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    The Situation in the Ukraine. #25

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:24 pm

    Benya wrote:
    auslander wrote:Calling them a bit biased is the same as calling a 200 kilo rabbit mildly horizontally challenged. If you are going to post articles that you know are bovine scatology then you should preface the post with 'this is bovine scatology but for a good laugh....'.

    Since you say you live in Budapest perhaps you need to read up a bit on current Russian Culture.  If your governments keep on putzing around you better brush up on your Russian and your knowledge of Russia.

    Well, I have to admit that I was wrong. They are biased a lot. The title of that article was/is deceiving, since the Russians would never plot any terrorist attacks against any state. What I wanted to point out in my post was the russian troop movements, the russian military buildup on the Crimean peninsula. So the conclusion is that I won't rely on Informnapalm any more.. But then, what sources should I use? I mainly rely on TASS and Sputnik News, so I'm mostly trying to use as much pro-Russian sources as much as I can.
    Just call the site

    Informandfacepalm Laughing
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    Post  auslander Sun Aug 28, 2016 7:55 pm

    What Russian troop buildup in Krimu? This is a Russian island for over 200 years and there has always been Russian troops here even during orc times, lots of troops including Spetznaz and VDV. Most were concentrated in Sevastopol City and Sevastopol Region during orctime, hence the sudden grounding of landing craft on the east and southeast coast back in early '14 with Mother came to the rescue...at our request. It was Sevastopol troops who spread up the west coast to the orc border and the south coast to Yalta and a little beyond. The troops from the mainland were mostly in central and east Krimu from Kerch west and north.

    However, the Tigers showing up with Spetznaz to blockade the orc coast guard lager in Balaklava was more showmanship than anything else, in essence a long distance training op for that Spetz unit. For heaven's sake half of Red Army Krimu is in Sevastopol which includes Balaklava. How hard do you think it would have been to send a couple dozen veterans to the lager gate and wall them in? Do you think the orcs would have done anything? It was grandmothers and grandfathers who first blockaded orc Navy HQ on Rudnjeva in Sevastopol City, the orc ships in harbor, SBU HQ on Lenina St. in City Center and many orc lagers in City and Region. The orcs did nothing, they well knew not to screw with Russians, especially babushki and deduchki.

    You will not find actual unit movement infomations on the net except in rare instances. If you want info simply ask on this thread, there's plenty of info here.

    Now, since it's already on this forum here's a little light reading for you, a deep insight in to current Russian Culture and a little info about an op at the beginning of the revolution here, both fictional of course.

    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZGCY8KK

    https://www.amazon.com/Incident-Simonka-R-H-Auslander-ebook/dp/B01ERKH3IU

    I'm not asking you to buy the two tomes, just read the intro by clicking on the book covers. All good fiction has a basis of truth. Read and learn.
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    Post  Khepesh Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:57 am

    This could go in any number of threads, but as the war will be, or at least start in Ukraine, here.
    The current major exercises moved beyond the normal and today now include testing ability of industrial military complex, including even banks, to perform their duty to support the armed forces during war. Mobilisation of reservists is also tested. This is all primarily centered around southern military district and those parts of western, particulary Voronezh, that border Ukraine. The movement of troops from central to western military districts is not unusual in practises, but the amount this time is. During the exercises a comprehensive test of all communications and EW capability were also carried out. Heats up.... http://stat.function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12094234@egNews
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    Post  Khepesh Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:04 am

    Video of the fighting at Zaitsevo. Some showing damage in the town, school 15 I think, which has been targetted many times. Rest of filming done on NW side of Zaitsevo facing ukrops positions on the edge of Shovanka. Guy at start of film is just pointing out positions from where snipers fire, blokposts, positions of BMP/BTR etc.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:04 am

