ski-and-wheel systems.

    The development of Il-114-300 as transport platform is confirmed by the experience of real operation of the freight version of Il-114T and Il-114LL flying test-bed, which is the prototype of patrol aircraft of various application.

    Nikolai Talikov finished his report with the words: “We are absolutely sure that Il-114-300 will be a huge success».

    The conference «Regional Aviation of Russia and the CIS – 2016» is an annual sectoral event, most important in Russia and the CIS, during which key issues of development of regional and local aviation are discussed at the State and business levels. The conference hosts up to 300 managers and leading experts in the aviation field on an annual basis.
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    Post  Austin Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:16 pm

    An-148/158 Family

    http://www.pakukrainecentre.com/trade%20files/AN-148-158%20Family%2012-2013_%20Eng.pdf
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    Post  flamming_python Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:21 pm

    Austin wrote:An-148/158 Family

    http://www.pakukrainecentre.com/trade%20files/AN-148-158%20Family%2012-2013_%20Eng.pdf

    Get that treacherous aircraft outta here Twisted Evil
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    Post  JohninMK Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:24 pm

    06 April, 2017 SOURCE: Flightglobal Pro London

    Russian airframer Irkut is reportedly having to strengthen the wing of its MC-21-300 after it apparently started failing before reaching ultimate load limits.

    The test was conducted at the Central Aerohydrodynamic Institute in Moscow.

    Russian newspaper Izvestia, citing a source familiar with the testing, states that cracks emerged at close to the ultimate load, which is 150% of the maximum expected operational load.

    Irkut has not responded to FlightGlobal inquiries about the test, and the institute has declined initial requests for further details.

    The newspaper reports, however, that while the composite wing will need strengthening, it will not hold up the schedule for the MC-21's maiden flight, as it has sufficient margin.

    It states that the reinforcements will add 25kg to the wing's weight. No date has been fixed for the first flight of the aircraft.
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    Post  kvs Fri Apr 07, 2017 3:31 am

    JohninMK wrote:     06 April, 2017 SOURCE: Flightglobal Pro London

    Russian airframer Irkut is reportedly having to strengthen the wing of its MC-21-300 after it apparently started failing before reaching ultimate load limits.

    The test was conducted at the Central Aerohydrodynamic Institute in Moscow.

    Russian newspaper Izvestia, citing a source familiar with the testing, states that cracks emerged at close to the ultimate load, which is 150% of the maximum expected operational load.

    Irkut has not responded to FlightGlobal inquiries about the test, and the institute has declined initial requests for further details.

    The newspaper reports, however, that while the composite wing will need strengthening, it will not hold up the schedule for the MC-21's maiden flight, as it has sufficient margin.

    It states that the reinforcements will add 25kg to the wing's weight. No date has been fixed for the first flight of the aircraft.

    May be true, may be BS. No information about the size of the cracks and what typically happens at 150%. Non-composite wings more than likely
    start to fail close to 150%. If no degree of failure is required then the wing has to be designed to withstand 200%.
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:45 pm

    A bit more for you, seems to be genuine and not seen as a problem.

    07 April, 2017 SOURCE: Flightglobal Pro BY: David Kaminski-Morrow London

    Russian airframer Irkut confirms it will need to strengthen the wing of the MC-21-300 twinjet after it failed a destructive test before reaching ultimate load.

    Irkut tells FlightGlobal that the wing box has been stressed to destruction in line with the test programme. During ultimate-load testing the wing is required to withstand stress forces 50% greater than the limit load – the maximum it could expect to encounter in operational service. But Irkut admits that destruction of the wing occurred under a load "a very few percent" below the threshold required.

    It says the MC-21's wing is the Russian aerospace industry's first experience in creating a high-load composite structure.

    "The decision has been made to implement strengthening of the wing structure in parallel with pre-flight testing of MC-21-300 aircraft systems," the airframer adds. Irkut points out that this will mean modifying the wing without de-mating it from the fuselage. "This approach will enable non-interruption of flight tests," it states. Reinforcement of the wing box will add around 25kg to the weight, confirms Irkut.

    Testing of the "maximally lightweight" wing had been undertaken at the Moscow-based Central Aerohydrodynamic Institute, which declined to provide further details to FlightGlobal.

    Irkut says the wing has "reserves" of strength, proven during the testing, which validate the design and provide sufficient margin to commence flight tests.

