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    Post  Zivo Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:03 am

    Ivan Sidorenko's sources have reported massive amount of airstrikes on the rebel lines in aleppo.

    Some footage from today:

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    Post  sepheronx Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:51 am

    Terrorists are making claims to every advancement but nothing concrete so in other words, probably a lot of bullshit from them.
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    Post  Zivo Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:58 am

    sepheronx wrote:Terrorists are making claims to every advancement but nothing concrete so in other words, probably a lot of bullshit from them.

    This is the hotspot.

    http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=36.157212&lon=37.104049&z=15&m=b&search=aleppo

    From the battle footage at this area, the SAA appear to have held the 1070 apartments,  but the southern line of the 1070, kind of by the fortification marked "barrier", got hit by a large VBIED. This forced the SAA to withdraw north.

    So, the rebels currently hold the 1070, the SAA hold the built up urban area to the north, and the Artillery base/Academy to the east, with the front lines as such:

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    There hasn't been any new news for several hours, so the attack could have lost momentum given how small this area is. If the Russian aircrews keep the pressure up, this offensive could easily turn into a disaster. It just seems so hasty and high risk given the open terrain and the SAA's urban possitions, with the possibility of the rebel convoys taking losses en route. I wonder if when they got to the Aleppo front, they were under powered but were forced to advance anyways.
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    Post  Vann7 Mon Aug 01, 2016 6:32 am

    Zivo wrote:
    From the battle footage at this area, the SAA appear to have held the 1070 apartments,  but the southern line of the 1070, kind of by the fortification marked "barrier", got hit by a large VBIED. This forced the SAA to withdraw north.



    And again , and again and again and again ..  for 5 years , the same tactics used again and again and again over and over and over ,and with the same effective results.  The Syrian Army is NOT properly to deal with Suicide Bombers in trucks full of TNT.. You need heavy Armored BMP's or T-72s  ,heavy caliber fire from 45mm with automatic computer targeting and night vision , to deal with the very fast suicide bombers armed full of TNT.  And Russia is not properly arming the SAA. In fact Russia soldiers have been killed using this very same lame tactics. again and again and again.  Until RasPutin the genius NOT , give a hundreds of T-72s to the Syrian army , armed with modern electronics and aiming , the SAA will still be pushed back with ease by heavy and fast trucks armed with SUicide bombers. as i said a million of times Kornets missiles are TOO Fucking SLow to deal with very fast advancing terrorist in pickups ,just using heavy machine guns and Suicide bombers.  Then the Russian very small and tiny Airforce deployed in Syria  is obsolete to deal with such fast massive attacks when so many terrorist dispersed through a large zone. Only attack Hellicopters direct fire in meaningful numbers can do the job but Russia only deployed very few there in Syria.


    So Russia will need to do 2 things. they either provide T-72 tanks to Syrian army with
    upgraded modern electronics for fast/quick targeting at terrorist.. or Russia goes and deploy a larger airforce in Syria with way more attack helicopters. The terrorist communications are not
    even interrupted at all , they can coordinates their attacks day and night ,shows the total FAilure of Russia counter electronics..   IF Putin had any brains he will shut down the communications between terrorit in aleppo and NATO.. so they cannot get satellite information about Syrian army locations. Simply what Russia is doing at the tactical level is not working.
    Terrorist shouldnt be able to so easily over run any position ,by just having a truck and a suicide bomber.

    When FSA in 2013 captured Aleppo ,they did it with a mass scale invasion of thousands terrorist
    rushing to the city. TO deal with such mass waves attacks tactics , Russia needs to provide with
    high precision ,all weather ,high caliber computer guided direct fire ,because airforce is not really ideal to deal with very fast massive moving targets ,when they need to fly too high to avoid manpads.

    Look at the kind of weapons Americans use in Afganistan to defend
    against taliban.. very fast ,gatlin gun fire. it can also stop rocket artillery and mortars.




    Russia also could equip the SAA with Naval like gatlin gun fire to deal with very fast
    mobile terrorist suicide bomber targets.  But using Ak-47 that Syrian army have ,or
    the traditional soviet weapons and Kornets are obsolete to deal with very fast waves of suicide bombers. . is too slow and can miss. and any regular artillery attacks ,will only help cover in dust the movements of suicide bombers. Russia needs to look at how NATO deals with artillery attacks of terrorist or fast moving suicide bombers.  Because until now ,after 5 years of war ,
    the same old tactics of suicide bombing in armored fast trucks continues giving a lot of headaches to the Syrian army.

