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    Post  TMA1 Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:14 am

    kvs wrote:https://nationalfile.com/trudeau-government-threatens-americans-donated-freedom-convoy-vows-investigate/

    Trudeau Government Threatens Americans Who Donated To Freedom Convoy, Vows To 'Investigate'

    On Tuesday, Justin Trudeau’s Public Safety Minister Marco Mendicino stated that the Canadian government intends to target any American who may have donated to the Freedom Convoy protest effort. The grassroots movement raised $10 million dollars until GoFundMe took down the page and announced their plans to distribute the funds to left-wing causes. GoFundMe later backed down and refunded the donations after intense backlash.

    So much for the "free world".   Kanada is a toilet and unfortunately I am living in it.  


    Is there more than one channel to donate? There is one that I guess converted the donations to crypto to bypass. Hope they are on the up and up. Anyways because of this kind of pathetic wannabe tyrant bullying I am certainly going to donate now. That foppish ex-ski instructor is out of his element. He cannot think or act for himself and it has become clear he is a puppet for some higher entities or individuals. Because of this needs to be flushed from the political system.
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    Post  kvs Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:35 am

    https://action4canada.com/freedom-convoy-2022-updates/

    I think Bitcoin or any similar digital currency needs to be sent to specific "pockets" but I am not aware of them. The problem is
    that the dictators can seize those pockets. We already had a case of the government intercepting the stolen 'coin of some
    grifters.

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    Post  TMA1 Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:20 am

    In times like this we face the dilemma of trying to help and communicate with like minded people in a highly curated and censored media/communications system. A system of large monopolies that are inextricably linked to politicians, beaurocrats, and NGOs. Ironically this system almost perfectly fits one of the few agreed upon definitions for fascism.

    So as a result if you want to find something they dont like you have to dig for yourself, and even if someone helps you with contacts/networks you again have to vet it yourself. It's really annoying. This also brings another dilemma. Though in some ways this is good and keeps countercultues alive, it also means you will inherently bump into fringe movements. Some fringe movements are freaking awesome and noble, but everyone also knows those spooky kinds of fringe groups filled with feds and unibombers
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    Post  LMFS Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:36 am

    kvs wrote:An arbitrary mandate to reduce nitrogen fertilizer use by 30%.

    The lunatics have taken over the Kanadian lunatic asylum.

    Nothing against using less fertilizer, if it works that easy farmers will simply do that and save A LOT of money in the process.... so why to mandate it?

    These creeps are increasingly acting like 007 movie villains, sabotaging our societies for the fun of it. It is surreal Embarassed

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:42 am

    That is a bit more complicated than that, folks.
    The point to start with is the hard fact that 1/3rd of the global food production is wasted.
    ONE THIRD.
    Imagine that.
    The fact must be combined with the inequality of food distribution, worldwide.
    While the middle men's are dumping the whole ships of wheat into the oceans to keep the prices, people are starving in a place that would need a week to sail to.
    The whole global production brings an extensive side effects for the environment and people involved.
    Massive meat production brings a hell of really bad side effects. The fact that we enjoy our daily steak should not blind our optics there.
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    Post  George1 Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:52 am

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    Post  kvs Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:40 pm

    ALAMO wrote:That is a bit more complicated than that, folks.
    The point to start with is the hard fact that 1/3rd of the global food production is wasted.
    ONE THIRD.
    Imagine that.
    The fact must be combined with the inequality of food distribution, worldwide.
    While the  middle men's are dumping the whole ships of wheat into the oceans to keep the prices, people are starving in a place that would need a week to sail to.
    The whole global production brings an extensive side effects for the environment and people involved.
    Massive meat production brings a hell of really bad side effects. The fact that we enjoy our daily steak should not blind our optics there.

    In the US and Canada, the government has established a system which incentivizes over-production. This is a trap for the farmers
    since they have to produce more to make money but producing more drives the price down.

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    Post  LMFS Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:10 pm

    ALAMO wrote:That is a bit more complicated than that, folks.
    The point to start with is the hard fact that 1/3rd of the global food production is wasted.
    ONE THIRD.
    Imagine that.
    The fact must be combined with the inequality of food distribution, worldwide.
    While the  middle men's are dumping the whole ships of wheat into the oceans to keep the prices, people are starving in a place that would need a week to sail to.
    The whole global production brings an extensive side effects for the environment and people involved.
    Massive meat production brings a hell of really bad side effects. The fact that we enjoy our daily steak should not blind our optics there.

