r111 wrote:Was wondering if we could get a discussion going on the subject - esp in light of events in Syria (w/ Libya to follow soon ?).
Certainly RU has most experience w/ it, Chechen I and II campaigns being most recent example.
US's had their share of fun, albeit on much smaller scale in Fallujah.
So sitrep is something like:
- 1K-5K tangos in a typical ME town of 10,000-200,000. Locals have mostly fled.
Small arms to snipers, Dushkas, RPGs, TOWs. Very determined/fanatical enemy. IEDs, dozens of suicide bombers ready to "martyr" themselves.
Elaborate under-ground fortifications and tunnels.
Enemy still getting resupplied by night, food & ammo, but cut off from flow of reinforcements.
Stopping short of blockade w/ subsequent deal for tangos to leave, what are the tactics to be used to accomplish the mission, objectives on time and minimizing losses.
Enemy fond of launching vehicle IEDs with suicide bombers at the checkpoints and road blocks.
What's your Time Limit?
There are two issues here.
1. Have the Non-Cbt's fled?If yes, is there a limit in the conventional arsenal (bar Tactical BM's and things like that)?
2. What's the insurgency level exactly. Having a huge arsenal can be possible with territorial stocks, but does your town connect with a border?
There can't be elaborate underground fortifications, unless sewers. If the insurgency is fresh that's simply not the case. If we're talking sewer portions, then there's that is another card.
Then subsequent issues. What's the topography? Having wells inside the city, will have a lot impact. Having that city on the coast, will also have other impacts. Mountainous terrain, other impacts.
Starting on a SOP and having a town of 100K (I look at my own Vlora city). FIrst mine fields. UMZ the hell out of the approaches. Leaving small venues you can choke point. Three outer rings for a city like Vlora that would be 50/30/15 KM perimeter rings out of the city. at 8/5/3 kms. That would take about 2500 soldiers to man.
Next, my own preference is the Israeli investment sequence. Starting from outside, clearing the most difficult areas first. Unlike the US who aims to build COP's inside the City and attract Insurgents. I'd push with a lot of troops in relatively stretched areas. About 5km² investment area to drain the bigger pockets.
So basically UAV scan, localizing the movement patterns on Target Area. Usually 72H tops. While UAV scanning probing other areas with artillery. Diversion for a city on lock down offers the interesting process that it can become a real attack if the guys inside don't bite fast enough.
Typical preparation of Investment. Artillery barrage at the entry line and the second line (usually 500m after the entry line. That indicates physically the next "step" to your guys and allows them to assess where they are.
Investment properly, Typically about 5 times the level of troops you'd face inside the town. So from 5K to 25K divided in three groups.
Manoeuvre group, Support group, Diversion group.
Start with the Diversion group that has to be the smaller one (so IF we're talking 5K troops, the Diversion has to be 500).
Attack a narrow band of the city limit. Bomb it accordingly. 500 guys need at least a 1 km large pathway. The diversion barrage has to be longer than the actual Investment barrage. The effect has to be continuous.
The manoeuvre group needs to be very large. In typical Israeli fashion they would put half the troops on it. And usually have small bursts of artillery prep, in order to make that one look like the actual Diversion. Normally the Manoeuvre group needs to take at least a quarter of the city perimetre in order to both stretch the defenders and also, open up the observation channels. So basically, the Maoeuvre group will have to invest the city, not the streets.
First very big mistake that most militaries still make. DON'T. WALK. THROUGH. THE. STREETS. Try to bypass arteries by blowing up walls, barriers, apartments what ever. The Manoeuvre group would thus invest, not clear.
Investing, unlike clearing, doesn't reciprocate the communicating vases' principle. It takes more men to do, but insures much more effect on target.
There are some funny things on the EW-side a military can use. The possibilities, if you're ready to take it in the chin, are endless.
We would have to actually divide manoeuvres by their use and goal in order to talk about them.