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    Post  Hole Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:19 pm

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    Post  Hole Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:20 pm

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    Post  dino00 Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:16 pm

    Two new "Avangards" can take up combat duty at the end of December

    TASS was informed about this on Thursday by a source in the military-industrial complex.

    "The next two silo launchers (silos) with ICBMs equipped with Avangards can take up combat duty in one of the regiments of the Yasnensky missile formation approximately on December 25," he said on the Strategic Missile Forces Day celebrated today.

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/10277813



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    Post  dino00 Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:34 pm

    Russia is developing plans to transfer the Avangard hypersonic complex from Stiletto missiles to advanced missile systems, Russian President Vladimir Putin said at a meeting of the Russian Defense Ministry on Monday.

    “We have weapons that are not available in the world. This, first of all, of course, means hypersonic weapons. Now we are developing plans, how to transfer from the Stilet, on which the Avangard is located, to the advanced missile systems under development - a combat maneuvering unit, ”the head of state said
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    https://tvzvezda.ru/news/opk/content/202012211530-qXwxT.html

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:40 pm

    dino00 wrote:Russia is developing plans to transfer the Avangard hypersonic complex from Stiletto missiles to advanced missile systems, Russian President Vladimir Putin said at a meeting of the Russian Defense Ministry on Monday.

    “We have weapons that are not available in the world. This, first of all, of course, means hypersonic weapons. Now we are developing plans, how to transfer from the Stilet, on which the Avangard is located, to the advanced missile systems under development - a combat maneuvering unit, ”the head of state said
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    https://tvzvezda.ru/news/opk/content/202012211530-qXwxT.html

    Interesting, instead of only the warhead being maneuverable, this seems to suggest that future ICBM carriers will also maneuver in flight. One discussed future growth path for Avantegard would be not only could the 'bus' maneuver but the MIRV'd submunition could develop to maneuver too, utilizing Zircon's technology.
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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:47 pm

    I had already mentioned before that Avangard would end up on the new heavy launcher.
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    Post  franco Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:56 pm

    miketheterrible wrote:I had already mentioned before that Avangard would end up on the new heavy launcher.

    My understanding is that has always been the plan and the new launcher will deploy multiple Avangard instead of just the one on the SS-19 rocket.
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    Post  miketheterrible Mon Dec 21, 2020 4:00 pm

    franco wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:I had already mentioned before that Avangard would end up on the new heavy launcher.

    My understanding is that has always been the plan and the new launcher will deploy multiple Avangard instead of just the one on the SS-19 rocket.

    Yes, but I recall having a debate, I think ISOS a while back who said "nope, only for this missile" and I said no it isn't.

    Maybe it wasn't him. Have to go back in the thread and I'm too lazy for that.
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    Post  kvs Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:35 pm

    The little information we have on the size of the glider supports the plausibility of the plan for it to be mounted on other ICBM models.

    When Sarmat is deployed it can easily carry several such gliders. I think they could stack ten of them. Sort of like a lotus flower
    with the petals being the non-conic gliders.

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    Post  franco Mon Dec 21, 2020 6:01 pm

    kvs wrote:The little information we have on the size of the glider supports the plausibility of the plan for it to be mounted on other ICBM models.    

    When Sarmat is deployed it can easily carry several such gliders.   I think they could stack ten of them.  Sort of like a lotus flower
    with the petals being the non-conic gliders.  


    I would be surprised with 10 as the SS19 can carry 6 MIRV's but apparently only has 1 Avangard.
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    Post  kvs Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:19 pm

    franco wrote:
    kvs wrote:The little information we have on the size of the glider supports the plausibility of the plan for it to be mounted on other ICBM models.    

    When Sarmat is deployed it can easily carry several such gliders.   I think they could stack ten of them.  Sort of like a lotus flower
    with the petals being the non-conic gliders.  


    I would be surprised with 10 as the SS19 can carry 6 MIRV's but apparently only has 1 Avangard.

    The 6 warheads must be the large yield variety.  It was supposed to be able to carry at least ten 500 kiloton warheads.
    Also the Sarmat throw weight is larger than the Vojevoda.
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    Post  Hole Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:37 pm

    Yars and Bulava should receive Avangard, too.

