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USAF aircraft totals and serviceability rates just for some comparison.
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USAF active military aircraft numbers
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hoom- Posts : 2149
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Was just gonna post that.
Its pretty interesting, some types they have fewer than I'd have thought, others far far more.
Also kinda deceptive, I see 200 F15s & think 'Oh that's not so many' but then there are another 250 so its actually 450...
Then 150 F16 sounds OK until I notice the other 800 that my eyes skipped over
Had no idea they had anywhere near as many C-17s as that
Must have retired C-5?
And completely crazy numbers of KC-135.
But then for full picture you need to add helicopters, Marines & Navy (I wonder if they're including Air National Guard in these numbers?) and then the total numbers become mind bending.
Its pretty interesting, some types they have fewer than I'd have thought, others far far more.
Also kinda deceptive, I see 200 F15s & think 'Oh that's not so many' but then there are another 250 so its actually 450...
Then 150 F16 sounds OK until I notice the other 800 that my eyes skipped over
Had no idea they had anywhere near as many C-17s as that
Must have retired C-5?
And completely crazy numbers of KC-135.
But then for full picture you need to add helicopters, Marines & Navy (I wonder if they're including Air National Guard in these numbers?) and then the total numbers become mind bending.
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hoom wrote:Was just gonna post that.
Its pretty interesting, some types they have fewer than I'd have thought, others far far more.
Also kinda deceptive, I see 200 F15s & think 'Oh that's not so many' but then there are another 250 so its actually 450...
Then 150 F16 sounds OK until I notice the other 800 that my eyes skipped over
Had no idea they had anywhere near as many C-17s as that
Must have retired C-5?
And completely crazy numbers of KC-135.
But then for full picture you need to add helicopters, Marines & Navy (I wonder if they're including Air National Guard in these numbers?) and then the total numbers become mind bending.
You are making confusion between planes: F-15C is an air superiority fighter i.e. the equivalent of Su-27, F-15E is a strike plane i.e. something like a Su- 34 or better a Su-30 with primary A2G role.
F-15D and F-16D are OCU trainers so the equivalent of Su-30mk2 or any previous U market planes.planes (but retaining some operative characteristics).
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hoom wrote:Was just gonna post that.
Its pretty interesting, some types they have fewer than I'd have thought, others far far more.
Also kinda deceptive, I see 200 F15s & think 'Oh that's not so many' but then there are another 250 so its actually 450...
Then 150 F16 sounds OK until I notice the other 800 that my eyes skipped over
Had no idea they had anywhere near as many C-17s as that
Must have retired C-5?
And completely crazy numbers of KC-135.
But then for full picture you need to add helicopters, Marines & Navy (I wonder if they're including Air National Guard in these numbers?) and then the total numbers become mind bending.
Of course. Those assets are absolutely required for "US-style" power projection and they don't come cheap. The US is far away from Eurasia.
I think Air National Guard is included, not 100% sure though. If you include everything (Navy + Marines), I think the total is something like 3000 "fighters", or atleast pretty close, 2500+.
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Best part of the US fighter stock old clunker, from the cold war.
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The secret to the C-17s success is what they are trying with the F-35.
Make the factories that make all the parts in economically depressed areas so members of congress with rubber stamp new production orders to keep workers in their areas working and happy.
The Pentagon stopped asking for C-17s because Congress would order new production models every year without the Pentagon having to even ask... super successful.
Except this arrangement also made them super expensive... but you could turn that around and say they are an investment of money to depressed areas of the US... so think of it as welfare...
The C-17 is no better than an Il-476 yet costs 5-10 times more...
Make the factories that make all the parts in economically depressed areas so members of congress with rubber stamp new production orders to keep workers in their areas working and happy.
The Pentagon stopped asking for C-17s because Congress would order new production models every year without the Pentagon having to even ask... super successful.
Except this arrangement also made them super expensive... but you could turn that around and say they are an investment of money to depressed areas of the US... so think of it as welfare...
