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    GarryB
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    Post  GarryB Wed Sep 23, 2020 10:38 pm

    Instead of empty promises they should have just said back in 1990 (or pretty much any later point): Our country is decomposing, our economy is dead, our population is starving, our military is trash, we are throwing in the towel and doing everything USA orders us to do. We can't do anything to help you and you are on your own. Deal with it.

    You spoiled little brat.... wah wah wah they promised to help us and keep us safe and they didn't... it is all their fault... everything bad that happened after 1991 to Serbia and... why not all of Eastern Europe... it was all their fault wah wah wah.

    They had several economic collapses during the 1990s, with censored like Browder they were haemorrhaging assets and cash like they fell into a blender switched to super fast and fine chop for making smoothie drinks, they were going through a transition comparable to introducing communism or the invasion by Germany in WWII where parts of the country no longer existed in real terms and you are complaining that politicians like Yeltsin and Gorbachev let you down?

    Join the fucking queue... the 1990s was a window for them as to what a special relationship with the west would be like... the Ukraine is enjoying that right now... western investors go in and buy up anything of value and then asset strip it and sell it on... they started in Russia and it was like a kid in a candy store... they made billions for themselves and their mates... well they didn't make anything really.... they stole billions and screwed over those starving factory workers by stealing their pensions and firing them, but no, lets make it all about Serbia.

    If you are going to turn your back on Russia for not saving you then perhaps it is for the best... you are not a front page fashion model that is worth putting up with the tantrums and high maintenance shit.

    It is OK for you because they will likely still vote in your favour when your new buddies try to screw you again, because they do try to help where they can, but why should anyone apologise to you for not being able to save you... Russia didn't save the people of the Ukraine, though they did help the people of the Crimea... or more accurately helped them help themselves. They are helping in Syria but Libya and Iraq and Afghanistan are so far lost causes... but I have not heard them complaining that Russia didn't help enough.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:25 am

    It's mighty easy for someone who lives in New Zeland to criticize someone who lives in the country in question. Tell me Garry were you there in Serbia? during the time?. I doubt it, have you ever been to Serbia?. Again I doubt it.

    Papa wasn't saying the fact the Russians didn't act was his problem it was the problem the Russians feed them lie after lie, giving a country false hope is worse than being upfront about it.

    Your an awfully big hypocrite to sit there and call someone a "spoiled little brat" when you enjoy the benefits of the west and complain about what the west does none stop and never even lived in the country in question. The only spoiled brat here is you.

    So before you go around calling people "spoiled brats" you giant hypocrite, answer me this question. When are you moving to Russia? when will you stop taking that western money? or are you just going to sit at your PC whine about the west but enjoy all the benefits the west offers.



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    I get how you feel, you guys got backstabbed and you have morons here making excuses for the Russians, when the Russians back then made you this promise and that promise but did nothing and left you high and dry.

    Garry is biased and they will defend the Russians, so I wouldn't concern yourself with their opinion.

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    Post  medo Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:45 am

    It was not Russia, who screw you out, it was you yourself. Before NATO agression on FRY, Russia sent modern air defense and other weapons on domestic prices or even for free, but it was Serbs, who resell all those goods to ME countries (mostly Egypt) on market prices and made good money from it. When Russia find this out, they stop giving you weapons for free as they themselves could sell it to ME.

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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:16 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:It's mighty easy for someone who lives in New Zeland to criticize someone who lives in the country in question. Tell me Garry were you there in Serbia? during the time?. I doubt it, have you ever been to Serbia?. Again I doubt it.

    Papa wasn't saying the fact the Russians didn't act was his problem it was the problem the Russians feed them lie after lie, giving a country false hope is worse than being upfront about it.

    Your an awfully big hypocrite to sit there and call someone a "spoiled little brat" when you enjoy the benefits of the west and complain about what the west does none stop and never even lived in the country in question. The only spoiled brat here is you.

    So before you go around calling people "spoiled brats" you giant hypocrite, answer me this question. When are you moving to Russia? when will you stop taking that western money? or are you just going to sit at your PC whine about the west but enjoy all the benefits the west offers.

