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    Post  JohninMK on Sun Mar 04, 2018 7:10 pm

    Lights blue touch paper.

    In early 2010s the successes in Russian military buildup triggered an euphoria. It was characterized by calls to resume the production of missile-carrying trains, sea skimmers, air-cushioned ships and total upgrade of the fleet inherited from the USSR. However, it should be admitted now that the program had failed, expert Alexander Shishkin writes in the Vzglyad business newspaper.

    http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/focus-analysis/naval-technology/6006-russia-s-modernization-of-soviet-era-vessels-facing-problems-part-1.html
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    Post  George1 on Wed Mar 07, 2018 3:52 am

    Report from PJSC Shipyard "Severnaya Verf" (Under construction ships)

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3113976.html

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    Post  GunshipDemocracy on Wed Mar 07, 2018 8:16 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Lights blue touch paper.

    In early 2010s the successes in Russian military buildup triggered an euphoria. It was characterized by calls to resume the production of missile-carrying trains, sea skimmers, air-cushioned ships and total upgrade of the fleet inherited from the USSR. However, it should be admitted now that the program had failed, expert Alexander Shishkin writes in the Vzglyad business newspaper.

    http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/focus-analysis/naval-technology/6006-russia-s-modernization-of-soviet-era-vessels-facing-problems-part-1.html

    Well Vzglyad is more like "bloggers digest" - no own news just digested and commented from other sources. End ths expert is AFAIK just a nave engineer nobody who runs any industrial activity.
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    Post  George1 on Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:58 pm

    Construction of warships of the ocean and far sea for the Russian Navy as of 04/01/2018

    Information was used from reports of the Ministry of Defense of Russia, information agencies, press services of shipyard enterprises; from factory newspapers; from websites, blogs and forums on naval, military and military-industrial topics.

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    Post  verkhoturye51 on Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:42 pm

    Question for George: after Ivan Gren commision next month, can we expect decomissions of some Aligator LSTs from 1960s?
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    Post  George1 on Fri Apr 06, 2018 1:29 am

    verkhoturye51 wrote:Question for George: after Ivan Gren commission next month, can we expect decommissions of some Aligator LSTs from 1960s?

    i have no idea.
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    Post  eehnie on Thu May 17, 2018 4:58 am

    http://tass.com/defense/1004641

    Russian shipbuilders to present designs of new aircraft carrier by yearend

    Military & Defense May 16, 20:32 UTC+3

    If one of the designs is approved, the experimental design work on the new aircraft carrier may begin in 2019, the source said

    MOSCOW, May 16. /TASS/. The United Ship-Building Corporation will present several finalized preliminary designs of a new domestic aircraft carrier to the Defense Ministry by the end of this year, a source in the defense sector told TASS on Wednesday.

    If one of the designs is approved, the experimental design work on the new aircraft carrier may begin in 2019, the source said.

    "The United Ship-Building Corporation has been instructed to submit its finalized proposals [on the new aircraft carrier] to the Defense Ministry for examination by the end of the year. One of the versions envisage, in particular, building an aircraft carrier with a displacement of 75,000 tonnes," the source said.

    If one of the designs is approved, "the ship’s technical designing and the preparation of the design documentation may begin from 2019 and the aircraft carrier may be laid down in 2021-2022 and its construction will last about 10 years, according to preliminary estimates," the source explained.

    Russia’s state armament program for 2018-2027 stipulates "initial financing" under the new carrier’s program.

    The United Ship-Building Corporation did not comment for TASS on the information provided by the source.

    The Russian Navy currently operates the sole medium-size oil-fueled aircraft carrier Admiral Kuznetsov (the heavy aircraft-carrying cruiser according to the domestic classification). As the Russian Navy stated before, the fleet expects to get a cutting-edge nuclear-powered aircraft carrier with a displacement of no less than 70,000 tonnes by late 2030.

    The Krylov State Research Center earlier designed and unveiled a preliminary design of an aircraft carrier for foreign customers, which was also offered for the domestic Navy. Project 23000 was named Storm. Its sketch design suggests the aircraft carrier will displace 80,000-90,000 tonnes and feature a combined powerplant (both the nuclear reactor and the gas turbine engine). The carrier’s air group is expected to comprise up to 60 aircraft.

