Taliban insurgency in Afghanistan

TMA1 wrote:Why the f*** is my country creating such a vacuum for chicoms to fill up? Same thing with ns2. Funny how we were told trump was a foreign asset. Now we have Biden giving everything to everyone on a silver platter. Look how quickly Taliban filled the vacuum. This wasn't just Pakistan.

Edit: correction of post

It (I assume the US) didn't create a "vacuum" as you put it, it just screwed up in its normal way by trying to impose its view on another country. Same as NS2.

I hardly regard "giving everything to everyone on a silver platter" as a bad thing. They are effectively, once they actually get out, giving the sovereignty of a country back.

Afghanistan is now just a straight forward, but highly weaponised civil war with both sides having external supporters. Just as has occurred for 1000s of years.

That the US/NATO pissed away significant wealth and lives is their legacy of sticking their noses in where they were not wanted. That the Afghans had to suffer it was their bad luck.

The US could have gone in peacefully and worked commercially, just think how that might have turned out? Instead, being the 'exceptional' people with an unbeatable military they tried to take it by force and, although they won't admit it in a thousand years, were defeated.

Another city bites the dust.

FJ
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New image confirming TB presence at governor's HQ in Farah city. To be honest, Farah city wasn't expected to collapse so soon after last night's fighting. Not sure what happened there today (maybe a surrender deal?). Almost total collapse within few hours.

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Taliban close to capturing the city of Farah, the capital of Farah province in western Afghanistan. The pockets of resistance of the Afghan govt forces in the city are falling one after another, according to reports.

flamming_python wrote:All just goes to show how artificial the Afghan government was. It only existed thanks to massive amounts of foreign troops

Don't forget the stashes of $ as well.

The leaders get the money, the followers get the action, so die or are maimed.

flamming_python wrote:

JohninMK wrote:

flamming_python wrote:All just goes to show how artificial the Afghan government was. It only existed thanks to massive amounts of foreign troops

Don't forget the stashes of $ as well.

The leaders get the money, the followers get the action, so die or are maimed.

I do have to say the Italians were certainly the most creative military of the bunch

Just use your military budget to pay the Taliban not to attack you or intrude

Their history with dozens of 'statelets' taught them that.

Can be a definite win win in the modern age too.

PapaDragon wrote:
Farah City going down is 2 hours old news, Pul-i-Khumri is the latest city to fall

https://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2021/08/farah-city-pul-i-khumri-fall-to-the-taliban.php

Taliban are tearing through A-stan almost as hard as Serbian waterpolo team through Olympics

How about

BILAL SARWARY
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Pule Khomri the capital of Baghlan province have fallen into the hands of Taliban. Earlier today, I spoke to my friend the deputy Governor Ghafari who told me, anti Taliban militias had abandoned the city&went to Andarab, he said he had not received reinforcements or air power.

Dr. Drexluddin Khan Spiveyzai Kayani (Drexy Baba)
@RisboLensky
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#Baghlan Governor, remaining troops and some officials withdrew to Shamarq, 4 km's south of Pul e Khumri. Now there are 2 options: either evacuation by choppa' or long trip by Kabul road. I think some arrangements will be made like in case of Taloqan #Afghanistan

flamming_python wrote:

https://twitter.com/Zoya_nafidi/status/1425304451875688459

On a smaller scale but a bit like the British Army 150 years ago. Legends brought to life

Cowboy's daughter wrote:I know what I think, but I'm curious, what do y'all think of Joe Biden saying: "Biden tells Afghanistan they have to 'WANT' to fight the Taliban and insists he does not regret pulling troops..."

If that is indeed what he said, good on him. Finally a bit of reality from the USG.

Its a civil war in a sovereign state, they can sort it out between themselves.

If Government forces don't want to fight that is their decision, it could save their lives. Anyway, unless they were on the gravy train what's in it for them to fight, other than death?

Finty wrote:Been a while since the Taliban had any (presumably) serviceable aircraft in service!

That Mi-35 doesn't look too serviceable to me. Someone stole the rotors

More from Biden. That the Taliban are also fighting for their nation doesn't seem to figure in most Western reports.

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US President Biden: "We spent over a trillion dollars over 20 years. We trained and equipped with modern equipment over 300,000 Afghan forces [...] Afghan leaders have to come together... They have to fight for themselves, fight for their nation."

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