You said (the Su-35) ...
has a very low RCS for a Russian plane,
Suggesting that Russian planes have high RCS.
"suggesting" hahaha, did I not say Su-27 derivative as the conversation went on?
There are a couple of differences, one being that the PAK-FA has "unclean" engine intakes which increases it's RCS, and the other that, AFAIK, the PAK-FA doesn't have it's RAM yet, probably due to maintenance costs.
It is a flying prototype... two of at least 12. Stealth is hardly going to be tested on every prototype... they can do that with models including full sized models, for the flying prototypes they are more interested in flight performance, engines, radar, systems integration, weapons etc.
No one's doubting that Garry, all I'm saying is that because no PAK-FAs that we know of have a complete Stealth package, you can't completely estimate it's RCS. Sukhoi's current claim (most likely without the 2 stealth features I mentioned) is probably based on a PAK-FA's shaping, which is also probably why Western Gen 4.5 planes have about the same RCS too.
They won't fair that much better v.s. a full on Stealth plane, but it helps.
If a LO wont fare much better than a normal 4th or 4.5 gen fighter then it doesn't help... making a plane is expensive and a compromise in design.
Actually, a Su-35 will kill every Su-27 there are. A F-18E/F will kill every F-18 there are. A F-15SE will kill every F-15 there are. Gen 4.5 planes with some Stealth features are very much so better than their generic Gen 4 counterparts.
Modern stealth adaptations to the F-15 would give it a far smaller RCS than even the "big modernization" of the Su-27, or in other words, make the F-15 stealthier than the Su-35.
Can you back that up with evidence or is it just your opinion?
The blended fuselage/wing design of the Flanker should already make its RCS from most angles smaller than that of the Eagle.
For the Su-35's RCS estimate, look to the link above (1 m2 on the Front with X-band).
And for the F-15SE's:
"the Silent Eagle offers the same level of front-aspect stealth than the "international release version" of the JSF"
Unfortunately I was unable to find a RCS estimate of the export F-35.
Lastly, plasma stealth has been, and still is, a myth. There is no proof out there other than old Internet articles that the Russians are even pursuing it anymore.
Don't really care what you believe, it was designed initially to generate ionised gas fields around warheads... there were articles in the 1990s just like there were articles about all sorts of things they wanted foreigners to invest money into to keep the programs going. Now the articles stop you can think the programs are dead all you want... happy in the secure knowledge that if it were even possible for a Russian to have an idea that might work, or that there is any alternative to the path the US has blazed in stealth technology that obviously you would be told on CNN or Fox News... because they have fair and balanced reporting and keep Americans well informed about things that matter.
I don't care what your opinion is, I want facts!
If you have any article or modern evidence that they are, please come forth.
Wouldn't if I did... I don't think you are interested in such things for the same reasons I am. Would just say that the Russians were printing articles and putting out lots of info on scramjet research in the 1990s too... not so much now. All you hear is scramjet powered Brahmos II. If there were no collaborative program with India we wouldn't even hear about that. So that is proof they are not working on scramjet technology either.
So you aren't denying there's no evidence that the Russians are even pursuing Plasma Stealth? Thank you.