    To compare this with previous news:

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t7032p75-state-armament-program-2018-2027#217671
    https://www.russiadefence.net/t7032p75-state-armament-program-2018-2027#217835

    that were deleted from this topic by George1 and called pollution:

    https://www.russiadefence.net/t7201p50-discussion-about-construction-or-not-of-ac-destroyers-cruisers-for-runavy#217889
    https://www.russiadefence.net/t7201p50-discussion-about-construction-or-not-of-ac-destroyers-cruisers-for-runavy#218000

    The pollution was instead in the insults of the people that were allowed by him and GarryB to insult me because of exposing a lot of reality in this forum and this topic.

    You was full wrong George1 only rest to you to recognize it.

    The reality always comes to put the wrong arguments in the right place.
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    Post  Austin on Thu May 17, 2018 10:09 am

    Vladimir Putin discussed the problems of rearmament of the Navy

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3201649.html

    As Ivan Safronov writes in the article "Cephalopod" surfaced in Bocharov Creek , published in the newspaper Kommersant , on Wednesday, in the presence of President Vladimir Putin, military and industry representatives discussed the problems of cooperation of the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC), because of which the deadlines execution of the state defense order. The military repeatedly raised this issue at internal meetings, but the situation remained almost unchanged. The president's intervention is designed to prevent similar problems in the implementation of the new state armament program until 2027, in which trillions of rubles are allocated for the development of the Navy.

    Opening the meeting, Vladimir Putin recalled that the Navy is "the most important factor in the country's military, economic security, maintaining strategic parity" and "in general, a significant tool for ensuring our national interests." The latter included, in particular, the actions of ships and submarines that struck during the military operation in Syria strikes on positions of the militants with cruise missiles of the "Caliber" type from the waters of the Mediterranean and Caspian seas. "We will continue to equip the Navy with the latest systems of weapons, communications, reconnaissance and target designation." As before, the quality requirements, the deadlines for fulfilling the tasks of the state defense order should remain the most stringent, "the president said, recognizing" problematic issues "with both the creation of new equipment and the repair of the already delivered equipment. Then the meeting continued in a closed mode for the press:

    The main topic of the meeting was the execution of the state defense order by enterprises that are part of the USC cooperation, two sources of Kommersant in the shipbuilding industry and an official close to the leadership of the Defense Ministry say. The military is concerned about the negative statistics of the failure of the terms of contracts for the supply of ships and submarines, provided timely advance and payment, one of the interlocutors of Kommersant admits.

    For this reason, not only high-ranking military officers (acting Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, Deputy Minister for Armaments Yuri Borisov, Navy Commander Vladimir Korolyov, etc.) were summoned to Sochi and the industry leadership (OSK President Alexei Rakhmanov and acting Minister of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov), but the managers of the enterprises of the shipbuilding industry - Sevmash, Severnaya Verf, Zvezda and TsKB of marine engineering Rubin.

    Re-equipment of the Navy was one of the priorities of the previous state program of armaments: in 2011-2020, the fleet planned to allocate about 4.7 trillion rubles, of which almost half were to go for serial purchases of new weapons and equipment. However, by early 2018, only three of the eight strategic nuclear submarines of Project 955 Borei (the standard carrier of the Bulava ICBM) and one of the seven multi-purpose submarines of Project 885 Yasen (carrier of cruise missiles) were introduced into the Navy. The situation was no better with combat surface ships: according to the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, the Navy received only four frigates and eleven corvettes (of 15 and 35 ordered accordingly) during this time. According to the interlocutor of "Kommersant" in the industry, in part the problems are objective:

    In February, March and May, during the conference calls, Sergei Shoigu criticized USC enterprises, accusing them of disrupting the terms of their obligations under contracts, but, according to the Kommersant source, the situation did not improve, so the discussion reached the presidential level. Meanwhile, in the new state armament program until 2027 (about 4 trillion rubles in the part of the Navy) there are extremely important projects that can not be "shifted to the right" under any circumstances, the source of Kommersant in the department continues, - the construction of strategic nuclear submarines " Borey B, multi-purpose submarines of the fifth generation of the Husky type (carrier of hypersonic missiles Zirkon), non-nuclear submarines Kalina. Under special control, according to "Kommersant", there are projects of underwater drones such as "Cephalopod" and "Status-6"

    According to the expert of the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies Konstantin Makienko, USC has a number of old problems, which it is unlikely to solve in the existing model of the industry management. But you can try to focus on projects that are key to the country's defense capability (strategic and multi-purpose nuclear submarines) or are already launched into the series, the expert believes.
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    Post  LMFS on Thu May 17, 2018 2:42 pm

    I have read that the productivity of Russian shipyards is 20% of international mean value... from the values in Austin's post and notwithstanding the issue with the engines, the situation seems a complete disaster...

