Hellenic Armed Forces: News

KiloGolf wrote:I just noticed the thread was AF only.
Could we rename it to"Armed Forces" news?

ok done

George1 wrote:

KiloGolf wrote:I just noticed the thread was AF only.
Could we rename it to"Armed Forces" news?

ok done

Thanks bro.

more good news on the chopper front:
http://e-amyna.com/?p=20483

Basically within the month we expect payment for the first 23 million for the 10 CH-47D and that the program contains option for 5 more (free of charge). The helicopters never deployed to Iraq or Afghanistan and are in good condition. Also there's talk about OH-58Ds but nothing else yet.

PS. am I the only one that believes that upon receiving the extra CH-47s this year, we should sell all NH90s and use the money for used Blackhawks and Kiowas Warriors?

KiloGolf wrote:
PS. am I the only one that believes that upon receiving the extra CH-47s this year, we should sell all NH90s and use the money for used Blackhawks and Kiowas Warriors?

i think its unrealistic. Then why not to cancel remaining NH-90 instead?
OH-58D Kiowa Warrior cant replace NH-90 and if we buy blackhawks we introduce one more type in army aviation helicopters and this will be too much.

I think the plan is to have 25 Chinooks, 20 NH-90 when deliveries will be completed and 12-15 Kiowa Warriors as scout-recon/light attack helicopters

I think we ordered more Chinooks because it is impossible to replace old UH-1H /AB-205 helicopters with NH-90s

George1 wrote:

KiloGolf wrote:
PS. am I the only one that believes that upon receiving the extra CH-47s this year, we should sell all NH90s and use the money for used Blackhawks and Kiowas Warriors?

i think its unrealistic. Then why not to cancel remaining NH-90 instead?

I don't think we can cancel at this stage, too late in the order. What I'm saying is selling out all 20 NH90s once they're delivered. Then get our hands on some ex-US Army UH-60 (ca. 40 of them) and progressively dump them Hueys altogether. With 25 Chinooks and 40 Blackhawks, the Army covers it the capacity need for one airmobile battalion transport, in one go, to islands.

PS. the chat on e-amyna talks about 60 Kiowas in discussion

Damen Stan Patrol 5509 OPV of the Hellenic Coast Guard operating:

Militarov wrote:Damen Stan Patrol 5509 OPV of the Hellenic Coast Guard operating:

A large enough ship, built abroad and fit for limo service of illegal immigrants to our country. yay
What a complete waste of money and resources. Meanwhile the other side's CG means business.

KiloGolf wrote:

Militarov wrote:Damen Stan Patrol 5509 OPV of the Hellenic Coast Guard operating:

A large enough ship, built abroad and fit for limo service of illegal immigrants to our country. yay
What a complete waste of money and resources. Meanwhile the other side's CG means business.

...Meanwhile Turdkey is the country most responsible for the migrant crisis (from instigating conflicts in the Middle East, to opening the refugee camp flood gates), and yet no Ewwwwww Country....err...E.U. Country has the testicles to hold the Turds accountable. But don't worry, after the Su-24 incident, the Turds are rushing back to their outhouse, oblivious to the fact that the Northern Wind has been accelerating the fuse to the Kurdish powder keg lying underneath it.

magnumcromagnon wrote:
...Meanwhile Turdkey is the country most responsible for the migrant crisis (from instigating conflicts in the Middle East, to opening the refugee camp flood gates), and yet no Ewwwwww Country....err...E.U. Country has the testicles to hold the Turds accountable. But don't worry, after the Su-24 incident, the Turds are rushing back to their outhouse, oblivious to the fact that the Northern Wind™ has been accelerating the fuse to the Kurdish powder keg lying underneath it.

Russia will demolish Turkey

new frigate to join the Greek navy with zero consumption ..

Greece accepts final Type 214 submarines into service

The Hellenic Navy officially inducted its final two Type 214HN diesel-electric attack submarines into service on 23 June.