    The wing structure for the MC-21 is manufactured by AeroKompozit in Ulyanovsk, which has not commented on the test results.

    While the wing's failure to reach ultimate load is a setback, a similar situation emerged during development of the Airbus A380. The double-deck aircraft's wing fractured before reaching ultimate load in February 2006.

    Irkut rolled out the Pratt & Whitney PW1400G-powered MC-21 at a ceremony in June last year. No date has yet been fixed for its maiden flight. It is designed to replace older types such as the Tupolev Tu-154 and Tu-204, and be capable of transporting 163-211 passengers over a range of up to 6,000km.
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    Post  Austin Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:13 pm

    Ilyushin Il-96-400M Widebody Taking Shape
    by Vladimir Karnozov
    - April 11, 2017, 10:55 AM

    http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/air-transport/2017-04-11/ilyushin-il-96-400m-widebody-taking-shape

    The Ilyushin design house has issued its first official presentation of the Il-96-400M, a four-engine design meant to fulfill Russia’s aspirations to develop a new indigenous widebody as a contingency in the event a planned joint Russian-Chinese program fails to materialize. Ilyushin general designer Nikolai Talikov presented the details during a recent conference of Il-96 operators organized by the Russian civil aviation authority Rosaviatsiya. Plans call for the latest iteration of the widebody quadjet to carry a 90,000-pound payload as far as 4,860 nautical miles. Officials expect the first prototype to fly in 2019 and become factory standard the following year.

    Designed for a maximum takeoff weight of 595,000 pounds, the Il-96-400M incorporates the same fuselage used on the Il-96M/T stretch that won U.S. FAA shadow certification in 1997. It will go into production at United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) plant in Voronezh (VASO), which has so far assembled 103 Il-86s and 30 Il-96s—the only commercially available widebody passenger jets of Russian origin. Three Il-96-300s remain in service with Cubana de Aviacion, and about a dozen with Russian government bodies.

    The Kremlin instructed UAC to boost Il-96 production to guarantee air links between the European part of the country and big cities in Siberia and on the Pacific coasts in case escalation of East-West relations further limit the use of imported jets. The Russian government has approved construction of an initial batch of six to ten quads for government structures as a first step to revive widebody jet production at VASO.

    Talikov said the factory could boost Il-96 production from one to two airframes in recent years to the eight to 10 it used to build during Soviet times. “I believe that, responding to the call to buy Russian having considered the new capabilities of the Il-96-400M, the airlines will place their orders,” he concluded.

    Last year the Russian government allocated 53 billion rubles ($925 million) for the program, of which half will go to a leasing company—IFC or GTLK—that would place newly built airplanes with airlines on operating lease terms. The remaining half will go to the industry, including 10 billion rubles ($175 million) to the Ilyushin design house for modifications to the already certified Il-96 platform.

    Ilyushin won a formal contract for -400M development on December 29 of last year. Officials expect a short flight-test program given that earlier versions had already won a number of certificates, including the 1997 U.S. FAA shadow certification of the Il-96T/M. Talikov told AIN designers have begun a special effort to replace old wiring as a weight-saving measure, promising to cut operating empty weight (OEW) by one to two tons.

    Planning to limit Western content to an absolute minimum, Ilyushin will consider only Perm-based Aviadvigatel engines. The PS-90A1 has won certification and became operational on the stretched freighter, whose maximum takeoff weight exceeds that of the baseline Il-96-300 by some 45,000 pounds. Polet operated four Il-96-400Ts between 2009 and 2013, before going bankrupt. Polet’s operational experience, however, allowed the industry to find and fix teething problems associated with the PS-90A1 and subsequently reach average time between removals of 10,000 flight hours, generally considered a good figure for a Russian engine.

    Since Cubana took deliveries of the last Il-96-300 airliners in 2007, design of a completely reworked interior has begun. Ilyushin has invited completion companies to compete in an associated tender.

    Although designers have settled on a specification, Talikov said the terms aren’t so firm that the winner will not enjoy room for creativity. However, he said the Il-96-400M must come with a central luggage bin, which neither the Il-86 nor Il-96-300 feature because their designers wanted to create “spacious” impression. However, passengers now tend to bring more hand luggage into aircraft cabins, requiring more space than available with the existing left- and right-hand bins.
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    Post  Austin Wed Apr 12, 2017 4:44 pm

    Take Off Mag March Issue has article on MS-21 and SSJ-100

    http://www.en.take-off.ru/index.php/component/content/article/45/431
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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:30 pm


    Another SSJ-100 completed. This is 7th this year. This one flew on 12. April. Last year's 7th flew on 18. June. So 2 months faster than last year, not bad. thumbsup

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/92379/

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    Exclamation

    And now something interesting:

    Institute СибНИА is testing Yak-40 jetliner with composite wings. But at the end of the year they plan to rebuild the whole airplane out of composites. On top of everything they already removed one engine and now it flies with just two newer engine types (Honeywell TFE731).