    Any idea, why all those problems? Have they already solved them for GPV 2027?
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    Post  Hole on Thu May 17, 2018 4:15 pm

    A lot has to do with politics and the Navy not knowing what it wants.

    You start building a ship and than someone comes and tells you: "Stop using this or that component, because it´s foreign" or part of your suppliers stops delivering items because you are in Russia... Well, that´s not good for productivity.

    Then look at the Steregutschij. Series production in the first yard was accelerating, then comes the Navy and wants the ships with cruise missiles. The yard stops production, the ship is redesingned and the production starts over again. But years are lost. Same with the Gren. First the Navy wants six vessels, mostly for coastal and littoral areas. But it should be well armed. Than they change their mind, reduce the weapon load, just to save a few bucks. Then Medveded/Serdukhov come along and decide, that the Mistral will be bought. The production is stopped for years.
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    Post  Singular_Transform on Fri May 18, 2018 8:17 am

    It happens with every new product.

    New product needs new process, it needs debugging/fine tuning .

    So, if the lead time of the components are say 12 month, and you learn the process , there can be cases when you recognise issue only during the final assembly affecting the design/beginning of the manufacturing process..

    Means you have to re-manufacture the part, and potentially you have to repeat it several times.

    So, the first part is the most time consuming to make, the second and consecutive units are faster/ cheaper than that.

    See the Ford carrier issues, they have to re-design the whole ship - and they had to do it because of the use of a new supplier for arresting gear/catapult, who has to learn the processes.


    So ,the most important ship of the RuN is the Kazan, if they commission it then the rest of the submarines will be easy ride. Or the surface ships : )
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    Post  LMFS on Fri May 18, 2018 2:03 pm

    Hole wrote:A lot has to do with politics and the Navy not knowing what it wants.

    You start building a ship and than someone comes and tells you: "Stop using this or that component, because it´s foreign" or part of your suppliers stops delivering items because you are in Russia... Well, that´s not good for productivity.

    Then look at the Steregutschij. Series production in the first yard was accelerating, then comes the Navy and wants the ships with cruise missiles. The yard stops production, the ship is redesingned and the production starts over again. But years are lost. Same with the Gren. First the Navy wants six vessels, mostly for coastal and littoral areas. But it should be well armed. Than they change their mind, reduce the weapon load, just to save a few bucks. Then Medveded/Serdukhov come along and decide, that the Mistral will be bought. The production is stopped for years.
    Sure

    Lack of money + unclear priorities + change of components + inefficient production--> delays --> need for redesign --> start the cycle again

    Definitely not looking good. Let's see if they manage to correct this trend
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    Post  Hole on Fri May 18, 2018 5:08 pm

    Is already happening. Look at he Karakurt. Designed from the outset with all-russian systems. Navy is also on board (no pun intended), because there are now contracts with four (?) yards for 18+ ships.
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    Post  Singular_Transform on Fri May 18, 2018 6:54 pm

    LMFS wrote:
    Sure

    Lack of money + unclear priorities + change of components + inefficient production--> delays --> need for redesign --> start the cycle again

    Definitely not looking good. Let's see if they manage to correct this trend


    They call it as "learning curve".
    Again, see ford carrier.
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    Post  LMFS on Fri May 18, 2018 7:04 pm

    Singular_Transform wrote:
    LMFS wrote:
    Sure

    Lack of money + unclear priorities + change of components + inefficient production--> delays --> need for redesign --> start the cycle again

    Definitely not looking good. Let's see if they manage to correct this trend


    They call it as "learning curve".
    Again, see ford carrier.
    The Ford case looks rather like a fiscal cliff, is not the best example of how things should work IMO.
    Of course I assume they will eventually get over it but the issue is when you are so ineffective you spend and spend and go nowhere. This non acceptable for the government since you lose money and get nothing in return. I am crossing my fingers to start seeing faster deliveries to the navy in coming years.
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    Post  Hole on Fri May 18, 2018 10:18 pm

    Singular_Transform wrote:
    LMFS wrote:
    Sure

    Lack of money + unclear priorities + change of components + inefficient production--> delays --> need for redesign --> start the cycle again

    Definitely not looking good. Let's see if they manage to correct this trend


    They call it as "learning curve".
    Again, see ford carrier.

