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    Post  JohninMK Sun Feb 21, 2016 6:54 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Assad making the point again

    in my Post n°713  Re: Syrian Civil War: News #6 it news wer ereported, nice to know that  you pressed ignore on my login  Twisted Evil

    As for contents w/o agreeing with Russia/Iran IMHO unlikely such words in mouth of Assad
    Sorry, don't understand the point you are trying to make.

    This came from Assad's interview with a French program today. It is at least the second if not the third time I have posted on the subject. It seems to be a very successful project.
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    Post  jhelb Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:11 pm

    While pretending to fight ISIS the Yankees have managed to kill Serbian diplomats in Libya. Am quite certain that the US knew where the Serbian diplomats are and then decided to bomb that place.

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/feb/20/us-airstrikes-libya-serbian-embassy-staffers-killed
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:32 pm

    Al-Nusra Front Terrorists Ask the UN for Protection Against Russia

    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160221/1035142960/terrrorist-appeal-un-russian-airstrikes.html

    now we´ll see who is sponsoring them  lol!


    JohninMK wrote:Sorry, don't understand the point you are trying to make.

    My apologies I was referring to other news.


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    Post  Erk Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:40 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:Al-Nusra Front Terrorists Ask the UN for Protection Against Russia

    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160221/1035142960/terrrorist-appeal-un-russian-airstrikes.html

    now we´ll see who is sponsoring them  lol!


    JohninMK wrote:Sorry, don't understand the point you are trying to make.

    My apologies I was referring to other news.

    Just a propaganda stunt, Russia are working on behalf of the legitimate Syrian government which is at war with Al-Nusra, it's an internal matter for Syria, threatens know other UN member.

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    Post  JohninMK Sun Feb 21, 2016 8:40 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:Al-Nusra Front Terrorists Ask the UN for Protection Against Russia

    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160221/1035142960/terrrorist-appeal-un-russian-airstrikes.html

    now we´ll see who is sponsoring them  lol!


    JohninMK wrote:Sorry, don't understand the point you are trying to make.

    My apologies I was referring to other news.
    No problem.

    You beat me to the other news item you have just linked to.

    Goes into the 'you couldn't make this up' file.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sun Feb 21, 2016 9:03 pm

    Erk wrote:
    GunshipDemocracy wrote:Al-Nusra Front Terrorists Ask the UN for Protection Against Russia

    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160221/1035142960/terrrorist-appeal-un-russian-airstrikes.html

    now we´ll see who is sponsoring them  lol!


    Just a propaganda stunt, Russia are working on behalf of the legitimate Syrian government which is at war with Al-Nusra, it's an internal matter for Syria, threatens know other UN member.


    Taking into account UNSC not adopting Russian resolution on Turkey´s aggression against Syria I am not sure if this request will be backed by criminal sponsors as " to stop indiscriminate bombing"
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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sun Feb 21, 2016 9:04 pm

    The Kurds back for days almost in a rush to Deir ez Zor of the north occur. Since there is virtually no IS. Is that so on the IS is soon cut off from Iraq.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Feb 21, 2016 9:06 pm

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    Post  medo Sun Feb 21, 2016 9:42 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:Syrian Civil War: News #6 - Page 30 OrHlUqb

    Looking on this map, I could see, that between Al Thawrah in the south of lake Assad on Euphrates river and the dam on the north of the Lake Assad, which is in the hands of Kurds, there is no bridge to cross the lake. All, what Syrian army now have to do is to reach lake Assad anywhere between those two points and cut the road, which lead to the Turkish border and they will cut ISIL down from Lake Assad down to Iraq from supplies from Turkey as well as selling oil to Turkey. Cutting their supplies from Turkey, ISIL will be quickly overstretched in many fronts in Syria and in Iraq and would be quite quickly destroyed.
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    Post  JohninMK Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:48 pm

    medo wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:Syrian Civil War: News #6 - Page 30 OrHlUqb

    Looking on this map, I could see, that between Al Thawrah in the south of lake Assad on Euphrates river and the dam on the north of the Lake Assad, which is in the hands of Kurds, there is no bridge to cross the lake. All, what Syrian army now have to do is to reach lake Assad anywhere between those two points and cut the road, which lead to the Turkish border and they will cut ISIL down from Lake Assad down to Iraq from supplies from Turkey as well as selling oil to Turkey. Cutting their supplies from Turkey, ISIL will be quickly overstretched in many fronts in Syria and in Iraq and would be quite quickly destroyed.
    Like your thinking.

    That road looks very vulnerable to SF activities operating out of the desert. There looks to be a choke point bridge to the east of Tuwazon with just desert between it and the SAA advance.

    That would force the Turks to put up or shut up.
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    Post  Vann7 Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:50 am

    Militarov wrote:
    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:
    Militarov wrote:
    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:Look at how readily ATGMs are used for all kind of roles, including for the antipersonnel role.

    This is quite interesting as I have always been convinced that the Russians definitely have for long deployed general-purpose infantry guided missiles (GPIGM) for general-purpose roles on the battlefield.

