Syrian Civil War: News #6

BTW why freedom and US values cannot be implemented without pillage and genocide?

There are fatalities inside the U.S., as well.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/dec/31/the-counted-police-killings-2015-young-black-men

Furthermore, 220000 dead because of medical accident per year, 30000 dead because of traffic accident per year, 33000 dead because of gun fatality.

U.S. people need to rise up and make a uprising, to change the country. For their own benefit and for the benefit of the world.

KoTeMoRe wrote:There are images of what looks like a 2A18 howie chopped off from a Gvod and set up on a D20 carriage in use by the Moderats.

short_fuze wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:There are images of what looks like a 2A18 howie chopped off from a Gvod and set up on a D20 carriage in use by the Moderats.

I raise you a tank turret from a Chinese type 69 tank mounted on a 4 wheel trailer. I guess it must be fixed azimuth, fixed elevation if it works at all.

KoTeMoRe wrote:

short_fuze wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:There are images of what looks like a 2A18 howie chopped off from a Gvod and set up on a D20 carriage in use by the Moderats.

I raise you a tank turret from a Chinese type 69 tank mounted on a 4 wheel trailer. I guess it must be fixed azimuth, fixed elevation if it works at all.

Mother****!

Don't tell Militarov, them Serbs are bound to get another war started to make even crazier modifications.   Militarov, if you're watching, it's just humarr friend!

KoTeMoRe wrote:

short_fuze wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:There are images of what looks like a 2A18 howie chopped off from a Gvod and set up on a D20 carriage in use by the Moderats.

I raise you a tank turret from a Chinese type 69 tank mounted on a 4 wheel trailer. I guess it must be fixed azimuth, fixed elevation if it works at all.

Mother****!

Don't tell Militarov, them Serbs are bound to get another war started to make even crazier modifications.   Militarov, if you're watching, it's just humarr friend!

short_fuze wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

short_fuze wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:There are images of what looks like a 2A18 howie chopped off from a Gvod and set up on a D20 carriage in use by the Moderats.

I raise you a tank turret from a Chinese type 69 tank mounted on a 4 wheel trailer. I guess it must be fixed azimuth, fixed elevation if it works at all.

Mother****!

Don't tell Militarov, them Serbs are bound to get another war started to make even crazier modifications.   Militarov, if you're watching, it's just humarr friend!

I guess no one told them that the Mad Max movie was supposed to be entertainment, not an instruction manual.

Militarov wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

short_fuze wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:There are images of what looks like a 2A18 howie chopped off from a Gvod and set up on a D20 carriage in use by the Moderats.

I raise you a tank turret from a Chinese type 69 tank mounted on a 4 wheel trailer. I guess it must be fixed azimuth, fixed elevation if it works at all.

Mother****!

Don't tell Militarov, them Serbs are bound to get another war started to make even crazier modifications. Militarov, if you're watching, it's just humarr friend!

Hahaha, Serbs, masters of improvisation.

This one is not bad i must admit, if it works ofc, however imo still one of the greatest improvisations ever is armored train Krajina Express:



And yep, that is Zis 3 gun, Malytka launchers, 20mm AA guns, Browning .50s, M53s (MG42) and... turret from Hellcat tank destroyer. Also train was armored with 25mm thick metal plates + on top of it sheets of rubber reinforced with stainless steel mesh, to fight cumulative rounds. Engineering at its finest :F






Tho Krajina "balistic" missile isnt that bad either



And yes that is SA2 + Styx-2 / P15

Militarov wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:

short_fuze wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:There are images of what looks like a 2A18 howie chopped off from a Gvod and set up on a D20 carriage in use by the Moderats.

I raise you a tank turret from a Chinese type 69 tank mounted on a 4 wheel trailer. I guess it must be fixed azimuth, fixed elevation if it works at all.

Mother****!

Don't tell Militarov, them Serbs are bound to get another war started to make even crazier modifications.   Militarov, if you're watching, it's just humarr friend!