    What do you mean? Ford is perfect... for the "shareholder" of the MIC.
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    Post  Singular_trafo on Fri May 18, 2018 11:01 pm

    LMFS wrote:
    Singular_Transform wrote:
    LMFS wrote:
    Sure

    Lack of money + unclear priorities + change of components + inefficient production--> delays --> need for redesign --> start the cycle again

    Definitely not looking good. Let's see if they manage to correct this trend


    They call it as "learning curve".
    Again, see ford carrier.
    The Ford case looks rather like a fiscal cliff, is not the best example of how things should work IMO.
    Of course I assume they will eventually get over it but the issue is when you are so ineffective you spend and spend and go nowhere. This non acceptable for the government since you lose money and get nothing in return. I am crossing my fingers to start seeing faster deliveries to the navy in coming years.

    Both case, the Ford (F35) and the Kazan is the result of the same problem, but with different solutions.

    The Ford main problems are the arresting and catapult systems.
    Both of them new and challenging design, and both of them manufactured by a company without any experience on the field.

    Due to that it takes one decade to mature the design - at least.
    With the Kazan the Russian MIC faced similar issue.
    The Yassen was a finished soviet submarine, but for the Kazan they had to rebuild the complete supply chain, re design major elements, create new businesses ,processes .

    The similarity ending here.

    With the Ford the US choose the path to aim the original schedule, and try to keep the cost low ( yes, this is the low cost version of the Ford building : ) )

    It means that they installed the systems without proper test, and finalized the ship design without proven equipment.

    To rub salt into the wound they already building the second and third carrier.

    Means that instead to say increase the arresting gear dimensions by 200mm, they have to spend enormous amount of money to found a way to fit the final equipment into the limited space.Or accept that the ship will not ever work as intended ( looks like this will be the favored solution (

    Te Russians simply stopped the construction process, and shifted the consecutive ships to the right.
    Means that they still have opportunity to modify the ship if it needed with way less cost.
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    Post  George1 on Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:40 pm

    Under construction ships and submarines as of 01.06.18

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    https://navy-korabel.livejournal.com/192082.html
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:49 pm

    Northern Design Bureau is designing an amphibious ship with a displacement of 8,000 tons for the RFN:
    https://iz.ru/756623/2018-06-18/dlia-vmf-proektiruiut-novyi-bolshoi-desantnyi-korabl
    for comparison, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistral-class_amphibious_assault_ship has
    Displacement: 16,500 tonnes (empty);

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Ocean_(L12) has
    Displacement: 21,500 t (21,200 long tons; 23,700 short tons);

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dokdo-class_amphibious_assault_ship has Displacement: 14,300 tons (empty);

    Even the WWII CVEs were bigger, except 1:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escort_carrier

    Well, they have to start somewhere!
    Russia will begin to build helicopter carriers after 2020 - the deputy head of the Navy
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    Post  Tsavo Lion on Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:26 pm

    Others deny the fact that it has been work on navalised variant of the F-22, that has been later stopped in order to go forward with the F-35, when there are multiple public reports of it:
    http://ausairpower.net/APA-NOTAM-230209-1.html
    and many more.
    That was posted in 2009 as private opinion, but now there's no need for navalized F-22s to confront Flankers & their Chinese derivatives; enemy's AShMs will keep CVNs at bay & engage them with better success than using fighters. I never seen anything about "work on navalised variant of the F-22 stopped to go forward with the F-35".
    Do u have other "public records" showing it to be true?
    If u r o smart, please provide ur credentials, namely: ur educational background + past & current occupations that can be independently verified. If u r not a former/current aviation &/ defence professional, why should any1 take u seriously? This isn't a kindergarten!
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    Post  George1 on Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:58 pm

    The ship's composition of the Russian Navy (warships of 1-2 rank, NK - from 2,000 tons full) as of 01.07.2018

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    https://navy-korabel.livejournal.com/194440.html
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    Post  LMFS on Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:49 am

    The construction of the destroyer "Leader" and the aircraft carrier may be delayed until 2035


    The Minpromtorg also added that they are considering three scenarios for the development of the economy and the shipbuilding industry: conservative, innovative and target

    MOSCOW, July 3. / TASS /. The construction of perspective surface ships of the far sea zone with a lack of financing may be postponed until 2035. This is stated in the Draft Strategy for the Development of the Shipbuilding Industry for the period up to 2035 by the Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation.

