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    S-300/400 ORBAT. Battalions and Regiments

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    Post  franco Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:45 pm

    My two cents;

    1 - 20th regiment may be the unit in Syria... number unknown
    2 - reminder that planned deployment by the end of 2020 is 28 regiments. That means 4 a year to complete.
    3 - have not seen a S400 regiment arrive complete. They start off with the radars and C3's of the HQ plus 1 battalion of S400. They command original S300 battalions of that regiment for such time until other S400 battalions arrive.
    4 - this makes it difficult to count S400 battalions accurately
    5 - it is possible there are 21 regiments as there was some confusion in the unit numbers back in 2016 if you remember, or there may be a training regiment at Ashuluk.
    6 - it almost appears that the S300V's serving in Air Defense are going back to Ground Forces control. Rather or not the Regimental numbers are transferring also remains to be seen. (Kaliningrad and Sakhalin) Also would not be surprised to see the S300V unit in Birobidzhan revert to it's original 203rd AD brigade name and under Ground Forces control.
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    Post  George1 Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:57 am

    franco wrote:

    By my count at present there are;

    76 SA.400
    160 SA.300PMU
    244 SA.300PS

    Planned procurement to the end of 2020 was 224 SA.400, 152 SA.350 and 40 SA.500.
    Still leaves 148 SA.400's to come and the SA.350 was to start production this year.

    now after 3,5 years we have 328 S-400

    Do we have figures for S-300PMU and S-300PS?
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:16 am

    George1 wrote:
    franco wrote:

    By my count at present there are;

    76 SA.400
    160 SA.300PMU
    244 SA.300PS

    Planned procurement to the end of 2020 was 224 SA.400, 152 SA.350 and 40 SA.500.
    Still leaves 148 SA.400's to come and the SA.350 was to start production this year.

    now after 3,5 years we have 328 S-400

    Do we have figures for S-300PMU and S-300PS?


    As said by ult, the English wiki of Federation MIC is notoriously unreliable (for obvious reasons). For future reference click the Russian language version, and use a machine translator. Also there's 432 launchers:


    ult wrote:

    English wiki is very outdated.

    Use this.
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1-400


    27 / 54 / 432

    Out of those 27, 2 regiments have been delivered ahead of schedule and have yet to be on combat duty.
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    Post  franco Wed Dec 12, 2018 4:42 pm

    I'm a little dubious of that 432 launcher figure as the original planned total to the end of 2021 was only 448.
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    Post  Arrow Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:07 pm

    Is 56 S-400 battalions enough for Russia?
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    Post  franco Wed Dec 12, 2018 5:18 pm

    Arrow wrote:Is 56 S-400 battalions enough for Russia?

    I'm sure they will keep on producing as that total was just the planned number by the end of the 2011-2020 acquisition period.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Wed Dec 12, 2018 6:10 pm

    franco wrote:I'm a little dubious of that 432 launcher figure as the original planned total to the end of 2021 was only 448.

    You have to account for launchers delivered early but not taken on duty. You have to train personnel before you can put people behind the machines, their not autonomous devices.
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    Post  Isos Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:13 pm

    Anyone knows how many older version of s-300 russia has in operation and in stocks ? Earlier than PMU-2 and VM.

    Could they give them to some countries to "infest" them with russian hardware and thus oblige them to have contracts with russia but in a nice way. Countries like Brezil, argentina, bolivia, iraq, angola, egypt, phillipines ...

    1 system for each country.

    Would it be a good move ? They are all financially fucked and trying to get better. Early s-300 are still very good against 4th generation fighters and allow to watch their airspace preety well. Once they get used to them and get a better situation, sell them s400 and mig-35.

