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lyle6- Posts : 1188
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Except the image seems to capture the incoming trails of two boats who seem to have arrived in a hurry... probably to deal with the problem...
walle83- Posts : 743
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Looks like China started decomission some of its Kilo-class subs. These pictures was taken at a scrapyard in early Jan.
Probably one of the older project 877 they bought in the mid 90s.
Probably one of the older project 877 they bought in the mid 90s.
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Mir- Posts : 1840
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China should give thanks and turn her into a museum.
walle83- Posts : 743
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Strange that they give away an old Ming class sub to Myanmar but scrap a more modern Kilo.
Mir- Posts : 1840
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Yes they also to rather sell JF-17's than the Sukhoi copies. Very strange yes.
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Why strange?
They won't get any added value by transferring a Russia made sub.
They won't get a juan back for spares&service, all would go to Russia.
Money talks, lads.
Besides, I suppose this Kilo is worn out to the last screw, including multiple unscrewing all the joints there for reverse engineering
They won't get any added value by transferring a Russia made sub.
They won't get a juan back for spares&service, all would go to Russia.
Money talks, lads.
Besides, I suppose this Kilo is worn out to the last screw, including multiple unscrewing all the joints there for reverse engineering
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I saw somewhere they in fact give submarine for port access in the country.
I guess they are ok by giving older subs but new ones isn't worth it.
This way they have new replenishement base, the country getting the sub is happy to have it for free and they can let them test a chinese sub and improve the chances to get orders for new ones.
USSR also did such things and ended with allies that turned their eyes to the west because soviets weren't giving enough for free. Then they realized what it means to have debts in US dollar...
I guess they are ok by giving older subs but new ones isn't worth it.
This way they have new replenishement base, the country getting the sub is happy to have it for free and they can let them test a chinese sub and improve the chances to get orders for new ones.
USSR also did such things and ended with allies that turned their eyes to the west because soviets weren't giving enough for free. Then they realized what it means to have debts in US dollar...
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054 with new radar (right one)
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Hole wrote:
054 with new radar (right one)
You can see differences between the two frigates. The one to the left will go to Pakistan and has a totaly different searchradar and bridge is seems.
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Two more Type 052D destroyers commissioned.
https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/naval-news/naval-news-archive/2022/march/11495-china-commissions-two-type-052d-destroyers-zhanjiang-and-jiaozuo.html
https://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php/naval-news/naval-news-archive/2022/march/11495-china-commissions-two-type-052d-destroyers-zhanjiang-and-jiaozuo.html
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https://asiatimes.com/2022/05/chinas-next-generation-nuclear-carrier-floating-into-view/
The CV-16 was to train crews for the CV-17; the flattop CV-18 will train crews for the CVN-19.
‘Today against China in the Westpac AOR, Super Hornets are all but worthless. Unfortunately, Big Navy didn’t have the foresight to require long legs and speed with the F/A-18 E/F. So, we’re now without an effective long-range, high-supersonic carrier-based air-to-air capability until presumably NGAD/F/A-XX hits the fleet, whatever and whenever that turns out to be.’
The CV-16 was to train crews for the CV-17; the flattop CV-18 will train crews for the CVN-19.
‘Today against China in the Westpac AOR, Super Hornets are all but worthless. Unfortunately, Big Navy didn’t have the foresight to require long legs and speed with the F/A-18 E/F. So, we’re now without an effective long-range, high-supersonic carrier-based air-to-air capability until presumably NGAD/F/A-XX hits the fleet, whatever and whenever that turns out to be.’
Last edited by Tsavo Lion on Thu May 19, 2022 7:26 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : add a quote)
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