Syrian Civil War: News #8

KoTeMoRe wrote:Ultron is back, my posts get deleted? What? Not deleted, just couldn't post.

This same post as in Russian involvement in Syria thread ?

Turkish accounts on twitter claim there is a massive retreat right now from Kurdish mountain in northern Latakia. Erdogan is throwing towel in Syria`s coast land.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

zg18 wrote:Turkish accounts on twitter claim there is a massive retreat right now from Kurdish mountain in northern Latakia. Erdogan is throwing towel in Syria`s coast land.

Unlikely, Syria will most likely get split up into different "states". I don't see him throwing in any towel, unless those reports can be confirmed. I wouldn't bother with them.

maybe related to this:

Erdogan Sends Putin an Olive Branch

The Turkish president has sent a letter to Vladimir Putin congratulating him on Russia's National Day. The Kremlin has confirmed receiving what is said to be the first letter from Ankara since a Russian bomber was downed by a Turkish jet in November 2015.

“The letter came through the Foreign Ministry channels,” Sputnik cited Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov as saying. In his letter, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan expressed hope that relations between the two countries would return to their previously strong level.

Dear Mr. President. On behalf of the Turkish people, I congratulate all Russians on Russia Day, and hope that the relations between Russia and Turkey will rise to the deserved level,” the letter said.

http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/erdogan-sends-putin-olive-branch/ri14984

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

zg18 wrote:Turkish accounts on twitter claim there is a massive retreat right now from Kurdish mountain in northern Latakia. Erdogan is throwing towel in Syria`s coast land.

Unlikely, Syria will most likely get split up into different "states". I don't see him throwing in any towel, unless those reports can be confirmed. I wouldn't bother with them.

They have lost last key positions in Jabal Al-Akrad, without reinforcements their remaining positions in Latakia are untenable. And it is all coinciding with Erdogans letter to Putin. Aleppo is far more important to Erdogan than Latakia.

zg18 wrote:Turkish accounts on twitter claim there is a massive retreat right now from Kurdish mountain in northern Latakia. Erdogan is throwing towel in Syria`s coast land.

That would be a bit too easy...

PapaDragon wrote:

zg18 wrote:Turkish accounts on twitter claim there is a massive retreat right now from Kurdish mountain in northern Latakia. Erdogan is throwing towel in Syria`s coast land.

That would be a bit too easy...

Erdogan has cornered himself to two choices, either play balls or start negotiating.

Poland is deploying F-16s and troops to Syria. I do fear, NATO will attack the Khmeimim air base and destroy it. They know Russia does not dare retaliate just like Russia did not dare retaliate after Turkey shot down a Russian plane.  The Khmeimim air base is left with a reconciliation phone center. It is weakly guarded. Russia's actions have emboldened NATO.

Resistance wrote:Poland is deploying F-16s and troops to Syria. I do fear, NATO will attack the Khmeimim air base and destroy it. They know Russia does not dare retaliate just like Russia did not dare retaliate after Turkey shot down a Russian plane.  The Khmeimim air base is left with a reconciliation phone center. It is weakly guarded. Russia's actions have emboldened NATO.

They'll be slaughtered if they tried that sh#t, S-400, pantsir-S1, SU-30/35s, Club-m or Iskander-M/K, bring it on baby.
Yes, 1 old SU-24 shot down, launch the nukes!!!

How many accounts does ultron need to make to get an IP:ban?

AlfaT8 wrote:

Resistance wrote:Poland is deploying F-16s and troops to Syria. I do fear, NATO will attack the Khmeimim air base and destroy it. They know Russia does not dare retaliate just like Russia did not dare retaliate after Turkey shot down a Russian plane.  The Khmeimim air base is left with a reconciliation phone center. It is weakly guarded. Russia's actions have emboldened NATO.

They'll be slaughtered if they tried that sh#t, S-400, pantsir-S1, SU-30/35s, Club-m or Iskander-M/K, bring it on baby.  
Yes, 1 old SU-24 shot down, launch the nukes!!!

However, if they use HIMARS, that would be a problem.

Resistance wrote:

AlfaT8 wrote:

Resistance wrote:Poland is deploying F-16s and troops to Syria. I do fear, NATO will attack the Khmeimim air base and destroy it. They know Russia does not dare retaliate just like Russia did not dare retaliate after Turkey shot down a Russian plane.  The Khmeimim air base is left with a reconciliation phone center. It is weakly guarded. Russia's actions have emboldened NATO.

They'll be slaughtered if they tried that sh#t, S-400, pantsir-S1, SU-30/35s, Club-m or Iskander-M/K, bring it on baby.  
Yes, 1 old SU-24 shot down, launch the nukes!!!

However, if they use HIMARS, that would be a problem.