Hahaha, Serbs, masters of improvisation.

This one is not bad i must admit, if it works ofc, however imo still one of the greatest improvisations ever is armored train Krajina Express:



And yep, that is Zis 3 gun, Malytka launchers, 20mm AA guns, Browning .50s, M53s (MG42) and... turret from Hellcat tank destroyer. Also train was armored with 25mm thick metal plates + on top of it sheets of rubber reinforced with stainless steel mesh, to fight cumulative rounds. Engineering at its finest :F






Tho Krajina "balistic" missile isnt that bad either



And yes that is SA2 + Styx-2 / P15

GarryB wrote:

Cases of unjust killing by police are rare - some 700 per year - about 1.5%

If you got murdered 700 times a year would you say you dying almost twice a day was a rare event?

The real problem is that 700 murders are committed every year in the US where the people supposed to be protecting the people of the United States are actually covering up what happened and forgiving those who are killing people... sounds like the Church is not the only power that sweeps things under the carpet and hopes they will go away.

GarryB wrote:If only the Serbs were that smart... they could have declared all Albanians within their national borders non citizens and if they protested deport them to Albania... no talk of ethnic cleansing or genocide then...

KoTeMoRe wrote:Albanians and Albanophones are only an excuse in Kosovo. The issue is that something was needed to utterly breakdown the remnants of Yugoslavia and that would have been done in what ever way they (the US) wanted. Yes Kosovar bait was too juicy for the US, but the reality is that they would have gotten around Kosovo pretty soon. See Iraq, they fucked up Saddam no questions asked pronto. They would have starved Yugoslavia then easily. Whatever pretext would have been perfect. Ironically we gave them the idea with the Ponzi Scheme debacle. Once they "were forced" to act to "preserve foreign interests" in Albania by 1997, the game was on. UCK/KLA had enough weapons. They had enough cannon fodder and criminals for their job. Sooner or later they would have found some other crap to push.

Furthermore, Yugoslavs aren't animals. Yes statehood was nec+Ultra for them, but at no point was there this absurd notion to "expel" the roughly 1.9 million Kosovars out of Yugoslavia. Don't forget. there were easier things to do when it came to getting the rotten apples out of Yugoslavia. You gave them passports and they were onto other areas. And those things worked well for 30 years.

KiloGolf wrote:

KoTeMoRe wrote:Albanians and Albanophones are only an excuse in Kosovo. The issue is that something was needed to utterly breakdown the remnants of Yugoslavia and that would have been done in what ever way they (the US) wanted. Yes Kosovar bait was too juicy for the US, but the reality is that they would have gotten around Kosovo pretty soon. See Iraq, they fucked up Saddam no questions asked pronto. They would have starved Yugoslavia then easily. Whatever pretext would have been perfect. Ironically we gave them the idea with the Ponzi Scheme debacle. Once they "were forced" to act to "preserve foreign interests" in Albania by 1997, the game was on. UCK/KLA had enough weapons. They had enough cannon fodder and criminals for their job. Sooner or later they would have found some other crap to push.

Furthermore, Yugoslavs aren't animals. Yes statehood was nec+Ultra for them, but at no point was there this absurd notion to "expel" the roughly 1.9 million Kosovars out of Yugoslavia. Don't forget. there were easier things to do when it came to getting the rotten apples out of Yugoslavia. You gave them passports and they were onto other areas. And those things worked well for 30 years.

I always got the idea that the 1999 war was a race against time for NATO. They had to wrap it before Putin & co. took office and before the US elections in 2000 (with Bush getting elected partially on the notion of no more interventionism). Iraq sanctions and invasion had a decade+ of preparation. Their window in messing up the Balkans was basically 1991 (post USSR coup) until 2000 (Putin coming to power).