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    Stock Yak-40 for reference:
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    Post  Guest Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:00 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    And now something interesting:

    Institute СибНИА is testing Yak-40 jetliner with composite wings. But at the end of the year they plan to rebuild the whole airplane out of composites. On top of everything they already removed one engine and now it flies with just two newer engine types (Honeywell TFE731).

    Was twice onboard Yak-40s that belonged to Yugoslavian AF/Serbian in 2009. and 2010. then they got grounded permanently it seems...
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    Post  TheArmenian Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:00 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Another SSJ-100 completed. This is 7th this year. This one flew on 12. April. Last year's 7th flew on 18. June. So 2 months faster than last year, not bad. thumbsup

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/92379/

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    Correction: this is the 8th one this year.

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    08. 95130 12.04.17

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    Post  Austin Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:01 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Another SSJ-100 completed. This is 7th this year. This one flew on 12. April. Last year's 7th flew on 18. June. So 2 months faster than last year, not bad. thumbsup

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/92379/

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    Exclamation

    And now something interesting:

    Institute СибНИА is testing Yak-40 jetliner with composite wings. But at the end of the year they plan to rebuild the whole airplane out of composites. On top of everything they already removed one engine and now it flies with just two newer engine types (Honeywell TFE731).

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    Stock Yak-40 for reference:
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    If they plan to build fuselage and wings of composite then it is better they use an equivalent Russian Engine.

    Whats the point in using US engine in such a new project
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:54 pm



    If they plan to build fuselage and wings of composite then it is better they use an equivalent Russian Engine.

    Whats the point in using US engine in such a new project


    Why would they bother with that so early in the project? Objective is to make composite airplane, not make new engines.

    Once they get that part done finding different engines should not be a problem. Besides, why not use available engine regardless of manufacturer? This is civilian project.
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    Post  Austin Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:57 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:


    If they plan to build fuselage and wings of composite then it is better they use an equivalent Russian Engine.

    Whats the point in using US engine in such a new project


    Why would they bother with that so early in the project? Objective is to make composite airplane, not make new engines.

    Once they get that part done finding different engines should not be a problem. Besides, why not use available engine regardless of manufacturer? This is civilian project.

    Coz Russia can build an engine similar to Honeywell and there is no guarantee that a year from now even Civilian projects might come under sanctions , infact they would should relations sour more.

    Using any US tech today knowing the climate and the long term intention of US government , is tantamount to standing on the rail track to commit sucide , it would just happen when the train passes that way question of time.
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:01 pm

    TheArmenian wrote:
    Correction: this is the 8th one this year.

    01. 9512218.01.17|

    02. 95123 02.02.17

    03. 95124 08.02.17

    04. 95126 03.03.17

    05. 95127 15.03.17

    06. 95128 23.03.17

    07. 9512906.04.17

    08. 95130 12.04.17

    Awesome, so that is just 7 day gap between 7th and 8th. I like these improvements. thumbsup
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:03 pm

    ......

    Coz Russia can build an engine similar to Honeywell and there is no guarantee that a year from now even Civilian projects might come under sanctions , infact they would should relations sour more.

    Using any US tech today knowing the climate and the long term intention of US government , is tantamount to standing on the rail track to commit sucide , it would just happen when the train passes that way question of time.  


    Dramatic much?

    This is small project by one institute. A proof of concept.

    If it works then they can localize engines. What's the rush?
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    Post  Austin Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:07 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    ......

    Coz Russia can build an engine similar to Honeywell and there is no guarantee that a year from now even Civilian projects might come under sanctions , infact they would should relations sour more.

    Using any US tech today knowing the climate and the long term intention of US government , is tantamount to standing on the rail track to commit sucide , it would just happen when the train passes that way question of time.  


    Dramatic much?

    This is small project by one institute. A proof of concept.

    If it works then they can localize engines. What's the rush?

