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    Taliban insurgency in Afghanistan

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Aug 16, 2021 12:45 am

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    Taliban fighters entered the presidential palace in Kabul, according to Reuters.

    Dr. Drexluddin Khan Spiveyzai Kayani (Drexy Baba)
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    Btw all districts in #Kabul province fell to #Taliban earlier today #Afghanistan


    Meanwhile in Washington

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    At a minimum, President Biden must unleash American air power to destroy every Taliban fighter in the vicinity of Kabul until we can save our fellow Americans. Anything less will further confirm Joe Biden’s impotence to the world.
    https://cotton.senate.gov/news/press-rel



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    #US spent $88 billion dollars training 300,000 Afghan Army for 20 years and it has collapsed in one week, less than the Iraqi army's collapse for the obvious reason: Iraqi Army members were trained only for 11 years and collapsed in 3 days.

    The proportion is quite right.

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:02 am

    It looks like the US/UK left it too late to get those large numbers of troops into Kabul, just a few hundred. Mind you it looks like they aren't needed.

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    🇺🇲Flag of Afghanistan⚡Battalion from 82nd Airborne (1,000 soldiers) is being redirected to go straight to Kabul instead of Kuwait according to a Defense official

    Where will these 5,000 soldiers sent by Biden land? On the heads of the Taliban, aki space marines?

    Servicemen of the 16th Airborne Assault Brigade of Great Britain on the way to Kabul

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    According to sources in Kabul, Taliban forces engulfed Kabul airport from both north and south.

    The Turkish army, due to strong desire, failed to teleport to Kabul airport. The Taliban ruined the plans, both for them and for the US

    6h
    Taliban completely surrounded Kabul and enter the airport

    2h
    group of military transport aircraft of the US Air Force participating in the Kabul air bridge received a military transport aircraft C-130

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    3 thousand US troops are ready to be sent from Kuwait to Afghanistan to ensure the evacuation of American citizens (about 2.5 hours flying). However, there is no safe airfield to receive them

    Kabul airport hosting the U.S. Embassy comes under fire - the Embassy statement.

    US military to take control of Kabul airport in coming hours to improve air traffic

    The Intel Crab
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    Insane footage from the tarmac of KBL shows people boarding a RAF C-17. No order. Total chaos.

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    No departures from Kabul's Hamid Karzai International Airport in recent minutes, according to flightradar24 data.

    Ministry of Defence 🇬🇧
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    British forces are in Kabul assisting the evacuation of British Nationals and former British staff as part of Operation PITTING.


    NOTE video shows Voyager leaving UK and a C-17 full of UK troops in disembarking in Kabul.

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    All commercial flights from the Kabul International Airport suspended, only military aircraft allowed to operate, NATO official stated.

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Aug 16, 2021 2:31 am

    Utter shitshow







    Lot of people trying desperately to find a country that will take them. Heartbreaking






    And some are just in denial



    Meanwhile Afghan President turned acting mayor of Kabul turned random nobody is now chilling in Oman
    welcome


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    Post  medo Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:08 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Afghanistan President Ashraf Ghani has left the country for Tajikistan, senior interior ministry official says

    https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1426931538571128838



    I must leave, my money needs me!



    Ghani is now in Oman.
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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:10 am

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:18 am

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    Post  Sujoy Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:27 am

    How the US ensured that the Taliban comes back into power.

    https://twitter.com/obaidotman/status/1426647746212159493?s=20

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    Post  JohninMK Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:34 am

    Looks like the US has moved the big boys in


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    Meanwhile whilst its all over bar the shouting

    syrseal
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    During a live broadcast from the presidential palace, the Taliban announced that their leaders will soon arrive in the country from Qatar

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    Taliban spox: "We assure all embassies, diplomatic missions, institutions and residences of foreign nationals in Kabul that no danger is posed to them."



    The US is talking about pouring more troops in. Whilst there are many USAF tankers flying around, at what point does Kabul run out of trucked in aviation fuel?

    Dan Lamothe
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    Overall numbers now will include:

    ~ 2K Marines
    ~ 2K soldiers from 82nd
    ~ 1K from composite unit with Minnesota National Guard
    ~ Nearly 1K that had been assigned to protect embassy and airport prior to last week

    Status-6
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    The Pentagon is authorizing the deployment of additional 1,000 US troops (from the 82nd Airborne Division BCT) in Kabul.

    The expected overall number of US troops in Afghanistan would rise to around 6,000.

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    Post  Hole Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:01 am

    They supported the Taliban for 25 years. Suddenly they got a problem with them coming to power. Karma, baby. Very Happy

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    Post  flamming_python Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:36 am

    More pandemonium:





    Betrayal:



    And the deputy spokesperson of the President of Afghanistan

    Hmm, wonder if she got away. Guessing not

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    Post  calripson Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:34 am

    "US elites are melting down over Afghanistan because they don't like being humiliated. They see this defeat as a destabilizing threat to their own legitimacy at home & won't forgive Biden until he gives them a new war, which he almost surely will. Dangerous times ahead for all.

    Can't count how many times I've seen establishment psychos throwing around Nietzschebabble like "we lack political willpower". When the US ruling class starts blathering about the need to demonstrate their will-to-power, a lot of innocent people are going to die."

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    Post  Gomig-21 Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:36 am

    flamming_python wrote:Taliban insurgency in Afghanistan - Page 19 Fb-img-16290549129378456-jpg

    He certainly messed up by making those bold comments on Kabul no way falling to the Taliban for at least 60 to 90 days and then just 3 days ago, while watching the Taliban Blitzkrieg unfold in front of the entire world, tell a reporter the same thing again about Kabul and not seeing a Saigon in the remaking. Clearly he either had bad intel -- which I highly doubt -- or he didn't believe them which I also highly doubt. So while Trump signed the bill to evacuate all US forces from Afghanistan, Biden definitely will have to shoulder the blame for the tremendous failure of those particular statements.

