Syrian Civil War: News #10

8 districts, nice one SAA.



And some facts:

https://twitter.com/leithfadel/status/802939543204806656

The number 10,000 sounds too low but it ain't 250,000 for sure.

the next target for the SAA after eastern Aleppo/Aleppo city, i think will be the Anadan plains Kafr Hamra, then Southern Aleppo (which has been quiet so it seems considering Hez were gearing up to attack Khan Tuman), and on to link up with Kafarya and Foua. any else have any thoughts?

KiloGolf wrote:

you can't make this stuff up
propaganda 404 moments on twitter... right now.

http://www.euronews.com/2016/11/17/aleppo-s-famed-cat-sanctuary-among-recent-victims-in-war-torn-syria

d_taddei2 wrote:the next target for the SAA after eastern Aleppo/Aleppo city, i think will be the Anadan plains Kafr Hamra, then Southern Aleppo (which has been quiet so it seems considering Hez were gearing up to attack Khan Tuman), and on to link up with Kafarya and Foua. any else have any thoughts?

While those places are indeed the logical step. Given the Turkish invasion I wouldn't rule out a push northwards, from Kuwairis to Al Bab and possibly eastwards to Deir Hafir.

KiloGolf wrote:

d_taddei2 wrote:the next target for the SAA after eastern Aleppo/Aleppo city, i think will be the Anadan plains Kafr Hamra, then Southern Aleppo (which has been quiet so it seems considering Hez were gearing up to attack Khan Tuman), and on to link up with Kafarya and Foua. any else have any thoughts?

While those places are indeed the logical step. Given the Turkish invasion I wouldn't rule out a push northwards, from Kuwairis to Al Bab and possibly eastwards to Deir Hafir.

of course but i saw that this front had already troops deployed and starting to make push, i would also imagine a bit of rest for the troops as well as fortifying Aleppo. The western and southern Aleppo region itself has still a massive amount of land still in terrorist hands

Allepo - Finito la musica (for the Islamists)



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Jihadist rebels officially surrender last West Ghouta stronghold to Syrian Army
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/jihadist-rebels-officially-surrender-last-west-ghouta-stronghold-syrian-army/
DAMASCUS, SYRIA (10:15 A.M.) - The jihadist rebels of Jabhat Fateh Al-Sham (formerly Al-Nusra Front) and Harakat Ahrar Al-Sham agreed to finally surrender the strategic West Ghouta town of Khan Al-Sheih to the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) after 4 long years of battle.

According to a military source from the 7th Armored Division, the jihadist rebels have begun packing the buses in Khan Al-Sheih, as they prepare to be transported to the Idlib Governorate by the government.

Initially, the jihadist rebels requested to be transferred to the Dara'a Governorate before surrendering the town; however, the Syrian Arab Army's High Command declined this offer because it would allow them continue their war in southern Syria.Once terms were accepted by both sides, the date for the jihadist transfer to Idlib was set for November 27th, but this was later postponed to November 28th due to some problems with Jabhat Fateh Al-Sham members that refused to surrender.

Khan Al-Sheih is Jabhat Fateh Al-Sham's last stronghold in the West Ghouta region of rural Damascus; its loss will free-up thousands of soldiers from the Syrian Arab Army.

Some observations.

What im going to say is not been told anywhere , you will not ever read this
from Russia media RT or from Putin in open public , at best only in whisper to his friends.
But what happens in Syria ,what happens in IRAQ ,what happens almost in the entire
middle east. All the violence , all the terrorism ,all the wars. can be summarized in 3 short statements.

First the engine of the violence ,what fuels the conflict is not money or weapons this terrorist rebels receive from NATO major powers  or Saudi Arabia or Israel.
The real reason for this conflict terror and wars in middle east but also Europe is consequence of
sectarianism in Sunni Islam lead by Saudi Arabia and Turkey. through either ISIS.Alqaeda or muslin Brotherhood. So effectively. The Arab spring is nothing more than..

1)A reversed cruzade of muslins against Christianity (with NATO being the master minds of it and providing all the support and supplies and logistic and weapons they need,) to destroy ,invade and take control of any nation that welcomes Christian values. The Syrian war is a religious war ,between Muslins that say ,we will not allow any muslin to covert to christianity and muslin that believe Islam should not control the lives of their citizens and it needs to be separated from Politics and business.

2)A proxy war of NATO against Russia. Disintegration of Russia and the fall of putin is the real Goal and not Assad. ie.. Pipeline to sabotage Gazprom, ISIS relocated in Ukraine and baltics to fight Russia etc..