    I hope they do then , If its just scientific project then its fine to use any engine but if they plan to mass produce it they better use Russian engine
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    Post  GarryB Fri Apr 14, 2017 5:15 am

    If they are replacing the wings and the fuselage with composite materials... aren't they just building an new plane?

    I guess the real potential for existing customers is that they will have composite material components they can use to replace original components as they need replacing over time.

    This would reduce weight I guess and save money... but I suspect the existing user would continue to use the engines they were using rather than change to a new engine type.
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Apr 14, 2017 1:25 pm

    GarryB wrote:If they are replacing the wings and the fuselage with composite materials... aren't they just building an new plane?

    I guess the real potential for existing customers is that they will have composite material components they can use to replace original components as they need replacing over time.

    This would reduce weight I guess and save money... but I suspect the existing user would continue to use the engines they were using rather than change to a new engine type.

    They are building a new plane.

    However designing a new airplane from scratch is very long an expensive process.

    Thus way they basically have all the hard work already done and this airplane model is proven to work.

    So they are just taking existing template and are replacing part by part with composites. This massively reduces time from research to finished product.

    Once they verify that composite parts work as expected they just need to redesign the interiors, update avionics and select engines.
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Apr 18, 2017 12:38 pm

    17 April, 2017 SOURCE: Flightglobal Pro BY: David Kaminski-Morrow London

    Russian analysts have conducted windtunnel tests on an overwing-engine aircraft design which is intended to reduce noise.

    The Central Aerohydrodynamic Institute says the short-haul aircraft model features a shallow-swept laminar-flow wing to cut drag.

    It adds that the design includes the "distinguishing" characteristic of engines located above the wing, mounted over the trailing edge, while the model also has a low-set horizontal stabiliser. "This option is governed by a desire to reduce noise from airborne aircraft in the areas next to airports," says the institute. "It also allow for installation of more economical engines, with increased diameter." The institute adds that the overwing mounting also lowers the risk of debris ingestion.


    Overwing jet engines have been previously featured on aircraft designs such as the VFW 614 – which failed to gain success as a short-haul airliner – and more recently the Honda Aircraft HA-420 HondaJet.

    The institute says it has carried out transonic windtunnel tests with an improved model of an original design it had examined in 2015. These improvement include adjustment of the wing geometry to account for the laminar-flow requirements.

    Tests on the design in April have "confirmed the calculated predictions" of researchers, says the institute, stating the "aerodynamic quality" of the aircraft design has improved at airspeeds of M0.78.

    Analysts at the Moscow-based institute are set to explore the acoustic characteristics of the proposed aircraft as well as its structural strength.


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    "B" learned about the plans to create a number of airlines to support the SSJ 100
    https://ria.ru/economy/20170418/1492457006.html

    MOSCOW, 18 Jul — RIA Novosti. The Ministry of industry and trade and the Ministry of transport of Russia offers to create on the basis of Red Wings airlines several airlines to use the SSJ 100 aircraft on domestic regional routes to support the production of these courts, told the newspaper "Kommersant" in the Ministry of industry and trade.

    "The Ministry and the transport Ministry to prepare proposals on measures to support the production of short-haul Sukhoi Superjet 100 through the supply of airline Red Wings to 100 of the planes from 2018 to 2022... Officials propose to create on the basis of Red Wings a few airlines to use up to 100 such vehicles in the domestic inter-regional routes", — the newspaper writes.

    The Ministry of industry and trade "Kommersant" said that the Red Wings plan to use as a base to create airlines for transportation between cities with populations over 200 thousand people (of such cities in Russia, about 100). As suggested by the Ministry, the project could "provide an additional measure to promote the aircraft to the domestic market and to promote mobility of the population".

    A similar initiative is already voiced in the fall of 2016. Then Minister of transport Maxim Sokolov said that the Russian investors are considering a project to create a new airline under the code name "Azimut", which will focus on transport in the South of Russia. According to the Minister, the company's fleet is planned to generate the Sukhoi Superjet 100 aircraft, and it could be in 2017.

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    I hope later on they expand to introduce MS-21 aircrafts and start offering transportation routes to even harder to get places up north as well or secluded areas where the resource sector economies are. Having this kind of company creates an internal competition and will bring a lot of money to the aircraft manufacturers. Not to mention, it could possibly create the conditions for much cheaper air travel domestically and generate revenue through its operation as well. Creates lots of jobs, keeps manufacturing at home, and generates revenue. All in all, a good idea.

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