    @Papa

    I get how you feel, you guys got backstabbed and you have morons here making excuses for the Russians, when the Russians back then made you this promise and that promise but did nothing and left you high and dry.

    Garry is biased and they will defend the Russians, so I wouldn't concern yourself with their opinion.


    And this is precisely what ticks me off

    This topic is old and cold here, it's history, we moved on

    But having some random Canadians, Australians or New Zealanders suddenly giving me lectures on my own history (that I happened to live through) really takes the cake in hypocrisy department

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    Post  GarryB Fri Sep 25, 2020 5:02 am

    It's mighty easy for someone who lives in New Zeland to criticize someone who lives in the country in question. Tell me Garry were you there in Serbia? during the time?. I doubt it, have you ever been to Serbia?. Again I doubt it.

    Amusing opinion from a guy from the country that actually did lethally attack Serbia to help a minority group steal some land... are you going to do the same if American Indians or Mexicans want some of the land they currently occupy to be a brand new independent country?

    Why freedom and democracy for some like Albania but not South Ossetia or Abkhazia... why do Israelis have rights and Palestinians don't?

    Why would it matter if I have ever been to Serbia... considering what you claim to do for a living have you been to Serbia and how many Serbs did you kill while you were there?

    Papa wasn't saying the fact the Russians didn't act was his problem it was the problem the Russians feed them lie after lie, giving a country false hope is worse than being upfront about it.

    So being supportive but ultimately unable to stop the EU and US murdering his fellow countrymen is a bigger crime than murdering his fellow countrymen and aiding them to steal territory to create a new criminal state as a new neighbour for him. OK. Then Russian politicians who promised help are guilty...

    Your an awfully big hypocrite to sit there and call someone a "spoiled little brat" when you enjoy the benefits of the west and complain about what the west does none stop and never even lived in the country in question. The only spoiled brat here is you.

    Enjoy the benefits of a western society... the privilege of watching allies murder and rape and kill so the richest 1% can get slightly richer, and people they invade and bomb get angrier... all in my name... if you lined up every American leader and opposition politician who took the US to war saying it was a good idea and every British politician who said the same... I would be happy to machine gun down the lot of them... not that it would make any difference now.

    So before you go around calling people "spoiled brats" you giant hypocrite, answer me this question. When are you moving to Russia? when will you stop taking that western money? or are you just going to sit at your PC whine about the west but enjoy all the benefits the west offers.

    Ahhh, if you don't love it then leave argument. What money is the west giving me... would really like to see that... honestly asking...

    I get how you feel, you guys got backstabbed and you have morons here making excuses for the Russians, when the Russians back then made you this promise and that promise but did nothing and left you high and dry.

    Yes... diddums... you just wrap yourself in denial and cuddle up to people like Madeline Allbright who is probably earning millions in some thinktank some where talking up the Russian and Chinese threat to the whole world... you get buddy buddy with the people who murdered Serbs because Serbs are bad and it was the right thing to do.

    Garry is biased and they will defend the Russians, so I wouldn't concern yourself with their opinion.

    Of course I am biased, but that does not make me wrong.

    It was not Russia, who screw you out, it was you yourself. Before NATO agression on FRY, Russia sent modern air defense and other weapons on domestic prices or even for free, but it was Serbs, who resell all those goods to ME countries (mostly Egypt) on market prices and made good money from it. When Russia find this out, they stop giving you weapons for free as they themselves could sell it to ME.

    And you can't really blame Serbia... I mean what idiot would think the EU and HATO would bomb a country in Europe... no part of Yugoslavia was in the EU and HATO is supposed to be a defensive organsation... no HATO country was attacked therefore HATO should never have been involved.

    But obviously it is Russias fault.

    And this is precisely what ticks me off

    This topic is old and cold here, it's history, we moved on

    Yes, HATO bombed you and now you are HATOs bitch... as clear as day.

