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    Project 22350: Admiral Sergei Gorshkov

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    Post  AlfaT8 Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:16 pm

    Nibiru wrote:Government testing of Admiral Gorshkov frigate over, says shipyard


    MOSCOW, July 26. /TASS/. Acceptance report of government testing of the flagship of Project 22350, the Admiral Gorshkov, was signed in St Petersburg on Thursday, the press service of the company that built the ship, Severnaya Verf [Northern Shipyard], said in a press release.

    "On July 26, a government commission chaired by Captain First Rank Viktor Ivanov signes an acceptance report on government testing of the frigate Navy Admiral of the Soviet Union Gorshkov, Project 22350," it said.

    "On July 28, the ship will join the Russian Navy," the press release said.

    http://tass.com/defense/1014981


    So can mass production finally start soon?

    About F'ing time, unless someone backtracks soon.

    Let's hope the Admiral Nakhimov delays because of "Redut" are no longer an issue.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:42 am

    Nibiru wrote:So can mass production finally start soon?

    Once the new gas turbines from Saturn are certified, the remaining 2x units can be completed. I can't see the Navy ordering anymore of the same design given the design is from early 00s. They will likely move onto a up-sized variant, the so-called "Super-Gorshkov".

    The lack of turbines have always been the major reason the build has been suspended (likewise for the 11356's). Redut issues have clearly delayed the Gorshkovs acceptance, but doesn't have a significant impact on the suspended 22350s.

    BTW does anyone have some solid info to corroborate the claims that the first serial MGTs from Saturn are being fitted to the Neustrashimy?
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    Post  Big_Gazza Fri Jul 27, 2018 1:57 am

    AlfaT8 wrote:Let's hope the Admiral Nakhimov delays because of "Redut" are no longer an issue.

    I doubt delays in the Nakhimov are due to any technical problems with the Redut long-range missile variants. Nakhimov is a huge rebuild job, very complex, and delays are inevitable. The schedule will slide to the right just like the conversion of the ex-Baku/Gorshkov into the Vikramaditiya which IIRC took approx 9 years from her purchase to acceptance.
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    Post  hoom Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:49 am

    Its happened!
    https://flot.com/2018/%D0%A1%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F%D0%92%D0%B5%D1%80%D1%84%D1%8C32/
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:59 am

    Well about dam time?.
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    Post  Hole Fri Jul 27, 2018 10:48 am

    You can´t compare Nakhimov to Baku. Indians were involved there.

    Why not order more Gorshkov´s after all problems are solved? The Burke design is from the 70´s.
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    Post  KomissarBojanchev Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:06 pm

    Im pleasantly surprised given the reports that claimed that its delayed until november.

    This means that the redut is ready, so they should commission the S-350 land based SAM too.
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    Post  franco Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:27 pm

    I'm not sure this is not a political decision to have the ship "officially" in the Navy for Navy Day.
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Jul 27, 2018 2:57 pm

    franco wrote:I'm not sure this is not a political decision to have the ship "officially" in the Navy for Navy Day.

    Few are.

    Radar is not ironed out yet. Navy was definitely pressured into accepting it for holidays.

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    Post  GarryB Sat Jul 28, 2018 5:02 am

    The Udaloy entered service years before its Klintok (naval TOR) system was actually working, and the Kuznetsov for much of its operational life did not have functioning main radar arrays...

    But then the first model Typhoon and F-35 have so called entered service in early tranches or models that don't have everything working either...
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    Post  George1 Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:16 am

    The first frigate of project 22350 "Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Gorshkov," built since 2006, is included in the combat composition of the Russian Navy. As the TASS correspondent reports from the place of the event, the St. Andrew's flag was raised on the ship.