The flag-raising ceremony for HS Matrozos (S-122) and HS Katsonis (S-123) at the Skaramangas Shipyard in Athens finally concluded Greece's troubled Archimedes programme over 15 years after it begun.




HS Matrozos , whose keel was laid at Skaramangas Shipyards in March 2003, was launched in February 2015 and has been operational since March 2016. HS Katsonis , whose keel was laid in March 2004, is scheduled for sea acceptance trials and should be delivered to the fleet by the end of the year.

Tanking Up in Greece - Athens Is Spending Far Too Much on Its Armed Forces

Government of Greece – Upgrade of F-16 Aircraft to F-16 Block V Configuration

WASHINGTON, Oct 17, 2017 - The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Greece for an upgrade of F-16 aircraft to an F-16 Block V configuration.  The estimated cost is $2.404 billion.  The Defense Security Cooperation Agency delivered the required certification notifying Congress of this possible sale on October 16, 2017.

The Government of Greece has requested a possible purchase of an upgrade of its existing F-16 fleet to an F-16 Block V configuration which includes up to one hundred twenty-five (125) APG-83 Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) Radars (includes two (2) spares); one hundred twenty-three (123) Modular Mission Computers (MMCs); one hundred twenty-three (123) LINK-16 Multifunctional Information Distribution System Joint Tactical Radio Systems (MIDS-JTRS) with TACAN and EHSI; one hundred twenty-three (123) LN260 Embedded Global Navigation Systems (EGI)/Inertial Navigation Systems (INS); and one hundred twenty-three (123) Improved Programmable Display Generators (iPDGs). Also included in the proposed sale are up to one hundred twenty-three (123) APX-126 Advanced Identification Friend or Foe (AIFF) Combined Interrogator Transponders (CIT); one (1) Joint Mission Planning System (JMPS); one (1) F-16V Simulator; upgrade to two (2) existing simulators; one (1) Avionics Level Test Station; Secure Communications, cryptographic equipment and navigation equipment; upgrade and integration of the Advanced Self-Protection Integrated Suite (ASPIS) I to ASPIS II on twenty-six (26) F-16s; Ground Support System, systems integration and test; spares and repair parts, support and test equipment; personnel training and training equipment; publications and technical documentation; U.S. Government and contractor engineering, logistical, and technical support services; and other related elements of logistics and program support. The total estimated program cost is $2.404 billion.

https://www.dsca.mil/major-arms-sales/government-greece-upgrade-f-16-aircraft-f-16-block-v-configuration

Greek military parade

The contract for the modernization of the Greek F-16 fighters

On December 20, 2018, the United States Department of Defense awarded Lockheed Martin a $ 996.775 million contract to carry out Foreign Military (FMS) modernization of 84 F-16C / D Block 52+ and Block 52+ fighter jets Advanced Greek Air Force version of the F-16V Viper Block 70/72. Work must be carried out at Lockheed Martin's facility in Fort Worth, Texas, as well as in Athens in Greece, and must be completed by June 30, 2027.

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3468445.html

Recently delivered US Kiowa helicopters

Greece will receive 350 American M2A2 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles and 1,200 M1117 armored vehicles

According to the Greek web resource enikos.gr, a final agreement has been reached between the United States and Greece on transferring 350 M2A2 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles from the US Army. It is reported that the Greek side has already formed a group of military specialists, which in the "coming weeks" will go to the United States to select vehicles from the storage of the US Army and National Guard, and travel dates are being coordinated due to quarantine restrictions.

Earlier in 2019, the United States and Greece reached an agreement on the transfer of Greece from the presence of the US Army 1,200 wheeled armored vehicles M1117 ASV Guardian (4x4). start of supply of the first batch of 800 M1117 cars is expected in Greece in the fall of 2020.