    Khepesh wrote:This could go in any number of threads, but as the war will be, or at least start in Ukraine, here.
    The current major exercises moved beyond the normal and today now include testing ability of industrial military complex, including even banks, to perform their duty to support the armed forces during war. Mobilisation of reservists is also tested. This is all primarily centered around southern military district and those parts of western, particulary Voronezh, that border Ukraine. The movement of troops from central to western military districts is not unusual in practises, but the amount this time is. During the exercises a comprehensive test of all communications and EW capability were also carried out. Heats up.... http://stat.function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12094234@egNews  

    Just read the full article. Is all that going on at the moment?
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    Post  auslander Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:06 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    Khepesh wrote:This could go in any number of threads, but as the war will be, or at least start in Ukraine, here.
    The current major exercises moved beyond the normal and today now include testing ability of industrial military complex, including even banks, to perform their duty to support the armed forces during war. Mobilisation of reservists is also tested. This is all primarily centered around southern military district and those parts of western, particulary Voronezh, that border Ukraine. The movement of troops from central to western military districts is not unusual in practises, but the amount this time is. During the exercises a comprehensive test of all communications and EW capability were also carried out. Heats up.... http://stat.function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12094234@egNews  

    Just read the full article. Is all that going on at the moment?

    Seems so.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:08 am

    auslander wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    Khepesh wrote:This could go in any number of threads, but as the war will be, or at least start in Ukraine, here.
    The current major exercises moved beyond the normal and today now include testing ability of industrial military complex, including even banks, to perform their duty to support the armed forces during war. Mobilisation of reservists is also tested. This is all primarily centered around southern military district and those parts of western, particulary Voronezh, that border Ukraine. The movement of troops from central to western military districts is not unusual in practises, but the amount this time is. During the exercises a comprehensive test of all communications and EW capability were also carried out. Heats up.... http://stat.function.mil.ru/news_page/country/more.htm?id=12094234@egNews  

    Just read the full article. Is all that going on at the moment?

    Seems so.
    That is not a cheap operation. Certainly sending out a pretty serious message. Just hope someone that matters is understanding it.
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    Post  auslander Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:15 am

    If they don't understand this message than the world is toast because of their blind rulers. You can't get much more clear than this.
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    Post  Khepesh Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:00 am

    JohninMK wrote:

    Just read the full article. Is all that going on at the moment?
    Video shot a few days back, but this is happening every day. The video posted yesterday of ukrops artillery positions in Dzerzhinsk being hit is probably from August last year, but they fire from there and similar positions by the mines and waste heaps all the time, they were firing from almost the same position, possibly with D-20, yesterday, and the day before, and the day before and on and on. It is why last year I was saying that damn Minsk and take Dzerzhinsk. Maybe not long, then Artemovsk.......

    Edit: Well, I replied to a question you did not ask, but I'll let it stand. In reply to the question you actually asked, we can only know what is shown or written about. Such a message from Defence Ministry should be seen as very serious, and that this operation is now so deep, indicates that there is not much more that can be happening in "peactime", only the scale could, in the background, be greater than shown.
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    Post  Vann7 Mon Aug 29, 2016 4:58 pm

    This is one of the major reasons, perhaps the major Obstacle for Russia
    to do a Full Scale Invasion in Ukraine.


    Look closely at the next image of time bombs that exist in Ukraine.

    The Situation in the Ukraine. #25 - Page 24 20141230_ukr

    So if Russia invade , The Nazis ,at CIA orders can blow up Ukraine reactor near Crimea..
    and later blame it on Russia airforce. just like it was the M-17 malasyan plane..
    blamed on Russia or Russian Rebels.. Provoking a major environmental catastrophe
    in the entire zone ,that will affect Crimea too and possibly Russia border.

    For Sure those nuclear reactors are already rigged with explosives.. by the banderites Nuland
    Nazis. And lets not forget who was the the American  Diplomat sent to kiev after their coup.
    The retired secretary state , who told once ,the killing of half a million iraquis was worth of the
    invasion.