    "With regard to military shipbuilding, it is expected to postpone the commencement of R & D [research and development work] and serial purchases for a number of prospective ships and vessels for the period after 2025 due to the substantial sequestration of budgetary allocations for defense, as well as the complete refusal to purchase a number of large surface ships (a prospective destroyer, a marine aircraft carrier complex, the IAC) until 2035, "the document says.

    Based on the degree of favorable macroeconomic and industry indicators, the Ministry of Industry and Trade considers three scenarios for the development of the economy in general and the shipbuilding industry in particular: conservative, innovative and targeted.

    "In the conservative scenario, the slowdown in economic growth has a negative impact on the development of the shipbuilding industry, because of the declining competitiveness of the economy, the persistence of tight fiscal policy, the transition to monetary policy with a positive real key interest rate of 2-3%, and a decline in oil prices to $ 40 per barrel in constant dollars in 2017, GDP growth will be 0.2% in 2018-2020, 1.8% in 2021-2025, followed by a slowdown to 1.0% in 2031-2035, "the draft document explains.

    According to the innovative scenario, in the military shipbuilding sector, it is expected that in 2020-2022 construction of the main series of ships laid before 2018 will be completed, as well as "intensification of R & D and the start of procurement of head and serial advanced models, including large surface ships of the far sea and ocean zone actions after 2020 ". Oil prices in this scenario will remain at around $ 60 per barrel.

    The target (forced) scenario, in addition, involves an intensive increase in the supply of ships and ships in the framework of military-technical cooperation. The rise in oil prices under such a scenario will persist to about $ 75 per barrel in constant dollars in 2017.
    Prospective ships

    Earlier, Deputy Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Navy for armament Viktor Bursuk said that work on the construction of a prospective destroyer "Leader" for the Navy could begin in 2020.

    The project of the destroyer under the code "Leader" is being developed at the Northern Design Bureau in St. Petersburg. Igor Ponomarev, vice-president of the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) for military shipbuilding, clarified earlier, the Russian Defense Ministry has already agreed on the outline design of the ship. It was reported that the displacement of the future destroyer could range from 10 to 15 thousand tons. According to Bursuk, "Leader" will receive a nuclear power plant.

    In turn, the head of the United Shipbuilding Corporation, Alexei Rakhmanov, reported that Russian shipbuilders are designing a prospective aircraft carrier in an initiative, but there is still no contract for it. Earlier, the TASS source reported that the USC before the end of 2018 will submit for consideration to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation a few finalized drafts of a new domestic aircraft carrier. In case of a positive decision on one of the options, development work on the ship can begin in 2019.

    Currently, the Russian Navy has a single non-nuclear medium-sized aircraft carrier, Admiral Kuznetsov (according to the Russian classification, a heavy aircraft carrying cruiser). As previously stated in the Navy, the Russian fleet expects to receive a prospective aircraft carrier with an atomic power plant by the end of 2030, the displacement of the new aircraft carrier should not be less than 70 thousand tons.

    Krylov State Research Center previously developed and presented to the general public an aircraft carrier design for foreign customers, which was also offered for the domestic fleet. Project 23000 was named "Storm". The sketch assumes that the ship will have a displacement of 80-90 thousand tons, it will be equipped with a combined power plant (both an atomic reactor and a gas turbine engine), the air group of the ship must number up to 60 aircraft.

    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/5344390
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    Post  LMFS on Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:57 am

    The Ministry of Industry and Trade named the reasons for the constant disruption of the construction of warships


    The ministry said that "the fundamental problem with the renewal of the fleet of the domestic fleet is the imperfection of state planning"

    http://tass.ru/ekonomika/5344257
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    Post  walle83 on Fri Jul 06, 2018 2:40 pm

    LMFS wrote:

    The Ministry of Industry and Trade named the reasons for the constant disruption of the construction of warships





    The ministry said that "the fundamental problem with the renewal of the fleet of the domestic fleet is the imperfection of state planning"

    http://tass.ru/ekonomika/5344257

    Just would like to add that this is exactly what I said a few months ago and I was was critized for saying it. Russia lacks long term planning for its navy.
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    Post  Isos on Fri Jul 06, 2018 5:41 pm

    Russia lacks long term planning for its navy.

    They lack interest in navy compared to ground and air forces.

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