    Or maybe include one system as a gift for every contract that is more than 1 billion.
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    Post  rambo54 Sat Dec 15, 2018 2:35 pm

    the 20th RGT of S-400 is 1544th (Vladimirsky Lager) -
    In addition to two S-300PS there are ~16 5P85SM2 and S-400 equipment since at least May 2018!
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    Post  franco Sat Dec 15, 2018 3:45 pm

    rambo54 wrote:the 20th RGT of S-400 is 1544th (Vladimirsky Lager) -
    In addition to two S-300PS there are ~16 5P85SM2 and S-400 equipment since at least May 2018!

    Thanks, makes sense. Did you ever hear of a unit name for the S400 in Syria?
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    Post  GarryB Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:41 pm

    1 system for each country.

    Would it be a good move ? They are all financially fucked and trying to get better. Early s-300 are still very good against 4th generation fighters and allow to watch their airspace preety well. Once they get used to them and get a better situation, sell them s400 and mig-35.

    Or maybe include one system as a gift for every contract that is more than 1 billion.

    One system on its own could easily be overwhelmed... especially if operated by badly trained or unmotivated forces.

    If Syrian experience has shown anything it is that a fully IADS means rather more than the missiles being used, though obviously the better the missiles the more effective the system would be in blunting any attack.
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    Post  Isos Sun Dec 16, 2018 1:57 am

    GarryB wrote:
    1 system for each country.

    Would it be a good move ? They are all financially fucked and trying to get better. Early s-300 are still very good against 4th generation fighters and allow to watch their airspace preety well. Once they get used to them and get a better situation, sell them s400 and mig-35.

    Or maybe include one system as a gift for every contract that is more than 1 billion.

    One system on its own could easily be overwhelmed... especially if operated by badly trained or unmotivated forces.

    If Syrian experience has shown anything it is that a fully IADS means rather more than the missiles being used, though obviously the better the missiles the more effective the system would be in blunting any attack.

    Well they would have access to a very good radar for peace time.

    The idea is more about giving and training foreign crew so they get used to russian hardware and buy new ones. No military consideration, just business.

    Replacing then in 10 years those s-300 by russian system is easier and cheaper than with other systems.
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    Post  rambo54 Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:33 am

    franco wrote:
    rambo54 wrote:the 20th RGT of S-400 is 1544th (Vladimirsky Lager) -
    In addition to two S-300PS there are ~16 5P85SM2 and S-400 equipment since at least May 2018!

    Thanks, makes sense. Did you ever hear of a unit name for the S400 in Syria?

    Analysis of the ID plates of first leaked fotos (2 years ago) of 5P85S2 show that the first four TELs came from 549 AD RGT.
    I personally don't think that the meanwhile 8 TELs (at two sites) are an independent RGT but deployments from existing ones.

    BTW: 1544 RGT: look at 58.217255° 29.078285° (google 31.7.18) - wonderful clear view of 91N6
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    Post  George1 Wed Mar 13, 2019 1:45 am

    Re-equipment of air defense units in 2018 on the S-400 anti-aircraft missile system

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3567449.html
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    Post  George1 Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:06 pm

    According to the data refined using satellite images, as of January 1, 2021, the S-400 air defense missile systems were deployed in the following anti-aircraft missile regiments (abbreviated as ZRP)

    Moscow region:
    606 zrp-3 divisions
    549 zrp-2
    584 zrp-2
    210 zrp- 2
    93 zrp-2

    Leningrad region:
    500 zrp-2
    1488 zrp-2
    1489 zrp-2
    1490 zrp-4

    Pskov region:
    1544 zrp-2

    Kaliningrad region:
    1545 zrp-2
    183 zrp-4

    Murmansk region:
    531 zrp-2

    Arkhangelsk area:
    1528 zrp-4
    33 zrp-2

    Krasnodar Territory:
    1537 zrp-2

    Republic of Crimea:
    12 zrp-2
    18 zrp-3

    Saratov region:
    511 zrp-2

    Samara region:
    568 zrp-2

    Novosibirsk region:
    590 zrp-2

    Sverdlovsk region:
    185 zrp-2

    Primorsky Territory:
    589 zrp-2
    1533 zrp-2

    Khabarovsk Territory:
    1529 zrp-2
    1530 zrp-3

    Kamchatka Territory:
    1532 zrp-3

    Sakhalin Oblast:
    1724 zrp-2

    Syrian Arab Republic
    consolidated zrp 555th air group - 2

    Plus deployed two training divisions Yaroslavl Military School of Air Defense and the 11th Center of Anti-Aircraft Missile Forces (Leningrad Region)