    So the white house basically told ,will be ready for killing half a million in Ukraine
    if they do not get what they want .

    Right now Lithuane is in panic over a similar threat.
    that not surprisingly Russia is taking advantage..  

    take a look at this.. map of where Russia kaliningrad and Belarus very soon will build their
    nuclear power plants and with Europe support.. Wink

    The Situation in the Ukraine. #25 - Page 24 Visaginas-map

    Those nuclear reactors represent a major threat for Lithuania   In case they
    become so stupid to help NATO start a world war 3  
    .  Russia neither Belarus will blow them
    up for sure.. too expensive. But , If NATO dares to start any war in the zone ,it will complicate
    things for them ,knowing that even conventional weapons ,cruise missiles used against kalingrad or Belarus ,could spell a total disaster for their ally LIthuane. which probably they will not care ,but Lithuane will care for sure. and will give very powerful reasons to Lithuane to not help its own nation destruction.

    This means that fighting wars in places ,with nuclear reactors pose a major and very serious
    risk for the civilian zones near those nuclear reactors.  So for Russia to Capture all Ukraine will not be easy by force , will pose a major risk of a nuclear disaster. Because the nuclear reactors in Ukraine can be used as a weapon against Russia. This is because if Russia invade Ukraine
    and the Nuland Nazis blow up the reactor near Crimea.. Even if Russia capture the territory they will be the ones that will have later to use their money ,spend billions. So Ukraine in reality is a TRAP. a Black Hole for Russia economy. That will sink Russia economy and this is not mentioning the unrest it will bring to Russia the pro EuroMaidanuts if Kiev captured by Russia and Russia needs to stay away of it as much as possible.  and something very extreme have to
    happen ,like an ethnic cleansing of civilians of thousands a day or a week. For Russia to interfere directly there.. and will seek to do it through United Nations and EU support.

    So i think if Russia military is used in Ukraine to halt an advance ,it will be airforce precision but from distance  or artillery attacks cross border.  Those nuclear reactors are one of the major reasons why Russia demanded the Rebels to retreat once they had captured and encircled
    Mariupol.

    The rusophobics in lithuane are paranoid about Russia modern nuclear reactors near their
    borders.. yet they find nothing wrong with re-activating a nuclear reactor near Belarus border.


    http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160829/1044745037/belarus-lithuania-nuclear-plant-conflict.html

    So those nuclear reactors works effectively as a life insurance for Russia and Belarus , that
    the hostile nations in the baltics.. at least Lithuane ,will have second thoughts and more
    about supporting any NATO military adventure in the zone. against belarus or Russia ,because
    Those reactors can become weapons of deterrence on its own ,in case of war. For Lithuanians
    those reactors should be seen as necesary too because it will dissuade its Mafia Government from doing anything stupid and not being very enthusiastic about supporting any full scale war against Russia or belarus in the zone that could put their nation under a fatal environmental
    disaster.

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    Post  Khepesh Mon Aug 29, 2016 6:06 pm

    Well, it is not going to be easy, there are no illusions on that. But if it becomes necessary to rectify the situation in Ukraine, for the benefit of all, then what occured in Gulf War I could be followed. Then, when Iraq really did have WMD, Saddam was warned, at the time secretly, that any use of WMD and a major dam above Bagdad would be destroyed by tactical nuke leading to vast casualties. I certainly do not say that Kiev should be nuked, as that will be worse than blowing the NPPs, and absolutely will not happen, but I am sure that Kiev and it's handlers can be threatened sufficiently to dissuade them from extreme actions. If the NPPs were blown it will kill countless numbers all over Europe and lead to panic on a scale not seen in human history. Do even the loonies in Washington want that?. But then there is Hiroshima and Nagasaki, agent orange in Vietnam and napalm and thermobaric bombs used against civilians, two Gulf wars, Yugoslavia, Libya, Syria, Yemen, "color" revolutions, funny stuff in Egypt and other places, so yes, maybe they do want more blood, always more to feed their infernal machine.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:25 pm

    Vann7 wrote:This is one of the major reasons, perhaps the major Obstacle for Russia
    to do a Full Scale Invasion in Ukraine.