    But having some random Canadians, Australians or New Zealanders suddenly giving me lectures on my own history (that I happened to live through) really takes the cake in hypocrisy department

    I saw it from a different perspective and I certainly don't see it your way. I saw the collapse of the country you came from and in the western media it was all blamed on Serbia. Serbia was actively targeted as the bad guy even though clearly there were other bad guys involved... the fact that the KLA admitted to attacks on Serbian police and Serbian Army units near Albanian majority villages with the intent and purpose to get them to inflict reprisal attacks on those villages to get those villages on side with the KLA told me who the bad guys were... I would not be surprised if the CIA or US special forces taught them to do that...

    But obviously it was all Russias fault... or are you practising to join the EU... it is Russias fault... congrats you are now a full member...

    This topic is old and cold here, it's history, we moved on

    Interesting you say we... I suspect not all Serbs agree with your assessment of what happened and why.

    A bit like western sanctions on Russia... the reasons mean nothing at all... they can pick anything to add more, and also create situations if they need to... the attack on Serbia was always going to happen it was only a matter of time.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:02 am

    Oh I am not making up excuses, unlike you, I don't do that, we attacked Serbia and we bombed them to shit, but that's besides the point.

    Well if you feel that way why the hell are you still in Western society? again move to Russia, oh but you won't will you no you will enjoy all the benefits of living in a Western society and sure there are some cons but no place is perfect. But you like to sit at your PC screen and whine about how bad the west is but you don't mind enjoying those benefits, Ah spoiled brat alright. By all means move to Russia at least then when you whine about the west, I won't find you to be a massive hypocrite.

    Have you ever spent any part of your life in Russia? I am seriously asking you this or did you just literally read crap on the web if its the second option, Lol.

    You're in New Zealand you're getting that Western money.

    Oh, you can be biased and be right but your being biased and wrong~.

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    Post  JohninMK Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:46 am

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    Former Chief of the General Staff of the Serbian Armed Forces sentenced to three years for espionage for the United States

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    Post  miketheterrible Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:21 am

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    Former Chief of the General Staff of the Serbian Armed Forces sentenced to three years for espionage for the United States

    That's pretty big news. Serbia suffers a lot from corrupt officials as Russia does. Hopefully this will lead to further investigations into other politicians who may be selling Serbia down the river to US and EU.

    Congrats to Serbian authorities. Good sign.
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    Post  GarryB Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:31 am

    But Russia is the bad guy and America is a friend... surely helping an ally should mean medals and a promotion...

    Well if you feel that way why the hell are you still in Western society?

    If you don't love it then leave.

    Western society so fragile it cannot be criticized or anything bad said about it because it is perfect... while the leadership steal from the masses and are funded by big business that steal the wealth and bribe the politicians to maintain their monopoly and source of fresh blood.

    I won't find you to be a massive hypocrite.

    You murder women and children and support terrorist organisations by your own admission... could care less what you think of me.


    Have you ever spent any part of your life in Russia?

    No. There... I have answered your question... now answer mine.

    Do you have a soul?

    Most soldiers fight to protect their country but what sort of soldier fights for US companies and big business for oil and minerals against people who used to be zero threat to the US population... but now you fucked up their country some of them might be coming for yours...

    You're in New Zealand you're getting that Western money.

    Really... where do I sign up for this western money that falls from the skies... do I get extra for being white... I have heard about this white privilege but never really experienced it.

    And if I am wrong then Serbia should join HATO and the EU and just be another country in the region who has a chip on their shoulder about Russia... I am sure if they bark loud and clear the Americans might base some soldiers there and have some nukes in storage there perhaps... maybe a biolab to catalog their DNA information too... but they wont say why.

    I remember a cartoon of the leader of Vietnam meeting Bill Clinton in the 1990s where the Vietnamese guy is small and slender, and Bill is huge and he has the guy in a smothering embrace that envelopes the small Vietnamese guy, and Clinton is saying something like it is so great to see you you haven't changed much, and the Vietnamese guy is saying with sarcasm that America has not changed much either... smother smother...

    They can be very generous allies, but don't upset them... and know your place.

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