3) A war of Israel on Syria to get rid of his last strong adversary in the zone and to finally have a way to get rid of Hizbolah and steal more land ,reubicate palestine to Syria and take control
of Syria and IRAQ oil fields.. ie.. that is the so called Israel greater middle east.



So if you look at that map that is not fixed in stone , and it can change to become bigger since buffers zones will have to be created too for Jews to be safe inside of Turkey.. lol

So this means than Erdogan is being used too.. If Syria was allowed to fall ,to ISIS or Alqaeda, the rebels will not be happy with just that piece of land ,they will continue ,(guided by Zionist Israel and NATO who have the big money),Erdogan have been duped to think US-UK or France or israel ,will allow Turkey to take control of the oil fields of IRAQ and Syria after the west have invested so much money on the conflict and even risk prison for supporting terrorism.  ERdogan is without a doubt the donkey of the decaded,he was promised and expanded version to the Ottoman Empire from Turkey to Morocco and with Turkey leading it. But that was just a Carrot Anglo/zionist used to flirt Erdogan into starting such criminal aggression on Syria and IRAQ.

So this means that the fall of Syria will have been a death sentence for ERdogan ,since he will have lose territory too, since again Israel will take it all the oil fields and will not allow any muslin nation to control it. this take over will be done through the kurdistan..


ERdogan only chance to survive ,now that will have so much hate from Europe and America under trump is to go back to its senses ,and stop those dreams of returning to the ottonman empire ,stop supporting terrorism and go back and restore relations with Russia for real ,and stop its aggression to Syria. that will only create a multi polar world ,where they will be able to defend their nation interest and secure the prosperity of its nations. The Germany recognition of the Armenian genocide ,was the first Shot at Erdogan from Europe ,and a signal that they also can Hurt Turkey economy with sanctions like they never seen before that will sink totally its economy. And this is why restoring relations for real with all its neighbors ,including Russia and Syria ,is the only way Turkey have a way to survive economically in the future.

Brilliant work done by the SAA and co.

The jihadist have lost more than 45 percent of the territory they controlled last week.

According to a military source in Aleppo City, the Syrian Arab Army has captured all of the districts that border Sakour's northern and eastern axes after a swift assault this morning.

With the northern part captured, the Syrian Armed Forces can now turn their attention to the last half of the east Aleppo pocket; this will arguably the most difficult battle they face inside the provincial capital.

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/entire-northern-pocket-rebel-held-east-aleppo-collapses-government-forces-advance/

#Map. The (unconfirmed) areas handed over to SDF by rebels in NE #Aleppo.

I hope this is not true.

calm wrote:#Map. The (unconfirmed) areas handed over to SDF by rebels in NE #Aleppo.

I hope this is not true.

No no. It's false. The guys is getting grilled on twitter.
So far I can trust there:

Agathocle deSyracuse ‏@deSyracuse  2h2 hours ago
#Aleppo : Loyalist forces took control of rebel areas North of airport highway. Sheikh Faris, Part of Bustan Basha, Halak al-Tahtani for SDF

Hassan Ridha ‏@sayed_ridha  6h6 hours ago
A number of militants have surrendered to Syrian Army & are aiding their advance into east Aleppo, others have defected to SDF like in Halek

This is a pro-beardie map which should have mistakes:

Warfare Worldwide ‏@WarfareWW  45s45 seconds ago
Recent #SAA advances in #Aleppo. Map by Pro-rebel Step News Agency

^^^ Already SAA is changing that map.

SouthFront ‏@southfronteng  6 minutes ago
Syrian Army Liberate Talat al Barakat Area in Northeastern Aleppo http://dlvr.it/Mm7Wzt

A good comparison:

More developments in E. Aleppo:

Hassan Ridha ‏@sayed_ridha  2h2 hours ago
Syrian Army assert full control over Talet Barakat & the Scientific Research housing area south of Jabal Badro

Hassan Ridha ‏@sayed_ridha  2h2 hours ago
Syrian Army has begun operations at edge of Tareeq al-Bab as well as at Ma'saraniyah youth housing

I've modified one of the maps accordingly (NEW Gains):


and some interesting comments on the recent advances by SAA:

And Peto's new map.

Too me, it looks like that initial 'break the siege' a few weeks back cost the bearded ones dearly. The losses have been mounting ever since. Will be getting close to breaking point in there shortly.

crod wrote:Too me, it looks like that initial 'break the siege' a few weeks back cost the bearded ones dearly. The losses have been mounting ever since. Will be getting close to breaking point in there shortly.