    ..........................................


    So those nuclear reactors works effectively as a life insurance for Russia and Belarus , that
    the hostile nations in the baltics.. at least Lithuane ,will have second thoughts and more
    about supporting any NATO military adventure in the zone. against belarus or Russia ,because
    Those reactors can become weapons of deterrence on its own ,in case of war. For Lithuanians
    those reactors should be seen as necesary too because it will dissuade its Mafia Government from doing anything stupid and not being very enthusiastic about supporting any full scale war against Russia or belarus in the zone that could put their nation under a fatal environmental
    disaster.

    Sadly, whilst an 'incident' at one of the Ukrainian TPPs will put radiation back in the headlines and seriously affect many people, the damage to life on Earth by radiation has already been and is continuing to be done.

    I know that VT can put up some wacky stuff of their own but they also post some very interesting items from other authors, one of whom is called Bob Nichols who is an expert on radiation. His normal items are reporting news on the radiation levels over the US, in particular how unusually high they are. Two days ago he posted a translation of the work of an Italian scientist that I found very sobering.

    In particular, apart from the conclusions, I was amazed at the number of nuclear weapon tests there have been with an animation supplied. It appears that the US, top of the test Olympics table of course, has conducted 1032 nuclear tests, USSR 715, France 210, UK and China 45 each, and a handful from the others. The French in bronze medal position was the biggest surprise. A total of 2048 radiation creating incidents, where most of the radioactive particles are still with us.

    On top of that, and not included, are the 'normal' leaks from other nuclear plants that we are never told about, depleted uranium munitions and then the failed plants like Three Mile Island and Chernobyl. Finally there is Fukashima, being kept as far below the radar as possible but still pumping out untold radiation into the North Pacific, where all the retaining plans have failed, large quantities of radioactive stuff is stored on site and they still don't know exactly where one of the cores is. I hope none of you are still eating wild N E Pacific fish like salmon and tuna.

    So, if you really want to cheer yourself up, this is where you go, oh and I forgot to mention that the radiation is seriously damaging our DNA as well.

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/08/27/poisoned-air-for-all/
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    Post  Guest Mon Aug 29, 2016 8:47 pm



    Well the MoD did publish a video of them moving equipment to Krim for the exercises.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Aug 29, 2016 11:06 pm

    By shear coincidence, more today on those Nuclear TPP. My highlight. No mention of those Westinghouse fuel rods tho'.

    Mihail Umanets, co-director of the reform committee for the atomic-industrial complex of Ukraine, and the former director of Chernobyl nuclear power plant:

    "The state of nuclear energy today is that we are facing disaster. I declare that we are facing economic catastrophe. Judge for yourself: out of 15 nuclear reactors, which today generate 55.7% of the total electricity in Ukraine, 7 reach the end of their service life within four years. Thus, it is necessary to recondition them.

    Extending the service life of a single reactor, according to our group's preliminary calculations, would cost 300,000,000. US dollars. Multiply that by seven, we get 2.1 billion dollars that we need in the next four years. I think everybody here understands what 2.1 billion means for our esteemed government. If they manage to beg someone for extra 200 million, it is already a huge, televised victory for them. So there's nowhere to get the required funds. And if you do not extend the service life, then by 2020 we will lose 50% of our nuclear energy, and by 2030 we will no longer have any nuclear power plants.

    Where can we get money? By the way, even if we extend the service life, but do not work on replacing the older reactors, we are again on the clock for the collapse of our energy production. I stress: this is about all energy generation.