Not for the SU-24/25/30/35, Pantsir, iskander and so on.

KoTeMoRe wrote:How many accounts does ultron need to make to get an IP:ban?

Militarov only had to post wrong article for everyone to start shitting on him but ultron gets a free pass and blessing from the mods.

However, if they use HIMARS, that would be a problem.

HIMARS is just a truck with half a M270 on its back... Pantsir or TOR can shoot down its missiles and any model SMERCH can obliterate the launcher from 90km.

Militarov only had to post wrong article for everyone to start shitting on him but ultron gets a free pass and blessing from the mods.

Militarov posted flame bait and was told he posted flame bait... he was not banned or in any way prevented from posting here... you try to make it sound like he was driven away or crucified or some fucking thing... get over it.

I have not, and will not ban people for posting stupid shit... no matter who posts it. I will criticise when stupid shit is posted but unless a rule is broken I wont even consider banning anyone... deal with it.

GarryB wrote:

However, if they use HIMARS, that would be a problem.

HIMARS is just a truck with half a M270 on its back... Pantsir or TOR can shoot down its missiles and any model SMERCH can obliterate the launcher from 90km.

Militarov only had to post wrong article for everyone to start shitting on him but ultron gets a free pass and blessing from the mods.

Militarov posted flame bait and was told he posted flame bait... he was not banned or in any way prevented from posting here... you try to make it sound like he was driven away or crucified or some fucking thing... get over it.

I have not, and will not ban people for posting stupid shit... no matter who posts it. I will criticise when stupid shit is posted but unless a rule is broken I wont even consider banning anyone... deal with it.

Multiple sock-puppet accounts are permitted?

Russia announces ceasefire in Aleppo. No. Russia has no control over what happens in Syria. There are no peacekeepers in Syria like there are in Donbas.

There is unconfirmed report of Russia offering collaboration with FSA in northern Aleppo against SDF and IS.

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Resistance wrote:Russia announces ceasefire in Aleppo. No. Russia has no control over what happens in Syria. There are no peacekeepers in Syria like there are in Donbas.

They could just be wanting to deal with Raqqa first rather then risk two fronts the SAA isn't big enough to handle two major fronts. You gotta remember russia only has Air Forces in Syria not ground troops.

Raqqa and Aleppo are both important. Aleppo is more important. Rebels in Aleppo get TOWs from Turkey. IS is comparably very weak compared to Aleppo rebels.

Resistance wrote:

SeigSoloyvov wrote:

Resistance wrote:Russia announces ceasefire in Aleppo. No. Russia has no control over what happens in Syria. There are no peacekeepers in Syria like there are in Donbas.

They could just be wanting to deal with Raqqa first rather then risk two fronts the SAA isn't big enough to handle two major fronts. You gotta remember russia only has Air Forces in Syria not ground troops.

Raqqa and Aleppo are both important. Aleppo is more important. Rebels in Aleppo get TOWs from Turkey. IS is comparably very weak compared to Aleppo rebels.

Aleppo is eventually lost the way it is already ,for Rebels terrorist. You cannot effectively live
in a city where the only entry is withing artillery fire of Syria army and Syria and Russia airforce.
The only benefit in real practice that will bring to Syria to capture the small part in aleppo city not yet captured , is to liberate some resources and move them to another front. but also Symbolical too .Capturing all Latakia and Idlib will make more sense since will push terrorist away from Russia airforce positions.  RAQQA  if captured will be more to block NATO from taking it.

All things said. if Syria and Russia continues pushing at the same rate and do not lose major territory,then eventually any part still in control by terrorist will be a failed zone , that will not have water or electricity and all basic supplies including water will have to come from Turkey.
Terrorist in those zones will get tired of such living conditions and will leave.


So the situation in aleppo Already is like the western bank in palestine.



it will be a total failed zone , under siege ,landlocked ,that will 100% depend on Turkey for every little thing. So as long Russia and Syria hold the siege ,terrorist will break sooner or later since Russia and Syria control the airspace over aleppo and the city is encircled.  when it comes to RAQQA and Idlib more failed states ,it will depend on Turkey for 100% of the supplies. albeit
the conditions for living in idlib will be better but will be a temporary thing. Until Terrorist remove Russia airforce and Syria Government from power ,they will continue retaking 100%
of all their territories little by little inch by inch. Just like Israel is doing in palestine.

So even more than Palestine ,that is backed by UN , as long Syria hold and Russia stay in control of airspace ,the zones of rebels will be doomed to vanish. Turkey economy will sink and will be unable to continue financing the terrorist.

Syrian Army closes on the Turkish border

https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-closes-turkish-border-map/

is it just me or sudden progress is being made in Latakia and rebels fleeing towns i am sure something is going on and the rebels and Turkey cant be trusted.