    In fact even CHina will do better in Syria. They have Microwave guns ,that will fry any suicide bomber without firing a bullet and before it gets any close to their site.

    again What Russia is doing to counter VBIED is not good enough. The success rate of very fast mobile terrorist suicide bombers in reinforced trucks is pretty Big and Russia needs
    rapid fire attacks with computer aided targeting. Because its airforce cannot fly low for fear of manpads and using lazer guided air to ground missiles to defeat a $3,000 truck is not practical.
    Direct fire precision cannons ,either T-72 tanks or heavy caliber gatling guns is the way to go.
    against suicide bombers. Regular artillery does not work well against mass waves of suicide bombers. Also Digging big trenches is very simple and effective to stop tanks or suicide vehicles..
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    Post  Project Canada Mon Aug 01, 2016 6:59 am

    Let me guess, when the RusAF or SAA decides to level positions occupied by Al-Nusrats they suddenly become Civilians and cry to the UN because Russia/SAA is bombing innocent unarmed civilians RIGHT??!?

    @Vann, what do you think is holding Russia back to update their fighting ability against these Terrorists? Im pretty sure the Rus Army has enough strategists to think about the points you mentioned above. So what is the cause of the delay in updating their tactics??
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    Post  Vann7 Mon Aug 01, 2016 7:53 am

    Project Canada wrote:Let me guess, when the RusAF or SAA decides to level positions occupied by Al-Nusrats they suddenly become Civilians and cry to the UN because Russia/SAA is bombing innocent unarmed civilians RIGHT??!?

    @Vann, what do you think is holding Russia back to update their fighting ability against these Terrorists? Im pretty sure the Rus Army has enough strategists to think about the points you mentioned above. So what is the cause of the delay in updating their tactics??

    Because Russia have a government that are masters in underestimating their enemies.
    and love to wait to the last minute for things to be very bad to do anything.  

    Something as simple as 50 to 100 T-72 tanks armed with modern automatic targeting could easily stop a mass wave of hundred of suicide bombers in pickups.  

    as soon a terrorist truck with TNT shows 5km away.. bang..  3-4 second later the truck blow up in a million of pieces using cheap ammo. they will see their speed attacks no longer works
    if the Syrian army shows very rapid precision fire capabilities to stop them.


    The most ideal weapon will be lazer guns, than in just 1 second will blind the driver and in 2 seconds turn into a ball of fire any truck  . But a t-72 with modern targeting will be good enough.  

    In more news.. Apparently one wave of suicide attacks was repelled of 2 Suicide Bombers trucks.. in aleppo. but no idea if this news is hours old and not related to the supposed latest gains of terrorist.

    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160801/1043815124/syrian-forces-repel-attack-aleppo.html

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    Muhaysani's terrorists that tried to lift the siege on Aleppo City are now under siege! LOOOOOOOOOOOOL


    Also, Syrian Army repelled the attack on the Sabiqah District




    Terrorists are making claims to every advancement but nothing concrete so in other words, probably a lot of bullshit from them.

    Probably some of those advances were real , but also a trap. They simply retreat from a zone
    allowing terrorist to enter and later trap them inside the zone they just enter. So they cannot
    escape or retreat.. this tactic was used a lot in DOnetsk Cauldrons , that they let the enemy
    take some territory ,to later encircle them. it also was used to completely close aleppo and castillo road. But it cannot always be done ,specially near Borders with other nations or in difficult to defend positions.
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    Post  Project Canada Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:52 am


    The US backed Terrorists seems desperate, I pray that this will be their last significant push in this war before they all fade to nothingness. SAA and RusAF should blast these rodents to tiny pieces! its nice to hear the Good news from the front, I wish Victory for the SAA all the way
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Mon Aug 01, 2016 11:30 am

    Mil Mi 24 downed, pilot killed. No other details, over Saraqib in Idlib.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:30 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:Mil Mi 24 downed, pilot killed. No other details, over Saraqib in Idlib.
    Looks like it was a Mi-8 returning from a humanitarian mission with 5 on board (from the other thread).
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    Post  Zivo Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:11 pm

    RIP for the five people on the MI-8.