    The reason I say this is that we have no nuclear and electric power reserves, because there are none left. 80% of our energy infrastructure is worn, worn to the bone. And the nuclear power industry today secures the safety of the whole country. Economic security. Social and political security, too. If it collapses, we will pass into slavery. Totally and forever.

    And our spent nuclear fuel is exported to Russia. All of it, from every station except for the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, which already has, thank God, a built storage site. But the remaining three stations all send their waste to Russia. Sent to Russia… but that’s not the end of the story. Yes, there is a contract between Energoatom and the Krasnoyarsk Mining and Metallurgical Factory Complex, where the fuel is stored. But that contract is renewed on a yearly basis. Reviewed every year.

    And said Krasnoyarsk Factory Complex doesn’t have a plant for processing of our fuel, either. And we don’t have the money to pay them to build that plant for us.

    And I’d like to tell you that we have an international agreement covering the operation. I.e. sending them our spent nuclear fuel. But there is no international agreement! And Russia can rightfully refuse, even tomorrow, to take our spent nuclear fuel. I repeat: they have every right to refuse. Nobody will blame them. Moreover, we will be blamed for transferring nuclear waste without an international agreement.

    I'm afraid that, as early as this winter, we will no longer have scheduled blackouts, but occasional scheduled power deliveries - and will constantly fail to meet that schedule!"


    http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/08/when-and-why-will-ukrainian-power-grid.html
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    Post  Vann7 Wed Aug 31, 2016 2:21 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    And our spent nuclear fuel is exported to Russia. All of it, from every station except for the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, ....


    Kiev Mafia ,with Washintong DC are planning something Evil with that nuclear reactor.. Why Ukraine send the nuclear waste of all their nuclear reactors to Russia but not the one
    closer to Crimea?  Wink

    Kiev does not have facilities to process nuclear waste and it makes no sense to store permanently those ,in a plant near Crimea ,unless they planning something completely criminal with that.

    Basically Kiev is planning to do a False Flag International incident with the nuclear waste
    from Zaporozhye nuclear plant... they could even drop it , in Donetsk and Lugansk to make
    unlivable the entire zone or simply if Russia invade and use cruise missiles , blow up the nuclear waste deposit and blame it on Russia.  Either case.. People need to pay close attention at the ZAporzhye nuclear plant and the nuclear waste ,they store there that can be used against the Rebels of Russia.

    In my opinion the Engineers of Ukraine ,were calling world attention of Ukraine nuclear reactors
    and specially the one closer to Crimea. That is storing a lot of nuclear waste and not sending
    it to Russia to a safe place and processing it and turning the used fuel in more friendly for environment.

    Other things Russia could face if Ukraine provokes a war and Russia invade is lethal Chemical weapons attacks on Russian cities ,if a major war start. ideally Sochi , or Crimea tourism resorts will be attacked.. because as i said Before..
    the war in Ukraine by Americans and Kiev it have everything to do ,to bleeding the Russian economy and turning Ukraine into the most Rusophobic state possible. and it have have nothing to do with defeating Russian army.

    So overthere in Kiev in office .. the question of what to do next.. if always the same.
    1)How can we damage more Russia economy?
    2)How can we promote more hate between Ukrainians and Russians?

    THis is the reason anyone who speak positively about Russia in Ukraine is Arrested.
    And Journalist who protest the fascist government die in mysterious events.

    So kiev wants Russia to invade, and later run a show another false flag where many civilians will be killed, and Russia and the rebels they support, blamed for it. So if Russia invade will face a
    skirmish war ,where the ukies will try to pull Russia more and more closer to the nuclear reactors.

    So is possible that Russia if forced to invade will do 2 different invasions one in donetsk and another near Kiev and try not to run beyond the buffer zone created by Minsk.

    So in summary what things to expect if Ukraine provokes a major war?