The C-17 is no better than an Il-476 yet costs 5-10 times more...
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GarryB wrote:The secret to the C-17s success is what they are trying with the F-35.
Make the factories that make all the parts in economically depressed areas so members of congress with rubber stamp new production orders to keep workers in their areas working and happy.
The Pentagon stopped asking for C-17s because Congress would order new production models every year without the Pentagon having to even ask... super successful.
Except this arrangement also made them super expensive... but you could turn that around and say they are an investment of money to depressed areas of the US... so think of it as welfare...
The C-17 is no better than an Il-476 yet costs 5-10 times more...
Pretty much every US military item costs 5-10 times more than its Russian analogue. People forget this when taking into account the
actual size of Russia's military (i.e. the Russian military budget has to be multiplied by 5-10 times to get a fair comparison). This is dangerous
for Russia since retarded US and EU politicians think they can steam roll over Russia.
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US Air Force Stats
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Technical readiness of the US Air Force fleet
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US Air Force Statistics
Official statistics on the US Air Force published in the USAF Almanac 2019 as a special issue of the Air Force Magazine for the US Air Force for June 2019. Statistics is mainly provided as of the end of the 2018 fiscal year (September 30, 2018).
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3661193.html
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Technical health of the US Air Force fleet continues to decline
As follows from the data of the US Air Force published by the American newspaper "Air Force Times", the level of technical serviceability of the US Air Force fleet in the 2018 fiscal year (ended September 30, 2018) further decreased compared to the previous 2017 fiscal year. The level of technical serviceability of the aviation fleet of the United States Air Force has been decreasing continuously since the 2012 fiscal year, having decreased in six years as a whole by 8%.
The level of technical serviceability of the US Air Force aircraft fleet in the 2018 fiscal year (c) Air Force Times
According to published data, a total of 39 out of 87 types of aircraft of the US Air Force were faced with a deterioration in the level of technical health in 2018 Finnish year, some significantly.
In particular, for fifth-generation fighter jets Ljckheed Martin F-35A Lightning II technical serviceability decreased by 5% (less than half of the 148 F-35A aircraft of the US Air Force were considered capable of flying in 2018 Finn year). Also, a significant decrease in technical readiness was affected by Boeing F-15E Strike Eagle fighter-bombers (a decrease of 4%, due to a high level of deployment), Bell Boeing CV-22 Osprey convertible planes (by 7%), DRLO planes and control Boeing E-3G AWACS Sentry systems (by almost 9%), Lockheed C-130H Hercules military transport aircraft (by almost 5%), and Beechcraft T-6A training turboprop training aircraft
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3721146.html
As follows from the data of the US Air Force published by the American newspaper "Air Force Times", the level of technical serviceability of the US Air Force fleet in the 2018 fiscal year (ended September 30, 2018) further decreased compared to the previous 2017 fiscal year. The level of technical serviceability of the aviation fleet of the United States Air Force has been decreasing continuously since the 2012 fiscal year, having decreased in six years as a whole by 8%.
The level of technical serviceability of the US Air Force aircraft fleet in the 2018 fiscal year (c) Air Force Times
According to published data, a total of 39 out of 87 types of aircraft of the US Air Force were faced with a deterioration in the level of technical health in 2018 Finnish year, some significantly.
In particular, for fifth-generation fighter jets Ljckheed Martin F-35A Lightning II technical serviceability decreased by 5% (less than half of the 148 F-35A aircraft of the US Air Force were considered capable of flying in 2018 Finn year). Also, a significant decrease in technical readiness was affected by Boeing F-15E Strike Eagle fighter-bombers (a decrease of 4%, due to a high level of deployment), Bell Boeing CV-22 Osprey convertible planes (by 7%), DRLO planes and control Boeing E-3G AWACS Sentry systems (by almost 9%), Lockheed C-130H Hercules military transport aircraft (by almost 5%), and Beechcraft T-6A training turboprop training aircraft
https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3721146.html
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