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    Post  franco Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:06 pm

    kvs wrote:
    franco wrote:
    kvs wrote:The little information we have on the size of the glider supports the plausibility of the plan for it to be mounted on other ICBM models.    

    When Sarmat is deployed it can easily carry several such gliders.   I think they could stack ten of them.  Sort of like a lotus flower
    with the petals being the non-conic gliders.  


    I would be surprised with 10 as the SS19 can carry 6 MIRV's but apparently only has 1 Avangard.

    The 6 warheads must be the large yield variety.  It was supposed to be able to carry at least ten 500 kiloton warheads.
    Also the Sarmat throw weight is larger than the Vojevoda.

    The SS18 carries 10 MIRV's while the SS19 can only carry 6. The new Sarmat is to carry 10.
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    Post  kvs Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:48 pm

    franco wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    franco wrote:
    kvs wrote:The little information we have on the size of the glider supports the plausibility of the plan for it to be mounted on other ICBM models.    

    When Sarmat is deployed it can easily carry several such gliders.   I think they could stack ten of them.  Sort of like a lotus flower
    with the petals being the non-conic gliders.  


    I would be surprised with 10 as the SS19 can carry 6 MIRV's but apparently only has 1 Avangard.

    The 6 warheads must be the large yield variety.  It was supposed to be able to carry at least ten 500 kiloton warheads.
    Also the Sarmat throw weight is larger than the Vojevoda.

    The SS18 carries 10 MIRV's while the SS19 can only carry 6. The new Sarmat is to carry 10.

    The Sarmat has more throw weight than the Vojevoda (SS-18). Why did you dredge up the SS-19 when
    the discussion was about Sarmat?

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    Post  franco Mon Dec 21, 2020 11:53 pm

    Because that is the Rocket being used for those Avangard's being presently deployed in Orenberg and will continue to be for quite some time.
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:24 am

    franco wrote:
    miketheterrible wrote:I had already mentioned before that Avangard would end up on the new heavy launcher.

    My understanding is that has always been the plan and the new launcher will deploy multiple Avangard instead of just the one on the SS-19 rocket.

    Correct, Avangard was always default option

    Stiletto was used as placeholder because Avangard completed development before Sarmat did so they didn't want to wait and because they had 30 brand spanking new Stilettos in storage good to go

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    Post  Arrow Tue Dec 22, 2020 12:21 pm

    https://ria.ru/20201222/avangard-1590357744.html
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    Post  dino00 Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:08 pm

    MOSCOW, December 22 - RIA Novosti. The Ministry of Defense has published new data on the flight speed of the hypersonic unit of the Avangard missile system.
    It accelerates to Mach 28, follows from the "Main results of the activities of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in 2012-2020", which are at the disposal of RIA Novosti. This is approximately 7.5 kilometers per second
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    Post  dino00 Tue Dec 22, 2020 2:13 pm

    The Strategic Missile Forces received four Avangard missile systems

    MOSCOW, December 22 - RIA Novosti. The Russian strategic missile forces (Strategic Missile Forces) have already received four Avangard strategic missile systems, as follows from the collection "The Main Results of the Activities of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in 2012-2020", which is at the disposal of RIA Novosti.
    As noted in the materials of the department, the number of Avangard missile systems in the period from 2012 to 2020 increased to four.

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    Post  dino00 Wed Dec 23, 2020 11:44 am

    Russia’s 1st regiment of Avangard hypersonic missiles to assume full strength in 2021

    Russia has conducted five successful launches of the intercontinental ballistic missiles with these hypersonic boost-glide vehicles


    MOSCOW, December 23. /TASS/. The first regiment of Avangard hypersonic missile systems that went on combat alert in late 2019 in the Orenburg Region will assume its full strength in late 2021, a source in the domestic defense industry told TASS on Wednesday.

    "The first regiment of the Yasny division of the Strategic Missile Force will have six silo-based launchers by the end of next year. Therefore, it will be brought to its assigned strength," the source said.


    https://tass.com/defense/1238801

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    Post  thegopnik Wed Dec 23, 2020 12:48 pm

    Man I like to use some sources as references when either debating or writing articles, but a journo that says 7.5km/s instead of 9.604 km/s pretty much ruins it for me. Still thank you for source.

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