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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:39 am

    If Joe Biden can be President of the USA, anyone can be President of the USA

    It looks like Mitt may run next time.


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    Post  ALAMO Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:40 am

    Just wait and see.
    The next line of the narrative will be that the Taliban is actually their project, so they won Laughing
    And hey, this is somehow right Laughing Laughing
    Besides, don't be so rush against a guy who hardly remembers his breakfast, OK? dunno jocolor

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:42 am

    Finty wrote:
    Sujoy wrote:Russia Today is reporting based on interviews with locals on the ground that Taliban is carrying out terrible atrocities across the country. Civilians have been killed by Taliban in large numbers.

    I suspect this was bound to happen because Pakistanis comprise a bulk of these fighters.

    It's bad, people getting beaten for listening to pop music and others having their eyes gouged out.

    but but according to fanboys here the Taliban are okay guys and the people want this.

    The fact is life under the Taliban will be utterly brutal and any morons who thinks otherwise needs to go live there then come and talk.

    We gave the afghans the ability to defend themselves, their military commanders just betrayed their own people for deals with the Taliban.

    we helped them for 20 years and while we were there, the Taliban was kept in check, America did its part, it was up to them and they failed now they reap the rewards of this failure.

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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:44 am


    I can almost hear this poor Humvee yelling: ''I was meant to die in Fulda Gap dammit, that was my destiny!!!'' (in Lieutenant Dan's voice)

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    But seriously, what Afghans (all of them) have been doing with Humves and hillbillie armours is a crime against civilisation No


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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:45 am

    Sujoy wrote:
    Finty wrote:It's bad, people getting beaten for listening to pop music and others having their eyes gouged out.
    Biden is responsible for this. Biden is responsible for the massacre of Afghans. He could've reversed course. . He made the call and he has said that he has no regrets. This is on him

    So it's up to the US to defend Afghan from itself forever?

    No its not, we gave them the ability to stop this. Blame the tratiors in the military for ordering their men to just surrender and run away.

    Not my countries or militaries job to baby sit people who clearly have no desire to fight their own battles but rely on us to do it.

    20 years, we trained 300k men, we gave them everything they needed. America helped out Aghanistain enough.
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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:47 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:...but but according to fanboys here the Taliban are okay guys and the people want this. ...

    Dude, nobody here thinks that Taliban are cool, not even in the ballpark

    And those who do say it are probably just taking a piss

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    Post  littlerabbit Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:59 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Afghanistan President Ashraf Ghani has left the country for Tajikistan, senior interior ministry official says

    https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1426931538571128838



    I must leave, my money needs me!



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    Post  ALAMO Mon Aug 16, 2021 7:05 am

    300k in 20 years for a 40mln country?
    Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing
    Are you trying to entertain us all here?
    With Afghan population size - 40 mln, and its structure - well below 20 y/o - they should be able to conscript a 100k men a year voluntary based.
    For Poland - similar in size and double the age population structure - the goal is to deliver z 17+k territorial army soldiers each year.
    A YEAR.
    And we still have a regular army, and not at war!
    In WarPac times, our population was 35mln, army was 350k strong, and steadily replaced with double the year conscript, making the yearly conscript number close to 250k, leaving the professional officer and sergeants cadre.
    The numbers you provide - if we combine those with close to $90 bln expenditures - is just another face of total failure.
    A corruption operation put on the outrageous stage and size.
    Just like the Iraq.

    300k in 20 years ... seriously ... ? lol1 lol1

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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Mon Aug 16, 2021 7:11 am


    Matt Zeller
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    Internet in Kabul is starting to go down. Taliban may plunge our allies into complete communications blackout. Dark days coming.

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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Mon Aug 16, 2021 7:12 am

    What a moronic remark, for a country like Afghan 300k is a normal-sized military and 300k was more than enough to keep the Taliban in check.

    Afghanistan is not Poland, completely different, learn some facts before you run your mouth.
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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Aug 16, 2021 7:15 am

    Cowboy's daughter wrote:
    Matt Zeller
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    Internet in Kabul is starting to go down. Taliban may plunge our allies into complete communications blackout. Dark days coming.

    I'm amazed internet lasted this long over there

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    Post  littlerabbit Mon Aug 16, 2021 7:19 am

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    Finty wrote:
    Sujoy wrote:Russia Today is reporting based on interviews with locals on the ground that Taliban is carrying out terrible atrocities across the country. Civilians have been killed by Taliban in large numbers.

    I suspect this was bound to happen because Pakistanis comprise a bulk of these fighters.

    It's bad, people getting beaten for listening to pop music and others having their eyes gouged out.

    but but according to fanboys here the Taliban are okay guys and the people want this.

    The fact is life under the Taliban will be utterly brutal and any morons who thinks otherwise needs to go live there then come and talk.

    We gave the afghans the ability to defend themselves, their military commanders just betrayed their own people for deals with the Taliban.

    we helped them for 20 years and while we were there, the Taliban was kept in check, America did its part, it was up to them and they failed now they reap the rewards of this failure.

    Honestly, I think that Medieval Europe would be a candyland, compared to Taliban ruling. But, that's only my opinion, we will see what will happen. dunno

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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Aug 16, 2021 7:21 am


    You gotta be shitting me... Suspect



    First, a Getty image of Dep't of State Air Wing CH-46 N38TU (BuNo 154038) over Kabul evacuating the US Embassy today. Second, what appears to be 154038 on the deck of USS Hancock during Frequent Wind, the evacuation of Saigon. The more things change, the more they stay the same.


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