    The Syrian Army is NOT properly to deal with Suicide Bombers in trucks full of TNT.. You need heavy Armored BMP's or T-72s ,heavy caliber fire from 45mm with automatic computer targeting and night vision , to deal with the very fast suicide bombers armed full of TNT. And Russia is not properly arming the SAA.

    No, all you need are mines, anti-tank ditches and a bit of foresight.


    Currently there are reports that the SAA is on the offensive now in southern Aleppo and are moving on the 1070 complex, advancing under air cover.


    This video is from yesterday, and depicts one of the terrorist rally points prior to the attack, they threw a ton of infantry at the SAA line. Hopefully they enjoyed those clusterbombs.

    https://twitter.com/HalabTodayTV/status/759834855052021760/video/1
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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:35 pm

    Vann7 wrote:

    And again , and again and again and again ..  for 5 years , the same tactics used again and again and again over and over and over ,and with the same effective results.  The Syrian Army is NOT properly to deal with Suicide Bombers in trucks full of TNT.. ...  

    Any moron with RPG can deal with SVIBED. Problem is that SAA are not just morons, they are super morons, the type of morons that make other morons look like geniuses.

    Syrians are being pampered and oversupplied. They should not receive anything bigger than RPG until units that know how to use equipment and who are willing to fight without runing away are filtered out and those that don't are killed off.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:42 pm

    Zivo wrote:RIP for the five people on the MI-8.

    The Syrian Army is NOT properly to deal with Suicide Bombers in trucks full of TNT.. You need heavy Armored BMP's or T-72s  ,heavy caliber fire from 45mm with automatic computer targeting and night vision , to deal with the very fast suicide bombers armed full of TNT.  And Russia is not properly arming the SAA.

    No, all you need are mines, anti-tank ditches and a bit of foresight.


    Currently there are reports that the SAA is on the offensive now in southern Aleppo and are moving on the 1070 complex, advancing under air cover.


    This video is from yesterday, and depicts one of the terrorist rally points prior to the attack, they threw a ton of infantry at the SAA line. Hopefully they enjoyed those clusterbombs.

    https://twitter.com/HalabTodayTV/status/759834855052021760/video/1

    Most of the Hikmah school AFV's have been treated and at least one group of of fighters has been cleansed from Project 1070.

    There's a big problem with the approach to Hikmah from Aleppo because it's flat open (from both sides). So actually for people who understand something, the logic was to get as fast as possible through the gap before most armoured units were killed off. In this they failed, they don't have AFV's coming in and they don't have the manpower to keep the corridor going.

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    Post  Shadåw Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:21 pm

    ANNA News followed the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) into the 1070 Housing Project, filming the soldiers escorting civilians to safety, while they prepare to strike back against the jihadist rebels of Jaysh Al-Fateh.

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-storms-key-site-aleppo-city-video/

    T-90 present in the Video, worth the short watch.














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    Post  KoTeMoRe Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:29 pm

    Shadåw wrote:
    ANNA News followed the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) into the 1070 Housing Project, filming the soldiers escorting civilians to safety, while they prepare to strike back against the jihadist rebels of Jaysh Al-Fateh.

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-storms-key-site-aleppo-city-video/

    T-90 present in the Video, worth the short watch.
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    Post  Resistance Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:30 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Shadåw wrote:
    ANNA News followed the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) into the 1070 Housing Project, filming the soldiers escorting civilians to safety, while they prepare to strike back against the jihadist rebels of Jaysh Al-Fateh.

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-storms-key-site-aleppo-city-video/

    T-90 present in the Video, worth the short watch.
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    How do you tell T-90A from early T-90?
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:30 pm

    Resistance wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Shadåw wrote:
    ANNA News followed the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) into the 1070 Housing Project, filming the soldiers escorting civilians to safety, while they prepare to strike back against the jihadist rebels of Jaysh Al-Fateh.

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-storms-key-site-aleppo-city-video/

    T-90 present in the Video, worth the short watch.
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    T90A...












    How do you tell T-90A from early T-90?

