GarryB wrote:Yeah but many solutions on Rafale are light years ahead compared to MiG29, aeronautic technology made huge leap in 10 years that are splitting their original designs. MiG29K is still basically just old good MiG29 with certain improvements, Rafale is simply alot better aircraft there is no question about it, that is why i would like seeing for future carriers new platform, PAK-FA based or not doesnt rly matter.
What a load of crap.
Rafale is a vastly over priced piece of junk... for the retail price of one Rafale Russia could buy 5 or 6 MiG-35s and guess what... with thrust vectoring engines there is no way for the Rafale to beat the MiG in close combat and with a modern AESA radar and modern AAMs the MiG is at no disadvantage at BVR either.
The so called new aerodynamics of the Rafale offer zero advantage in real combat... the new stuff it carries around with it just make it unaffordable to most countries.
The so called superior design in terms of shape offer no real tangible advantage, while new engines and avionics means an older aircraft design can be every bit as capable as a newer model.
Rafale is an inciredible machine, same as Mirages were back in time. Mirage was often called out for overpriced too compared to US machines, however here we are 40 years later and they are still flying with great combat results though the time. They did alot better than their "affordable" US and Russian counterparts of same era.
And yes Rafale is overall better machine than MiG29K, i am very sorry but thats true. France always had great aviation industry not sure from where comes that sudden hate for Dassault.
I am not talking about price here, Rafale is overpriced mainly due to fact it was soloely developed by France, they are trying to find ways to get their funds back, best way, selling them expencive. Considering fact US built F16 Block 60 is nearing its price tag i still call Rafale far better deal.
And i was talking about global advances in aeronautics including engines, electronics, radars.. everything. Only real drawback of Rafale is still somewhat lacking armaments range compared to counterparts, which as we all know can be easily changed on request.