    1)Pay attention to the Zaporozhye nuclear reactor. Nuclear waste could be used as a weapon.
    2)Advanced Chemical attacks not only in Donetsk and Luganks
    but in economic zones of Russia.
    3)Biological Attacks too ,provided by CIA through a third party nation.
    4)Major terror Attacks on Tourist places ports in Crimea and Russia.
    5)False flag incidents where hundreds if not thousands of civilians killed and blamed
    in the rebels and Russia.

    I will not even be surprised if United States open a "research Laboratory " of biological
    viruses , right there at Russian border in Ukraine.. they have done this in georgia already.
    All this dangerous zones will become used as time bombs to cause a lot of damage in the environment in Russia territory. and the Gas pipeline to Europe that travels through Ukraine blow up.. any thing that helps slow Russia economy will be used.

    i first warned about Ukraine nuclear reactors in 2014 and still believe is a matter of time
    Kiev will do a terror attack on them ,when they believe the nation will disband and Russia will take it. Like the saying if Ukraine will not be theirs ,then it will be of no one.
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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Wed Aug 31, 2016 1:36 pm

    Are their photos of Azov battalion being trained by USA since the ban was lifted??

    Congress Has Removed a Ban on Funding Neo-Nazis From Its Year-End Spending Bill
    Under pressure from the Pentagon, Congress has stripped the spending bill of an amendment that prevented funds from falling into the hands of Ukrainian neo-fascist groups.
    By James Carden
    January 14, 2016



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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Wed Aug 31, 2016 1:39 pm

    Ukraine War:(Eng CC) Apt. building in Donetsk burned after being shelled




    Eng Subs) Ukraine War: Home destroyed by shelling in Donetsk




    (Eng Subs) A family finds their home in ruins after Ukraine hits it with artillery




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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Aug 31, 2016 1:57 pm


    What Business in Ukraine is Really Like

    http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/what-business-is-really-like-in-ukraine



    Mob in Ukraine Drives Dozens of Roma From Their Homes

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/31/world/europe/ukraine-roma.html?_r=1
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    Post  JohninMK Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:06 pm

    Sounds like a very unfortunate accident Smile

    The famous veteran of the DPR militia, Anatoly Gelyukh, has reported the destruction of a whole convoy of UAF armored vehicles at the Steppe station of the railway junction in Yasinovataya.

    “Intelligence reports have confirmed the destruction of the UAF armored vehicle convoy at the unloading station near Steppe village on August 27th, 2016 as a result of a broken air conditioner explosion,” he stated.

    Less than 10 km separate Steppe from Avdeevka. It is quite likely that the supply of new armored vehicles would have been thrown into fighting in the Avdeevka industrial area, as it was being carried along the railway leading to Avdeevka’s industrial sites.


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    Post  franco Wed Aug 31, 2016 10:44 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Sounds like a very unfortunate accident Smile

    The famous veteran of the DPR militia, Anatoly Gelyukh, has reported the destruction of a whole convoy of UAF armored vehicles at the Steppe station of the railway junction in Yasinovataya.

    “Intelligence reports have confirmed the destruction of the UAF armored vehicle convoy at the unloading station near Steppe village on August 27th, 2016 as a result of a broken air conditioner explosion,” he stated.

    Less than 10 km separate Steppe from Avdeevka. It is quite likely that the supply of new armored vehicles would have been thrown into fighting in the Avdeevka industrial area, as it was being carried along the railway leading to Avdeevka’s industrial sites.


    http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/08/explosion-destroys-uaf-convoy-headed.html

    Those air conditioners are dangerous... taking out a train full of AFV's! Suspect
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    Post  medo Thu Sep 01, 2016 5:13 pm

    franco wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Sounds like a very unfortunate accident Smile

    The famous veteran of the DPR militia, Anatoly Gelyukh, has reported the destruction of a whole convoy of UAF armored vehicles at the Steppe station of the railway junction in Yasinovataya.

    “Intelligence reports have confirmed the destruction of the UAF armored vehicle convoy at the unloading station near Steppe village on August 27th, 2016 as a result of a broken air conditioner explosion,” he stated.