The UN brokered deal for Kosovo got Russian approval (which deployed Russians + KFOR). I sense that Putin would have not gone for that deal without some sort of assurance on the ground or his own "camp Bondsteel" in Kosovska Mitrovica. Once KFOR sneaked in, Milosevic got thrown out with a... Maidan (coup), the 2004 ethnic cleansing took place (similar to what Ukrops tried to do in Donbas), it was all over for Serbia and nothing Putin's crew could do.

KoTeMoRe wrote:On the other side what was Putin going to do? Wage open war? He had zero allies on that option. Nope the best policy for Milosevic was to keep the tension as low as possible and keep it on the afterburner. Which wasn't possible by 1998. That year alone about a million weapons crossed the border. Most of them just transiting through Kosovo.

Also don't forget. Putin clinched a deal that legally was honest. Kosovo couldn't become independent according the insurances the Europeans gave themselves. Once again, Kosovo will NOT be a UN member. Period. The declaration of Independence resulted "directly" to the Russian bitchslap off Georgia. Ironically again. This is testament to US absolute retardation when it comes to International Law.

KiloGolf wrote:old but gud



and holy cow, these Christian Syrian women... well they do look better than the Kurdish ones, wow. Sorry to all YPG fanboys.

higurashihougi wrote:From the Syrian Bakdash Communists... basically they expressed their support for SAA and claimed that they are helping Assad in the fight against terrorists.

Not surprising, though. Both the communist parties in Syria are parts of the governing coalition.

http://www.resumenlatinoamericano.org/2016/02/14/juventud-comunista-de-siria-defendemos-y-peleamos-junto-a-nuestro-ejercito-sirio-contra-los-terroristas/

But what of the Kurds, whose advance southwards has also endangered those rebel supply routes to Aleppo?  The Syrians are grateful for any Kurdish help they can get. But few in the military have forgotten the chilling events of 2013, when retreating Syrians sought refuge with Kurdish forces after the battle for the Mineq airbase. The Kurds demanded a vast tranche of weapons from the Syrian army in return for their men – soldiers for ammunition – in which millions of rounds of AK-47 and machine-gun ammunition and thousands of rounds of rocket-propelled grenades were sought in return for the release of the soldiers.

But the Kurds wanted to persuade Nusra to return Kurdish prisoners, and offered the senior Syrian officers from Mineq to Nusra in return for the captives. Nusra agreed, but once the Kurds handed over the Syrian officers, the Islamist rebels – who had lost around 300 of their own men in the Mineq battle – at once killed all the Syrian officers the Kurds had given them, shooting them in the head.

Among them was the acting Syrian commander at Mineq, Colonel Naji Abu Shaar of the Syrian army’s 17th Division. Events like these will not endear the Kurds to the Syrian army in future years.

Meanwhile, the Syrians continue to lose high-ranking officers in battle. At least six generals have been killed in combat during the Syrian war, allowing the army to proclaim that their top men lead from the front.

The commander of Syria’s Special Forces was killed in Idlib, and the commander of Syrian military intelligence in the east of the country was killed in Deir al-Zour. Major-General Mohsen Mahlouf died in battle near Palmyra. General Saleh, a close friend and colleague of Colonel “Tiger” Hassan, took on the suicide bombers of al-Qaeda in the Sheikh Najjar Industrial City outside Aleppo a year ago.

He told me that suicide bombers killed 23 of his men in one vast explosion there. I met him afterwards, and thought at the time that he had adopted a blithe – almost foolhardy – disregard of death.  Just a month ago, he drove over an IED bomb which blew off the lower half of his right leg. These are hard men, many of whom trained in a Syrian military college whose front gate legend reads: “Welcome to the school of heroism, where the gods of war are made.” Chilling stuff.

Intriguingly, since the start of the war in 2011, a far higher percentage of Syrian police and political security personnel have gone across to Bashar al-Assad’s enemies than have soldiers in the regular army. There have been 5,000 security personnel defections out of a total force of 28,000 police.