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    Post  TheArmenian on Mon Jan 06, 2020 11:20 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
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    There are only 6 Udaloys and 8 Sovremennys, so at least Russia will finally have some decent ships bigger than Corvettes in the double digits. Rolling Eyes

    6 Udalois and 1 Sovremenny, all others are retired and this last one will be soon as well


    Check your numbers
    As of today, there are 9 Udaloys in service (7 active + 2 being modernized) and 4 Sovremennys in service (2 active + 2 being repaired).
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    Post  Big_Gazza on Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:51 am

    AFAIK the info in wikipedia is correct, ie:

    Udaloys (9):

    Kulakov - Northern Fleet
    Severomorsk - Northern Fleet
    Levchenko - Northern Fleet
    Kharlamov - Northern Fleet
    Chabanenko (modernisation) - Northern Fleet
    Tributs - Pacific Fleet
    Vinogradov - Pacific Fleet
    Panteleyev - Pacific Fleet
    Shaposhnikov (modernisation) - Pacific Fleet

    Sovs (4):

    Ushakov - Northern Fleet
    Burnyy (overhaul) - Pacific Fleet
    Bystryy - Pacific Fleet
    Nastoychivyy (overhaul) - Baltic Fleet

    The Sovs don't have a lot of life left in them, and modernisation would be a waste of coin, but they could continue to serve for another decade or so if needed.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Tue Jan 07, 2020 12:56 am

    TheArmenian wrote:....Check your numbers
    As of today, there are 9 Udaloys in service (7 active + 2 being modernized) and 4 Sovremennys in service (2 active + 2 being repaired).


    Was talking about Sovremenis primarily

    4 is alright but they are definitely on their way out, one is already a museum ship in Krondstat (Bespokoynyy)


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    Post  GarryB on Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:02 am

    The Sovs were impressive looking ships with well balanced armament. Their propulsion was not great, but if they can solve those issues I am sure they would be useful for the next 20 years so that new bigger ships wont be so urgently required and they can take the time to get them right.

    I seem to remember someone mentioning that they had over 1,000 x 130mm rounds for sustained naval gunfire support roles, and of course their main missile armament is optimised to penetrate an AEGIS class cruisers defences...
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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:00 am


    Fresh photos of Shaposhvikov

    It will be getting new A-190 100mm main gun according to forums

    Looks like new radar is installed, CIWS is under tarps and looks like it's not previous model but I could be wrong

    That's all I got, anyone else noticed anything new?

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    Post  Isos on Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:12 am

    It seems they have "closed" the area where we supposed kh-35 launchers will be installed (former missile pad).
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    Post  DerWolf on Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:21 am

    Is it going to get Calibr cruise missiles?
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    Post  Isos on Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:17 pm

    DerWolf wrote:Is it going to get Calibr cruise missiles?

    Yes. 16 cells cells behind the gun.
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    Post  Hole on Fri Mar 13, 2020 5:30 pm

    RBU is also covered.
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    Post  Big_Gazza on Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:01 am

    Isos wrote:It seems they have "closed" the area where we supposed kh-35 launchers will be installed (former missile pad).

    Not so much closed as a blast barrier has been installed so that the area behind the launcher can be utilised. There looks to be some structures on the bulkhead forwards of the wall that might be part of the Uran launcher fixings.
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    Post  Isos on Sat Mar 14, 2020 11:22 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    Isos wrote:It seems they have "closed" the area where we supposed kh-35 launchers will be installed (former missile pad).

    Not so much closed as a blast barrier has been installed so that the area behind the launcher can be utilised.  There looks to be some structures on the bulkhead forwards of the wall that might be part of the Uran launcher fixings.

    How would you put the missile behind the blast barrier ? Maybe turn them 90° to fire on the sides but unlikely.

    The structure seem to be for allowing people going up to check the uksk and not a launch pad.

    It would be rather stupid to not install new missiles where formers were.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:46 pm

    Isos wrote:...How would you put the missile behind the blast barrier ? Maybe turn them 90° to fire on the sides but unlikely....

    It's very likely

    90° is standard setting for that type of launchers

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    Post  Isos on Sun Mar 15, 2020 12:02 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Isos wrote:...How would you put the missile behind the blast barrier ? Maybe turn them 90° to fire on the sides but unlikely....

    It's very likely

    90° is standard setting for that type of launchers


    There is no space for that. Uran is almost 5m long. Moreover the opening in the sides is to small to allow a 4 tube uran launcher. They would have cut the structure if it was the case.
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    Post  Isos on Sun Mar 15, 2020 12:17 am

    Well this might be the Uran launcher place actually. I thought it was to much angled and the front structure would be in the way of the missile.

    That's nice and great power up.

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    Post  GarryB on Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:15 am

    Those areas we are talking about had Metel missiles located there that are enormous compared with the Uran... you could probably fit two quad launchers for the Uran in that space... one forward of the other both angled up and out off centre... that would be 16 missiles if both sides had the same loadout... a useful backup...

    They could even put a modular angled launch mount that can carry Uran or Medvedevka ballistic anti sub rockets...
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    Post  PapaDragon on Wed Apr 08, 2020 9:54 pm


    Udaloi II-class destroyer Admiral Chebanenko is also undergoing upgrades and getting UKSK bank installed

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    Post  walle83 on Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:04 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Udaloi II-class destroyer Admiral Chebanenko is also undergoing upgrades and getting UKSK bank installed

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    Chebanenko has been under repair for some time now. Not been active since 2013 I belive.
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sat Apr 25, 2020 11:39 am


    Marshal Shaposhnikov is slated to complete upgrades and return to service before the end of the year

    https://topwar.ru/170563-tof-rasschityvaet-poluchit-fregat-marshal-shaposhnikov-do-konca-goda.html


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    Post  PapaDragon on Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:06 am


    Sovremenii-class destroyer Burny will be decommissioned

    https://balabin-1712.livejournal.com/38578.html

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    Post  Big_Gazza on Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:30 am

    No surprise, as she's in lousy shape. AFAIK she is only used as a floating barracks for the Shaposnikovs crew while she completes her refit.
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    Post  TheArmenian on Thu May 21, 2020 12:34 am

    Marshal Shaposhnikov will start trials during 2nd half of 2020

    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/8514237

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