    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/5410897

    Finally..It's official! russia

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    Post  George1 Sat Jul 28, 2018 1:06 pm

    The second frigate of project 22350 will go on the sea trials at the end of this year

    More on TASS:
    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/5411080
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    Post  hoom Sat Jul 28, 2018 6:25 pm

    via Balancer with flag & next to Kasatonov
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    Post  LMFS Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:43 am

    Good article on the 22350:

    http://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/5408843
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    Post  George1 Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:17 am

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    Post  LMFS Sun Jul 29, 2018 10:25 am

    From BMPD:

    Now on PJSC Shipbuilding Plant Severnaya Verf under the contract of PJSC United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) with the Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation of March 25, 2010 for construction of three production ships of the project 22350 (serial numbers 922, 923 and 924) construction of frigates "Admiral of the Fleet Kasatonov" (serial number 922, is put on Severnaya Verf on November 26, 2009, is floated on December 12, 2014), "Admiral Golovko" (serial number 923, is put on February 1, 2012) and "the Admiral of the fleet of the Soviet Union Isakov" is conducted (serial number 924, is put on November 14, 2013).

    Further construction is supposed to be conducted on the modified project 22350M. At a ceremony of raising of the Naval flag by the "Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union of Pots" frigate the Deputy Commander-in-chief of the Navy of Russia vice admiral Victor Bursuk has said that "a series of the ships absolutely similar to the Admiral Gorshkov frigate will make four units. Further we plan the much bigger number of the modernized ships. The developer - Severnoye Design Bureau - gets to this work this year. We plan to receive the first modernized ship in 2026".

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/3287057.html

    I would have expected them to have the design of the modernized version ready or very advanced by now
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:40 pm

    Correct I said this over a month ago.
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    Post  LMFS Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:47 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:Correct I said this over a month ago.
    Do you know what new features will be implemented?
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:50 pm

    LMFS wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:Correct I said this over a month ago.
    Do you know what new features will be implemented?

    Yes but that's not something I can say, some information I do share other information I cannot because of how it's gotten.

    I don't know exactly how the new features work just what they are "supposed to do".

    I don't know exact numbers just descriptions that are well hush hush to normal folk.
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    Post  LMFS Sun Jul 29, 2018 3:59 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    LMFS wrote:
    SeigSoloyvov wrote:Correct I said this over a month ago.
    Do you know what new features will be implemented?

    Yes but that's not something I can say, some information I do share other information I cannot because of how it's gotten.

    I don't know exactly how the new features work just what they are  "supposed to do".

    I don't know exact numbers just descriptions that are well hush hush to normal folk.
    Ok, we don't want you sent to prison!

    Edit: I see you talked about the two additional units under construction being the 22350M and equalling them to the Super Gorshkovs. But then, the design should be ready by now... maybe the translation of Bursuk's words is misleading? Dates you mention roughly match those for the modernized ships according to Bursuk.

    I think he means the two laid down in early 2018 with the hull numbers 925, 926.

    However those are Super Grog's, the Russian said a contact said Project 22530M these vessels are also supposed to be dropped into the water in 2025 so that build time of seven years at least makes sense giving the size of the vessel this is their first DD sized ships in decades.

    Moscow is additional in talks for another two with the hull numbers 927, 928.

    The two known are going to the Pacific Fleet.
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    Post  hoom Sat Aug 04, 2018 5:38 pm

    Rare pic of a test launch
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    I think thats the anti-sub Kalibr?
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    Post  Hole Sat Aug 04, 2018 9:26 pm

    Could be so.

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    Post  mnztr Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:23 pm

    such a pretty ship. What will be the status of the next ships? Ukrainain powered and destained for the Indian Navy or will they have the new Russian turbines? The Super Gorshkovs look like a potentially winning formula.
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    Post  hoom Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:06 pm

    Definitely completing for Russia with new Russian engines/transmission.

    But current plan is only to finish the 3 currently under construction before going to Super Gorshkov & building 20386 as main Frigate class.
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    Post  LMFS Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:07 pm

    mnztr wrote:such a pretty ship. What will be the status of the next ships? Ukrainain powered and destained for the Indian Navy or will they have the new Russian turbines? The Super Gorshkovs look like a potentially winning formula.
    This is a very comprehensive listing (in Spanish) of (all) the surface units being built for Russia.

    http://charly015.blogspot.com/2018/08/que-buques-estan-construyendo-los.html

    AFAIK the second unit still has Ukrainian engines, the rest will receive Russian ones.

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