    These missiles would

    1- be lighter than the lightest ATGMs,
    2- have a smaller multipurpose warhead,
    3- have a range at least slightly better than sniper rifles, and
    4- be relatively fast.

    Orr what about something like this. USN Spike, basically can be integrated in any platform you wish.

    "Spike" doesn't meet the 3rd and the 4th requirements. Especially, its "real", "potential" performance figures, as opposed to the "published" figures, will fall substantially short of the 3rd and the 4th requirements. Its "potential" speed would be well below Mach 0.5 and its "potential" range below 500 m.

    The missiles I was referring to would have a real range of around 2 km and would be supersonic, possibly close to Mach 2.

    Syrian Civil War: News #6 - Page 30 Spike10

    Well according to declassified files its supposed to have range of around 2 miles. Warhead truly is light but thats what we want here, right. And when its about speed... 240ish m/s, its not that bad, Kornet-M has speed abit under 300m/s.

    What does your videos of 1999 and your images of missiles have anything to do with
    the Syrian civil war discussion?  So much for lecturing others about staying in topic with the discussion?? . Rolling Eyes

    Stay with the topic at discussion please.
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    Post  zg18 Mon Feb 22, 2016 2:02 am

    Area liberated in eastern Aleppo in last 24-48 hours

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    Post  Vann7 Mon Feb 22, 2016 2:14 am

    Turkey defense minister in the border of Syria, Erdogan claiming have rights to invade Syria ,
    Russia defense minister in IRAN.. it all looks like a much bigger conflict in Syria will start in a matter of a week or two. and with the full blessings of Obama. The thing to look forward is the American planes... but even more their navy positions , if they suddenly move far from Syria and take a break is because they believe a major war will start and will not like to be in the cross fire in Syria when that happens.
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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Feb 22, 2016 2:22 am


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    Post  elevonic Mon Feb 22, 2016 2:51 am


    Hez snipper killed 6 IS
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    Post  d_taddei2 Mon Feb 22, 2016 3:18 am

    medo wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:Syrian Civil War: News #6 - Page 30 OrHlUqb

    Looking on this map, I could see, that between Al Thawrah in the south of lake Assad on Euphrates river and the dam on the north of the Lake Assad, which is in the hands of Kurds, there is no bridge to cross the lake. All, what Syrian army now have to do is to reach lake Assad anywhere between those two points and cut the road, which lead to the Turkish border and they will cut ISIL down from Lake Assad down to Iraq from supplies from Turkey as well as selling oil to Turkey. Cutting their supplies from Turkey, ISIL will be quickly overstretched in many fronts in Syria and in Iraq and would be quite quickly destroyed.


    I think no matter what happens this is going to be a really tough battle, ISIS know the consequences if the SAA take Al Thawrah so will no doubt be reinforcing this to the hilt, and then you have the problem of defending it, bearing in mind ISIS could attack from the west/north/east, as well as trying to flank it coming from the Resafa direction. I think that Resafa needs to be taken before taking Al Thawrah. And i think that the Tiger forces will target Deir Hafir next which in effect will cut ISIS into segments, and hoping for the same kinda of scenario as the east Aleppo cauldron, between Jirah airbase and Tabqa airbase, ISIS will have only two options die or swim Lake Assad lol Very Happy once the Kurds attack Manbij which will hopefully take some reinforcements away from Al Bab, then the SAA can take Al Bab. Palmyra and Qaryatayn once taken will fragment ISIS even more blocking supply routes from the Al-Tanf–Al-Walid Crossing.
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    Post  GarryB Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:44 am

    Maybe the Americans thought the Serbs were Chinese or they were just using old maps again... Rolling Eyes

    Well according to declassified files its supposed to have range of around 2 miles. Warhead truly is light but thats what we want here, right. And when its about speed... 240ish m/s, its not that bad, Kornet-M has speed abit under 300m/s.

    The chance of infantry spotting enemy infantry targets 3.2kms away and identifying them as such and taking a shot is rather low.

    Indeed if it is a Russian infantry unit they could simply get the BMP-3 they arrived in to fire a 100mm shell at the target wit a pretty certain chance of a hit.

    At those sort of ranges it will be a vehicle or building that is spotted and engaged and Russian infantry are issued with ATGM with HE Frag warheads already.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:00 am

    The militants of the terrorist group "Islamic state" (banned in Russia) cut off the lifeline of the city of Aleppo on segment Asia-Hanser, reported RIA Novosti military source.


