ult wrote:...Potential order for 6 frigates, supposedly 22350/22350M (my speculation), is mentioned as well.
If this happens Russian surface fleet will officially be back in business

ult wrote:...Potential order for 6 frigates, supposedly 22350/22350M (my speculation), is mentioned as well.
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There are conflicting reports.dino00 wrote:Suvorov only in 2023
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All the surviving shipping companies in the US use the flags of Liberia, Panama and so on which means their ships can´t be used by the military.
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Podlodka77 wrote:Yes, but it's not all about Ukrainian engines because we can see how much faster were built and commissioned those 20380 corvettes built by Amur shipyard.
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ALAMO wrote:Podlodka77 wrote:Yes, but it's not all about Ukrainian engines because we can see how much faster were built and commissioned those 20380 corvettes built by Amur shipyard.
Well, you should consider two facts.
First, Amur has not much more to do rather than 20380s, while Severna is crazy busy with several other programs, while the men&infastructure is not made of rubber.
Second, they have started 20380s when the technology was already mastered by Severna, and took them ... 12? years to end the first one, while Severna made the very first in about half of that ...
Now they are just making a serial product, and it shall go faster&smoother any step by now.
Not that I am trying to defend the Severna at the expense of Amur, but some balance is nice![]()
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Podlodka77 wrote:Yes, it was mistake and i dont have a problem with that - to admit that it was my mistake. That mistake was fixed, i think.
I am not not here to try to impress you or anyone else but i am here because i want to write with others about russian military weapons.
My english is not the best, i agree with you about that that, but i am trying. Maybe your english is better and i could agree with you about that, but for Severnaya Werf - NO. That was pure monopoly from one shipyard and thats over.
Department of Information and Mass Communications of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation wrote:
Taking into account the active development of the Arctic zone, ensuring the safety of the functioning of the Northern Sea Route and domestic hydrographic research of the Arctic, the most important segment of the naval shipbuilding program, which includes equipping the Russian Navy with icebreaking ships and ice-class support ships, will be among the priority development in 2022 and in the short term.
The High Command of the Russian Navy analyzed the experience of the first years of operation in the Northern Fleet of the newest icebreaker Ilya Muromets.
This experience has fully proved the effectiveness of the characteristics laid down in the design of the icebreaker. The crew of the multifunctional logistic support vessel "Elbrus", which has an ice class, is efficiently fulfilling its tasks. This vessel has proven its ability to efficiently resolve issues of integrated support for the Arctic group.
Currently, the Admiralteyskie Verfi enterprise continues the construction of the Ivan Papanin universal patrol ship of the Arctic zone, and the project 21180M Yevpatiy Kolovrat icebreaker, which is being built in St. Petersburg at the Almaz Shipbuilding Company, will become part of the Russian Navy in 2022 year.
During the design and construction of these ships, a number of domestic innovative solutions have been introduced.
How many ships were laid down in Amur shipyard last year. Yes, i know that you know the answer because its 3 ships (2 corvettes 20380 and 1 20385 corvette). Severnaya Werf ? Nothing. There is no excuse for that nothing
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Krepost wrote:Ships that have entered service in the Russian Navy during 2021:
Submarines
- Knyaz Oleg (Borei Class)
- Kazan (Yasen Class)
- Novosibirsk (Yasen Class)
- Magadan (Kilo Class)
Warhips (with displacment greater than 500T)
- Grayvoron (Buyan-M Class)
- Georgy Kurbatov (Alexandrit class minesweeper)
Auxiliaries (with displacement greater than 500T)
- Vsevolod Bobrov (pr. 12320 logistics ship)
- Vice Admiral Paromov (pr. 03182 tanker)
Excellent year as far as submarines are concerned.
Poor year as far as surface warfare ships are concerned. 2020 was much better.
Some ships did not make it for 2021: Tsiklon (Karakurt class), Sergei Kotov (Bykov class) were close to make it for 2021, but have not finished the sea trials.
2022 is expected to be a banner year:
- 4 or 5 submarines (Suvorov, Belgorod, Krasnoyarsk, Kronshtadt and Ufa)
- Adm. Golovko (Gorshkov class)
- Retivy and Rezky (Steregushy class)
- Sergei Kotov (Bykov class)
- Grad (Buyan-M class)
- Tsiklon and Burya (Karakurt class) perhaps also Askold and Kozelsk
- Pyotr Ilichev and Anatoly Shlemov (Alexandrit class)
+ many auxiliaries
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Podlodka77 wrote:From what I understand Russia is playing catch-up on reserch and development gap between 1990-2010, when they ran on absolute zeroes.
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