Greece’s supply of M1117 armored vehicles will be made free of charge within the framework of the US Department of Defense program for the sale of excess military property Excess Defense Articles (EDA), while the Greek side, in accordance with accepted practice, pays for the mothballing, repair, preparation, retrofitting and transportation of equipment, and also training personnel. Apparently, in a similar way, within the framework of EDA, the transfer of the M2A2 Bradley IFV will also be carried out.

Greece will apparently become the third recipient of the Bradley IFV from the presence of the U.S. Army - in 2017, 32 M2A2 Bradley IFVs were transferred by the Americans to the Lebanese army, and in 2019, an agreement was reached on the transfer of 84 M2A2 ODS Bradley IFVs by the Americans (including 24 for dismantling on spare parts) of Croatia.

The Texron manufactured the 14-ton M1117 Guardian armored car (Armored Security Vehicle - ASV 150) with a 4x4 wheel arrangement,which is a development of the famous Commando APC, was originally developed for the American military police, but was actively purchased by the US Army in the 2000s as its kind of "light MRAP" for use in military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan instead of HMMWV cars. In total, the U.S. Army purchased 2058 units, plus 844 vehicles of advanced M1200 aircraft carriers based on them. To date, the bulk of the M1117 machines as excess has been deposited and should now be transferred to Greece.

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4047059.html

Nice catch, cousins

Usual carpool maintenance or is something else going on?

I think we grabbed some Humvees from USA on this setup several years ago to add to couple of dozen we got from Israel back in the 90s

PapaDragon wrote:
Nice catch, cousins

Usual carpool maintenance or is something else going on?

I think we grabbed some Humvees from USA on this setup several years ago to add to couple of dozen we got from Israel back in the 90s

Partial replacement of obsolete M113s. Greek Army also lacks an IFV. Old BMP-1s transferred to Iraq or converted to ZU-23 carriers (for islands defense)

Greece will buy 18 Rafale fighters

Greek Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis, speaking on September 12, 2020 in Thessaloniki, said that Greece will acquire 18 Dassault Rafale fighters, four frigates, four Sikorsky MH-60R anti-submarine helicopters, and will also increase the number of armed forces by 15 thousand people. Fighter Dassault Rafale B (c) Dassault Aviation

Also, the package of measures announced by the head of the Greek government includes the modernization of four frigates of the Greek fleet of the Hydra type (project MEKO 200), the acquisition of new anti-tank and anti-aircraft missile systems, air-to-air missiles, as well as torpedoes for the country's Navy, and the development of capabilities in the field cyber warfare.

The French company Dassault Aviation, in a statement on September 12, confirmed that an agreement had been reached on the acquisition of 18 Rafale fighters by Greece.

From the bmpd side, we indicatethat reports of Greek negotiations with the French side regarding the acquisition of 18 Rafale fighters have been received for some time. It is not yet clear on what terms the agreement will be concluded and what specific aircraft will be supplied. Earlier in August, it was reported that Greece is planning to purchase 10 single-seat Rafale C fighters of the new construction of the F3-R series, as well as the acquisition of eight Rafale B / C aircraft of the F1 and F2 series from the French Air Force.

Greece is a traditional recipient of French fighter jets manufactured by Dassault Aviation as part of a line to diversify defense procurement sources. In 1974 Greece purchased 40 Mirage F.1 fighters, in 1985 40 Mirage 2000 fighters, and in 2000 15 Mirage 2000-5 fighters.

The four new frigates announced for the acquisition by Greece are apparently frigates of the BELH @ RRA project - the export version of the new French FDI-class frigates (Frégates de Défense et d'Intervention, Amiral Ronarc'h type ) offered by the French shipbuilding association Naval Group . In October 2019, Greece has already signed a memorandum of understanding with the Naval Group regarding the acquisition of two frigates of this type.

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4137791.html

The contract for the acquisition of 18 Dassault Rafale F3R jets from the Hellenic Air Force will be signed in December 23rd, between the MoDs of France and Greece, Florence Parly and Nikolaos Panagiotopoulos respectively.

