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    Udaloy and Sovremennyy destroyers

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    Post  GarryB Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:43 am

    They certainly tested angled UKSK launch tubes, but I am not aware of any results so far.

    I rather suspect angled launch tubes direct missiles in a specific direction which probably does not matter for the very long range land attack missiles, but for the anti sub weapons the ability to head in any direction at launch is probably quite valuable.

    Probably the main ship to need angled launchers would be the Slava class cruisers simply because their existing Vulcan missiles use heavily angle launch tubes already and there is no under deck space for missiles.

    Moskit is an excellent missile but still sort of half way between a Granit and an Onyx in terms of weight and much shorter legs than either missile.

    Moving forward with UKSK would make sense.
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    Post  Isos Sun Jul 11, 2021 10:47 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Isos wrote:...What I don't understand is that we saw pictures of angled UKSK yet they don't put them on Udaloys. I doubt they will put them on Slava since they won't upgrade them and small shis are getting 16 urans instead.

    That angled UKSK never went beyond basic test phase, there will be no angled UKSK

    Slavas will probably just get adapters for their missile tubes to fit Onyx/Kalibr same as Oscar SSGNs

    They are working on it so it may end up on ships.

    Why would you use an adaptaters for a Slava. Just switch for a new launchers. They are externally mounted it's easier than adaptating the old launchers for new missiles and can use 2-3 times more missiles.

    On Oscars you need to cut the sub to switch for new launchers that's why they will use adaptaters which is less costly.

    GarryB wrote:
    I rather suspect angled launch tubes direct missiles in a specific direction which probably does not matter for the very long range land attack missiles, but for the anti sub weapons the ability to head in any direction at launch is probably quite valuable.

    Udaloys have that problem with their old missiles. Modernization give them 2 vertical UKSK that can be used for anti sub missiles. Two angled could be used for ASM only.


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    Post  Hole Mon Jul 12, 2021 12:24 pm

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    Indian Kashin (now retired) with BrahMos missiles instead of the old SS-N-2. The same could be done to the Slavas. Remove the huge canisters for the P-500/-1000 missiles and replace them with smaller launchers.
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    Post  Isos Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:03 pm

    They already modernized one Slava with a new radar but didn't replace the launchers.

    I think they will never be modernized deeply with new missiles. But replaced at some point by Gorshkovs.
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    Post  Hole Mon Jul 12, 2021 8:08 pm

    Because the P-1000 is a pretty impressive missile.

    I would love to see a hypersonic missile the size of the P-500/-700/-1000. Twisted Evil

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    Post  GarryB Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:57 am

    Vulcan might still be able to be produced, but it makes sense in terms of commonality and standardisation as well as flexibility to use a now standard launcher on everything you possibly can.

    Otherwise upgraded Slavas will need stocks of Vulcan missiles in every base they deploy from or near so they can be resupplied from that base.

    With Vulcan it might be a problem but with UKSK launchers then all the standard missiles should be available.
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    Post  owais.usmani Mon Jul 19, 2021 4:03 pm

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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat Sep 04, 2021 3:53 am

    It sounds like the Pr 1155.1 Adm Chabanenko has been moved to Nerpa for a continuation of her repairs. Adds evidence to the idea that the Navy has finally decided what they want to do with her and have ponied up the cash? IMHO they have upgraded the work from repair to at least a partial modernisation. UKSK, A-192M arty plus electronics would seem a minimum, but an upgrade to her Khinzal/Tor would be advisable.

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