    Less than 10 km separate Steppe from Avdeevka. It is quite likely that the supply of new armored vehicles would have been thrown into fighting in the Avdeevka industrial area, as it was being carried along the railway leading to Avdeevka’s industrial sites.


    http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/08/explosion-destroys-uaf-convoy-headed.html

    Those air conditioners are dangerous... taking out a train full of AFV's! Suspect

    True, specially those ukrainian ones.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Fri Sep 02, 2016 5:51 am

    In other news, Russia's so called "allies" wants to prop-up the Ukrainian bastardization of the Soviet legacy that was financed with Russian money! China now trying to get cozy with Antonov, meanwhile arm-twisting Russia not to engage in oil exploration in Vietnam's territories in the South China Sea, and similarly India getting cozy with Antonov, while demanding Russia not to do any business with Pakistan.

    WTF is this shit?!?! I'm getting fed up with this nonsense, Ukraine was proven with their contracts with Croatia that they're completely unreliable in maintaining aircraft but India and China are willing to sacrifice relations with Russia for things that aren't  even guaranteed FFS! Russia should start throwing out some ultimatums: Hey India if you love Antonov, you wont mind not having FGFA's right? Hey China, you love Ukraine so much, well then don't try to dictate who Russia should do oil-exploration with, because Russia's ties are historically stronger and more reliable with Vietnam than the convenient opportunist ties with China.
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    Post  Project Canada Fri Sep 02, 2016 6:58 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:In other news, Russia's so called "allies" wants to prop-up the Ukrainian bastardization of the Soviet legacy that was financed with Russian money! China now trying to get cozy with Antonov, meanwhile arm-twisting Russia not to engage in oil exploration in Vietnam's territories in the South China Sea, and similarly India getting cozy with Antonov, while demanding Russia not to do any business with Pakistan.

    WTF is this shit?!?! I'm getting fed up with this nonsense, Ukraine was proven with their contracts with Croatia that they're completely unreliable in maintaining aircraft but India and China are willing to sacrifice relations with Russia for things that aren't  even guaranteed FFS! Russia should start throwing out some ultimatums: Hey India if you love Antonov, you wont mind not having FGFA's right? Hey China, you love Ukraine so much, well then don't try to dictate who Russia should do oil-exploration with, because Russia's ties are historically stronger and more reliable with Vietnam than the convenient opportunist ties with China.

    I dont know about India, but yeah, these two (China & India) seems to overestimate their leverage over Russia just because it needs partners to deter American and Nato interests. Russia will need to maneuver carefully and show these countries 'their place' without alienating them too much (which would serve American agenda).
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    Post  Khepesh Fri Sep 02, 2016 10:00 am

    Impasse. Basurin has said that there can be no peaceful solution while the junta remains in Kiev, and that after they have gone Ukraine should become a confederation, the only solution other than total annexation of all or most of Ukraine except some western oblasts. Kiev of course will not even implement Minsk 2 and will not hand over power under any circumstances other than military defeat or revolution/coup. http://gorlovka.today/dnr/6143-donbass-predlozhil-ukraine-smenit-vlast-i-soglasitsya-na-konfederatsiyu

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    Post  Khepesh Fri Sep 02, 2016 10:48 am

    On a direct line talk with journalists, Zakharchenko has said that it Kiev attacks then the next time we talk will be in Kiev. He previously said this to Kiev residents on the direct line about two months or so ago. Zakharchenko also said that despite the "ceasefire", an offensive cannot be excluded and that Kiev has forces at the front to enable them to attack at any time without obvious preperations, something some of us have been saying for a long time. He also confirmed that VSN have been on effective permanent standby for war for the last month, that is ready to go at any moment on the defensive or offensive.

    VSN have held assault river crossing exercises. BTG of 1st Slavic Brigade. I think it is the volunteer from Texas talking in the background.

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