There's still a lot of work ahead. SAA is already very late and hasn't really secured the city at all. The supply route is vulnerable, they need to consolidate in the south, try opening a second route there (i.e. capture Abu Duhrur airbase). Also there's North and West. Anadan, Haritan, Mansoura, Khan al Asal and Al Rashidin are all towns that under FSA can make life Aleppo miserable and basically keep it as a warzone. This way many people won't exactly return, the economy won't restart. Remember Aleppo was once the financial capital of the country, and biggest city by population iirc.

As long as these conditions are there, Aleppo won't be truly under firm government control. It will be only on paper, if East falls (similar to Donetsk city). But basically the whole map above needs to be red for things to change. At the moment it's about 50%.

According to this map there are 2 hospitals left in rebel held Aleppo... wonder how many times they will be destroyed

http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/b2be/0g7wp9r8yofp79nzg.jpg

I didn't expect things to progress so fast, might have this rapped up by new years.

AlfaT8 wrote:I didn't expect things to progress so fast, might have this rapped up by new years.

You mean wrapped up. I hope. Jesus lad.

Ivan is reporting something potentially ground-breaking.

Ivan Sidorenko
‏@IvanSidorenko1
#Syria #Aleppo #NorthernAleppo AL Akhbar Report about #SAA/Syrian national Resistance (Kurds + Arabs) #Al_Bab #AlBab
http://www.al-akhbar.com/node/268820

Or perhaps it allows the SDF and SAA to work together while maintaining their differences to the public eye.

For the Turkey visitors.. WHo believe in the bullshit their government controlled media
and leaders tells you about Syria. look what your Lovely Government have done
to Syrians.  Eastern Aleppo citizens ,that supposedly Assad was bombing
an hospital every day , are now fleeing eastern Aleppo in wheel chairs not running
in direction to the "moderate" rebels , but in the direction of the Syrian army to liberate
them from the terrorist Erdogan backup and have them hostage in their own country.


here video of civilians women and children escaping from eastern Aleppo ,from the rebel terrorist that NATO and Erdogan support.




You will not see that in any part of Turkey media or western one ,Because it will
show that civilians clearly calls the Rebels Terrorist and have them hostage for years
and now liberated by Syrian army.

It means you turks who visit this forum. How you will feel , If things were the other way?
If Turkey was not member of NATO ,and instead it was IRAN . and then America ,Europe
with the help of Israel and Saudi Arabia ,goes and send 70,000 fighters to your country from all parts of the middle east. And with IRAN key aid , betray ERdogan and use its border with Turkey
to smuggle endless supply and weapons to this terrorist NATO support and they began destroying your country? and raping your families? How will you feel , if you had the entire American/Zionist world against you ,then you under sanctions for defending from a terrorist invasion ,and then IRAN after 5 years of all NATO weakening significantly Turkey army ,then IRAN goes invades Turkey with Tanks with the pretext of "the right to defend from terrorist" attacking Turkey..  Completely ignoring the fact that is IRAN the one that send the terrorist .
So how will you feel if after NATO weakening your army and sending waves and waves of terrorist armed and trained by NATO to attacks your cities , they start creating "Safe zones"
,buffer zones" inside your country with the pretext of "protect civilians" in your country.. an
to create a buffer zone to keep terrorist far from your borders?

Erdogan and not Assad is the real war criminal. Assad is not killing civilians, he welcomes media
from any part around the world to see with their eyes and talk to civilians about what happens in the country. Assad have the right to defend its nation from a NATO/ERdogan/Saudi war.
What erdogan is doing in Syria is 100% criminal. Sending thousands of armed mercenaries
to take territory in Syria. and this is why Erdogan censors media and needs to consolidate all power like a king. Because he is afraid that when Syrian army liberate all the cities.. the mountain of evidence against Erdogan and Turkey government for providing asistance to terror organizations will be impossible to hide.

So when looking back to predictions before Russia went in, I had basically bet on minimum 9 months of groundwork before main goals (Clear M4/5, Take Aleppo, Clear Damascus, fortify Latakia, push towards Idlib).

I basically stand corrected it needed between 3 to 5 months more, mainly because of small PR move towards Palmyra and because well...SAA.

But otherwise WTF? With a rather average logistics route, small mishaps (Su/Mil35M Red on Red/T4 enigma/Raqqa) this has been going exceptionally well. And ironically it has been largely due to Assad himself. Without a firm grip on his own people, which is also due to his people accepting this statu quo, the Russian intervention would have degenerated pretty fast. And this is also due to the foreign sponsors of the "moderats" which have made a sectarian struggle out of classic overthrowing attempt.

Shukrane Amrika. We'll take it from here.

Also because f*ck you Camel f*ckers, we'll dance and laugh and you'll all be dead and forgotten:

Massive West Ghouta evacuation underway as thousands leave for Idlib
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/massive-west-ghouta-evacuation-underway-thousands-leave-idlib/


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