    Fuck off/
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    Post  zorobabel Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:04 pm

    Pro-SAA source ( https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/760121689317396480 ) states rebels are surrounding the artillery base, still control the 1070 housing project. So they are getting closer to breaking the siege.
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    Post  Shadåw Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:16 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Shadåw wrote:
    ANNA News followed the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) into the 1070 Housing Project, filming the soldiers escorting civilians to safety, while they prepare to strike back against the jihadist rebels of Jaysh Al-Fateh.

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-storms-key-site-aleppo-city-video/

    T-90 present in the Video, worth the short watch.
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    T90A...
    What's with the passive agressive..dots? Dosn't change the fact it's of the T-90 family! Which I'm correct in.

    Oh, and thanks for the kind comment very useful.
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    Post  Resistance Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:18 pm

    Has Putin intervened early in 2012, Syria would have never lost control of Idlib and there would not be war now. Putin messed up in Syria and in Ukraine. Please vote him out in 2018 and let someone else do the job.
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    Post  zorobabel Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:23 pm

    If they break the siege, that leaves over a million residents in West Aleppo in a dire position. The northern route isn't secure enough to supply 1+ million people.


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    Post  KoTeMoRe Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:23 pm

    Shadåw wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Shadåw wrote:
    ANNA News followed the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) into the 1070 Housing Project, filming the soldiers escorting civilians to safety, while they prepare to strike back against the jihadist rebels of Jaysh Al-Fateh.

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-storms-key-site-aleppo-city-video/

    T-90 present in the Video, worth the short watch.
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    T90A...
    What's with the passive agressive..dots? Dosn't change the fact it's of the T-90 family! Which I'm correct in.

    Oh, and thanks for the kind comment very useful.

    It's nothing "passive aggresive". I'm only correcting.

    This being a T90A means a lot. Sapienti sat etc.

    Also the comment wasn't directed to you, but to the multi-account bot-troll. Did you out yourself by error? If not hold onto your pants and mind your business. I got no issue with you.
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    Post  Shadåw Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:33 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Shadåw wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Shadåw wrote:
    ANNA News followed the Syrian Arab Army (SAA) into the 1070 Housing Project, filming the soldiers escorting civilians to safety, while they prepare to strike back against the jihadist rebels of Jaysh Al-Fateh.

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-storms-key-site-aleppo-city-video/

    T-90 present in the Video, worth the short watch.
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    T90A...
    What's with the passive agressive..dots? Dosn't change the fact it's of the T-90 family! Which I'm correct in.

    Oh, and thanks for the kind comment very useful.

    It's nothing "passive aggresive". I'm only correcting.

    This being a T90A means a lot. Sapienti sat etc.

    Also the comment wasn't directed to you, but to the multi-account bot-troll. Did you out yourself by error? If not hold onto your pants and mind your business. I got no issue with you.

    Well you could've said "Thanks for the link and video, but it's actually a T-90A" but no worries.

    Anyhow the presence of a T-90A indicates the presence of a certain SAA tank battalion/div(?) that aided in the southern Aleppo push awhile back, seems their still there and are now being used in a more urban-role.


    Hopefully we won't see more Jihadi-videos with a T-90A being taken out, but unfortunatly such happens in war.
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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:49 pm

    https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha
    https://twitter.com/leithfadel

    "Ramouseh Artillery Base is surrounded from 2 sides, attack on it is expected soon"

    Hassan Ridha ‏@sayed_ridha 59 min59 minutter siden JF have captured al-Shurfah & its surroundings from SAA & allies, situation at 1070 has not changed since capture by JFS"
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    Post  Project Canada Mon Aug 01, 2016 6:28 pm


    According to southfront the area where the Russian mi-8 crashed is under heavy bombardment by the RusAF, kinda too late I think, they should have acted more sooner before the bodies of the dead has been desecrated by the jihadi dogs. Now every jihadi corpse needs to be littered with pig shit and blood to get even and all their relatives (mother, father, brother, sister and children) killed right away! I wish a time will come when these stupid civilian casualties will mean nothing anymore so everytime terrorists capture cities you just level them with several dozen nukes and be done with it!Mad
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    Post  auslander Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:05 pm

    And if it's a Canadian city that is captured?

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