    BEIRUT, 22 Dec – RIA Novosti, Mikhail Alaeddin. The militants of the terrorist group "Islamic state" (banned in Russia) cut off the lifeline of the city of Aleppo on segment Asia-Hanser, reported RIA Novosti military source.
    "The night fighters attacked the checkpoints of the Syrian army in the town of Khanasser. Fierce battles with terrorists are still ongoing. Under enemy fire about 10 miles of the road leading to Aleppo. The traffic is blocked", — said the Agency interlocutor.
    According to a source, the attack was from several sides. The main strike force of terrorists attacked from the North side of town Hanser. Bypass road is the only way to supply the Syrian troops in Aleppo, as well as the "road of life" on which the city of Aleppo supplied with food, fuel and other necessary things.
    Cutting off Aleppo supply route, the terrorists expect to slow the pace of large-scale offensive the Syrian army in Northern Aleppo province and on the West by the province of raqqa.

    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/syria/20160222/1378684885.html#ixzz40tBfLihP


    No good, but where are drones for intelligence? what abou tel-int so igil uses no radios? those was not 10 terroist groups I presume.


    GarryB wrote:Maybe the Americans thought the Serbs were Chinese or they were just using old maps again...  Rolling Eyes

    i wonder if Russian planes would make such a collateral damage -oops UK/US diplomats evaporated after phopshorus bomb dropped on ?IGIL?
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:09 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:The militants of the terrorist group "Islamic state" (banned in Russia) cut off the lifeline of the city of Aleppo on segment Asia-Hanser, reported RIA Novosti military source.


    BEIRUT, 22 Dec – RIA Novosti, Mikhail Alaeddin. The militants of the terrorist group "Islamic state" (banned in Russia) cut off the lifeline of the city of Aleppo on segment Asia-Hanser, reported RIA Novosti military source.
    "The night fighters attacked the checkpoints of the Syrian army in the town of Khanasser. Fierce battles with terrorists are still ongoing. Under enemy fire about 10 miles of the road leading to Aleppo. The traffic is blocked", — said the Agency interlocutor.
    According to a source, the attack was from several sides. The main strike force of terrorists attacked from the North side of town Hanser. Bypass road is the only way to supply the Syrian troops in Aleppo, as well as the "road of life" on which the city of Aleppo supplied with food, fuel and other necessary things.
    Cutting off Aleppo supply route, the terrorists expect to slow the pace of large-scale offensive the Syrian army in Northern Aleppo province and on the West by the province of raqqa.

    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/syria/20160222/1378684885.html#ixzz40tBfLihP


    No good, but where are drones for intelligence? what abou tel-int so igil uses no radios? those was not 10 terroist groups I presume.

    These counterattacks are intentionally allowed as part of cost-effective military action to annihilate the enemy forces. These have been daily occurrences after the start of the Russia military assistance to Syria.
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    Post  short_fuze Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:34 pm

    ISIS/FSA/Jund al-Aqsa forces have joined together and taken Rasm Al-Nafal on the Khanasser-Aleppo Road. Two other villages are under threat. If true, the road to Aleppo is broken.

    https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/isis-rebels-attack-the-syrian-army-together-in-southeast-aleppo/

    Edit: I see someone else has reported this above.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:15 pm

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote: These counterattacks are intentionally allowed as part of cost-effective military action to annihilate the enemy forces. These have been daily occurrences after the start of the Russia military assistance to Syria.

    Can you elaborate pls how loosing any of soldiers and making problems with logistics is positively influence SAA operations?


    short_fuze wrote:ISIS/FSA/Jund al-Aqsa forces have joined together and taken Rasm Al-Nafal on the Khanasser-Aleppo Road. Two other villages are under threat. If true, the road to Aleppo is broken.

    Edit: I see someone else has reported this above.

    yup RIA did Smile
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:30 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:
    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote: These counterattacks are intentionally allowed as part of cost-effective military action to annihilate the enemy forces. These have been daily occurrences after the start of the Russia military assistance to Syria.

    Can you elaborate pls how loosing any of soldiers and making problems with logistics is positively influence SAA operations?

    Because the alternative involves letting the enemy to get away and eventually losing orders of magnitude more of your soldiers in battling properly regrouped forces of the enemy that got away.

    Also, check the news that has been following the one you are referring to.

    Nothing new here, this has been happening almost every day after the Russian assistance started.

    The tactical and the operational sciences are well known.
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    Post  NationalRus Mon Feb 22, 2016 2:04 pm

    elevonic wrote:
    Hez snipper killed 6 IS

    yes hez sniper kills 6 IS in Medal of Honor, the only question is PC or XBOX?
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Mon Feb 22, 2016 2:20 pm

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote: Because the alternative involves letting the enemy to get away and eventually losing orders of magnitude more of your soldiers in battling properly regrouped forces of the enemy that got away.

    Also, check the news that has been following the one you are referring to.

    Nothing new here, this has been happening almost every day after the Russian assistance started.

    The tactical and the operational sciences are well known.

    That would require you knowing places where terrorist scum is concentrating and not letting them to urban areas. Unless you can just carpet bomb those, otherwise you need to have urban combat where AF usage is very restricted.
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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Feb 22, 2016 2:55 pm


    Several days old info, but there have been regular Il-76 flights out of Damascus to Syrian Kurdistan. Any guess on the cargo? Cool Twisted Evil

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