    A total of 70 divisions of S-400 air defense systems were received in 2007-2020.

    https://dambiev.livejournal.com/2182340.html

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4233048.html

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    Post  owais.usmani Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:02 am

    Can any body list down the S-400 deployments as of current month? The Wikipedia article has this list but it seems to be several years old.
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    Post  franco Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:21 am

    owais.usmani wrote:Can any body list down the S-400 deployments as of current month? The Wikipedia article has this list but it seems to be several years old.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieSaUW6rTr8

    This list is missing the 588th in Samara (Central-UBO) and the 1724th in Sakhalin (Eastern-BBO) which are the last 2 units to convert. Scheduled for 2 more regiments this year but not sure of locations plus the first S-350 regiment is scheduled for this year.
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    Post  owais.usmani Mon Apr 19, 2021 11:30 am

    franco wrote:
    owais.usmani wrote:Can any body list down the S-400 deployments as of current month? The Wikipedia article has this list but it seems to be several years old.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieSaUW6rTr8

    This list is missing the 588th in Samara (Central-UBO) and the 1724th in Sakhalin (Eastern-BBO) which are the last 2 units to convert. Scheduled for 2 more regiments this year but not sure of locations plus the first S-350 regiment is scheduled for this year.

    How about a list in English language? Smile
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    Post  franco Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:40 pm

    S-400

    NORTH MD
    33rd - Rogachevo
    531st - Severomorsk
    1528th - Severodvinsk

    WEST MD
    500th - Leningrad
    1488th - Leningrad
    1489th - Leningrad
    1490th - Leningrad
    1544th - Strugi Krasnye

    183rd - Kaliningrad
    1545th - Kaliningrad

    93rd - Moscow
    210th - Moscow
    549th - Moscow
    584th - Moscow
    606th - Moscow

    SOUTH MD
    12th - Crimea
    18th - Crimea
    1536th - Rostov
    1537th - Novorossiysk

    CENTRAL MD
    185th - Ekaterinburg
    511th - Engels
    588th - Samara
    590th - Novosibirsk

    EAST MD
    589th - Nakhodka
    1529th - Khabarovsk
    1530th - Khurba
    1533rd - Vladivostok
    1532nd - Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky
    1724th - Khomutovo

    Syria:
    555th -

    Training Units:
    Gatchina
    Yaroslavl
    Ashulak

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    Post  owais.usmani Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:58 pm

    franco wrote:S-400

    NORTH MD
    33rd - Rogachevo
    531st - Severomorsk
    1528th - Severodvinsk

    WEST MD
    500th - Leningrad
    1488th - Leningrad
    1489th - Leningrad
    1490th - Leningrad
    1544th - Strugi Krasnye

    183rd - Kaliningrad
    1545th - Kaliningrad

    93rd - Moscow
    210th - Moscow
    549th - Moscow
    584th - Moscow
    606th - Moscow

    SOUTH MD
    12th - Crimea
    18th - Crimea
    1536th - Rostov
    1537th - Novorossiysk

    CENTRAL MD
    185th - Ekaterinburg
    511th - Engels
    588th - Samara
    590th - Novosibirsk

    EAST MD
    589th - Nakhodka
    1529th - Khabarovsk
    1530th - Khurba
    1533rd - Vladivostok
    1532nd - Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky
    1724th - Khomutovo

    Syria:
    555th -

    Training Units:
    Gatchina
    Yaroslavl
    Ashulak

    Thanks dude! thumbsup

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