    The issue is not the steak, it is allowing food to become a financial asset. This should never be allowed, or only under extremely restrictive conditions.

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    Post  kvs Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:41 pm

    The bashing of meat production is pure propaganda. Every single claim about beef farming damaging the environment and contributing
    to global warming is a lie.

    1) Beef is raised on land not suitable for crops. Go ahead try to deny this. You will only look like a fool.

    2) Beef production efficiently sequesters carbon if it is allowed to consume grass but even if it is fed grain, that is still a net sink for
    carbon. Also, grain fed to cattle is not human grade and thus beef production supports other farming.

    3) Beef production does not "suck up precious water". This is retarded BS which counts the rainfall on beef pastures as lost
    fresh water. That rain fall is falling on marginal and not crop-worthy land you lying sacks of shit.

    4) Deforestation in Brazil is driven by logging and poverty. Stopping beef growing in Russia, Europe, and North America will not
    stop the loss of rain forests around the world. These rain forests are also under stress from palm oil plantations for "environmentally
    friendly" biodiesel pimped by the EU. Sugar production is another stress on rain forests. I have never hear the anti-meat zealots
    calling for the elimination of sugar production.

    5) CH4 emitted by ruminants is a literal drop in the bucket compared to landfills and rice farming. Again, I have never heard any
    anti-meat zealot call for the stopping of rice agriculture. Then we have the 800,000 ton gorilla in the room called the melting of
    the permafrost (land and sub sea) as well as clathrates. This melt is driven by the 30 billion tons of CO2 pumped from industry,
    transport and electricity production every year and not from cows.

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    Post  ALAMO Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:09 pm

    LMFS wrote:
    The issue is not the steak, it is allowing food to become a financial asset. This should never be allowed, or only under extremely restrictive conditions.

    Not sure how to understand that. Food has been a financial asset for ... like always.
    It was fully convertible to any other goods, as presented the necessary thing dunno
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    Post  LMFS Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:25 pm

    ALAMO wrote:Not sure how to understand that. Food has been a financial asset for ... like always.
    It was fully convertible to any other goods, as presented the necessary thing dunno

    One thing is to buy and sell food, another is to create ludicrous future markets and other global financial scams based on it, that take both producer and consumer as hostages and completely subvert the natural economic cycles of the food production. There are countless examples of such distortions in the world today and they are simply unsustainable. Bankers really don't know how to keep their tentacles out of anything, no matter how sacred and essential for mankind. They are the element that needs to be removed from the game, not the cows and not the farmers.
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    Post  GarryB Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:33 am

    Farming has to make a profit, but I suspect the intensive chicken factories with chickens in cages unable to move that are fed in place and unable to move about till they are big enough to make chicken nuggets out of is not farming, it is factory chain production, and is totally unethical.

    Free range farming can't compete with that in pure dollar terms... doing it that way saves money so it will always be cheaper.. but just as we can buy ethical coffee, we can also buy ethical meat and we can promote ethical farming with our money by spending a little more on properly farmed animals.

    The people who don't care and just want the cheapest are the problem... putting them in one of those cages for a day might wake them up... or it might not... not everyone has empathy.

    Even the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy touched on that point when they were in the restaurant at the end of of the universe and the steak of the day was bred to be eaten and to be sentient and convey to the customer that they wanted to be eaten... two of the more woke characters refused... how insulting... Embarassed

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    Post  kvs Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:07 am

    The penned up chicken and pork raised on soy and other such grains is laden with linoleic acid (omega-6 oil) which can be properly
    classified as a poison. I love me my chicken but the type you get at supermarkets is full of antibiotics as well thanks to the filthy
    living conditions. People who have access to free range chicken and eggs are now privileged.

    For now beef that is commercially grown is still not too bad except for the antibiotics. Modern civilization is drowning in poisons.

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    Post  andalusia Tue Jun 07, 2022 9:08 am

    This is a good article about why Public Transportation is so bad here in the US:

    https://www.vox.com/2015/8/10/9118199/public-transportation-subway-buses

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