Agreement on the establishment by Israel of a flight training center for the Greek Air Force

As reported , the Israeli company Elbit Systems, January 5, 2021 the Ministry of Defense of Israel and Greece signed an intergovernmental agreement on the establishment of the Israeli side of the International Center for training of flight personnel (International Flight Training Center) for the Air Force of Greece on the model of the Israeli Air Force flight school. The creation and operation of the Greek Air Force flight personnel training center will be carried out with the lead role of Elbit Systems.

Within the framework of the agreement, ten M-346 Master combat training aircraft manufactured by the Italian company Leonardo will also be purchased for this center. Elbit Systems will also provide maintenance and upgrades to the Hellenic Air Force's Beechcraft T-6A Texan II turboprop trainer aircraft, as well as the provision of simulators, training and logistics for the training process at the center. Aircraft M-346 and T-6A will be retrofitted with avionics from Elbit Systems.

The cost of the agreement between the two countries is about $ 1.68 billion and it is calculated for 20 years. The direct conclusion of the contract with Elbit Systems will take place upon completion of commercial negotiations with the Greek Ministry of National Defense.

On the side of bmpd, we indicate that, thus, Greece will become, apparently, the sixth operator of the Leonardo M-346 Master aircraft.

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4230380.html

Greece will receive 1200 American armored vehicles М1117

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4243144.html

Greece signs a contract to purchase 18 French Dassault Rafale fighters

bmpd
January 25th, 22:58
On January 25, 2021, in Athens, Theodoros Lagios, General Director of Procurement and Investment of the Greek Ministry of National Defense, and Eric Trappier, the head of the French company Dassault Aviation, signed a contract to supply the Greek Air Force with 18 Dassault Rafale fighters. The contract was signed in the presence of the Minister of National Defense of Greece, Nikolaos Panayotopoulos, and the Minister of the Armed Forces of France, Florence Parly. Fighter Dassault Rafale (c) Dassault Aviation


Of the 18 Rafale fighters purchased by Greece, 12 will be transferred from the French Air Force (it is assumed that 12 new aircraft will then be ordered to compensate for the French Air Force supplied to Greece for the French Air Force), and six will be newly built Dassault Aviation F3-R series aircraft. Deliveries are scheduled for 26 months from the date of signing of the contract and should begin in the summer of 2021, the contract also includes a package of technical and service support for a period of 4.5 years.

According to data presented by the Greek government to the Greek parliament during parliamentary approval of the planned deal on January 14, the contract value is 2.4 billion euros, and the supply of Rafale fighters to the Greek Air Force is planned to be made in three batches:
• The first six aircraft from the presence of the French Air Force by June 2021 (within six months from the date of signing the contract);
• six newly built aircraft for the 20th month from the date of signing the contract;
• The last six aircraft from the French Air Force are due to be received 26 months after the signing of the contract (March 2023).

Greece is a traditional recipient of French fighter jets manufactured by Dassault Aviation as part of a line to diversify sources of defense purchases. In 1974, Greece acquired 40 Mirage F.1 fighters, in 1985 40 Mirage 2000 fighters, and in 2000 15 Mirage 2000-5 fighters.

Greece is also negotiating with France regarding the acquisition of new frigates, focusing on the BELH @ RRA project - the export version of the new French FDI-class frigates (Frégates de Défense et d'Intervention, Amiral Ronarc'h type proposed by the French shipbuilding association Naval Group). In October 2019, Greece has already signed a memorandum of understanding with Naval Group regarding the acquisition of two frigates of this type. Specific negotiations on the acquisition of French frigates by Greece were to be held on January 25, 2021 in Athens by the Minister of the French Armed Forces, Florence Parly, but their results have not yet been reported.

https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4243244.html

First Rafale for Greece

https://twitter.com/Stam_Pittas/status/1411770714282246153