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    Post  lancelot Fri Jan 07, 2022 3:31 pm

    There is plenty of coal in China proper and they can import from Mongolia, Russia, and North Korea if they need to.
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    Post  lyle6 Fri Jan 07, 2022 5:48 pm

    kvs wrote:
    2) Why would the power plants be short of coal?  This is a tropical country where there is basically no weather change aside from
    the monsoon cycle.   According to an Indonesian acquaintance of mine, they introduced a weather report on TV which was then
    removed since it had basically no value.  
    We might not require heating but the entire day almost everyone would have air conditioners turned on, which between the reduced thermal efficiency from the ambient temperature and the copper losses puts a massive strain on the electricity demand. If you can't afford A/C you get a fan, or better yet, go to the mall, which are everywhere even in the provinces nowadays.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sat Jan 08, 2022 1:39 am

    lyle6 wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    2) Why would the power plants be short of coal?  This is a tropical country where there is basically no weather change aside from
    the monsoon cycle.   According to an Indonesian acquaintance of mine, they introduced a weather report on TV which was then
    removed since it had basically no value.  
    We might not require heating but the entire day almost everyone would have air conditioners turned on, which between the reduced thermal efficiency from the ambient temperature and the copper losses puts a massive strain on the electricity demand. If you can't afford A/C you get a fan, or better yet, go to the mall, which are everywhere even in the provinces nowadays.

    The good ole' "I went to the store just for the air conditioning!" lmao, yes yes I know I've been guilty of doing that lol!

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    Post  kvs Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:30 am

    lyle6 wrote:
    kvs wrote:
    2) Why would the power plants be short of coal?  This is a tropical country where there is basically no weather change aside from
    the monsoon cycle.   According to an Indonesian acquaintance of mine, they introduced a weather report on TV which was then
    removed since it had basically no value.  
    We might not require heating but the entire day almost everyone would have air conditioners turned on, which between the reduced thermal efficiency from the ambient temperature and the copper losses puts a massive strain on the electricity demand. If you can't afford A/C you get a fan, or better yet, go to the mall, which are everywhere even in the provinces nowadays.

    My point was about the change in weather driving a change in coal use. In Europe there are severe cold spells that spike the demand
    for fossil fuels. Heat waves and blocking events do the same thing as we saw last summer when the wind power dropped because
    of reduced winds. The weather in the tropics dos not fluctuate like this. Hurricanes and typhoons are another question but Indonesian
    coal supply was not disrupted by typhoons.
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    Post  par far Sat Jan 08, 2022 2:37 am

    kvs wrote:

    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/indonesia-ban-export-coal-shortage-energy-power-2410306

    Indonesia bans coal exports in January on domestic power worries

    The Indonesian Coal Mining Association (ICMA) called on the energy minister to revoke the export ban, saying in a statement the policy was "taken hastily without being discussed with business players".

    The widespread export ban may disrupt monthly coal production volumes of around 38 million to 40 million tonnes, said ICMA chairman Pandu Sjahrir. In recent years, Indonesia has exported about 30 million tonnes of coal in the month of January.

    The association said it was also concerned about potential disputes with buyers if coal producers declared force majeure for not being able to deliver coal exports.

    "Ships sailing to Indonesian waters will also experience conditions of uncertainty and this would affect Indonesia's reputation and reliability as world's coal supplier," Sjahrir said.

    Indonesia is a US stooge state.   This has been the case after the US engineered the bloody coup during the 1960s.
    This move with the coal is clearly an attempt to disrupt China.  

    1) Covid has not affected coal mining output in the country

    2) Why would the power plants be short of coal?  This is a tropical country where there is basically no weather change aside from
    the monsoon cycle.   According to an Indonesian acquaintance of mine, they introduced a weather report on TV which was then
    removed since it had basically no value.  

    Yet another engineered shortage to push the Reset agenda.



    Great opportunity for Russia and Donbass.

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    Post  kvs Wed Jan 12, 2022 2:17 am



    Good analysis of the negotiations with the Americans over a new security treaty. It is clear that the Americans and
    their minions are not grasping how serious things are. They think that Putin is posturing to secure his "tyranny".
    They also do not appreciate that the scope is not Ukraine.

    Russia's response will not involve recognition of the independence of the LNR and DNR in the Donbass. Russia is
    invested in the Minsk Agreement and does not consider breaking it. Giving NATzO and the Kiev regime an out
    does not serve Russia's interests. But as demonstrated in Kazakhstan, Russia will fight Washington and minion
    regime change efforts in the former space. This implies Russia will engage in counter regime change operations
    itself. Again, this is evident in the case of Kazakhastan with the "demotion" of Nazarbaev. Now Toakaev is fully
    in charge. However, Russia will not try to regime change the west.

    The interviewer points out that the west is unable to engage in any security discussion with Russia since everything
    is hysterically charged. So if the optics are not conforming to NATzO narratives, there can be no "surrender" on these
    points.

    Russia is prepared to engage a military response and that is why it is giving NATzO a chance to avoid such a response.
    We do not know what specific reaction will come from Russia, but it will be quick and unexpected.

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    Post  andalusia Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:10 pm

    This is interesting: https://www.yahoo.com/news/inside-secretive-training-us-green-001933259.html
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    Post  kvs Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:24 am



    Russia is dumping the OSCE. Earlier it booted this NATzO proxy from the border between Russia and the LDNR. Now
    it has officially state that it will not discuss any security issues in the frame of this organization. The OSCE is
    amorphous and does not have international legal weight. We already have the UN.

    The OSCE has been engaged in anti-Russian propaganda operations as it was against Serbia in 1999 and acts
    as spy agency for NATzO sponsored outfits like the UCK in Kosovo and the Kiev regime in the Donbass. I recall
    some clown comment in a Youtube thread by a NATzO drone that there was no OSCE report on Kiev regime
    shelling of civilians. That's NATzO tards for you, living in a propaganda and censorship bubble.

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    Post  GarryB Thu Jan 20, 2022 7:53 pm

    This is interesting

    They have been helping terrorists for some time now...

    Sometimes on both sides of a conflict when they change sides... when the Soviets were in Afghanistan they helped the Northern Alliance, but after the Soviets left and the NA ended up fighting the Taliban, the NA became the enemy, but then of course the Taliban helped OBL and got banished to the naughty step... and everyone who was fighting the Taliban got help...


    Russia is dumping the OSCE.

    About time.
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    Post  flamming_python Sat Jan 22, 2022 8:39 pm

    kvs wrote:

    https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/indonesia-ban-export-coal-shortage-energy-power-2410306

    Indonesia bans coal exports in January on domestic power worries

    The Indonesian Coal Mining Association (ICMA) called on the energy minister to revoke the export ban, saying in a statement the policy was "taken hastily without being discussed with business players".

    The widespread export ban may disrupt monthly coal production volumes of around 38 million to 40 million tonnes, said ICMA chairman Pandu Sjahrir. In recent years, Indonesia has exported about 30 million tonnes of coal in the month of January.

    The association said it was also concerned about potential disputes with buyers if coal producers declared force majeure for not being able to deliver coal exports.

    "Ships sailing to Indonesian waters will also experience conditions of uncertainty and this would affect Indonesia's reputation and reliability as world's coal supplier," Sjahrir said.

    Indonesia is a US stooge state.   This has been the case after the US engineered the bloody coup during the 1960s.
    This move with the coal is clearly an attempt to disrupt China.  

    1) Covid has not affected coal mining output in the country

    2) Why would the power plants be short of coal?  This is a tropical country where there is basically no weather change aside from
    the monsoon cycle.   According to an Indonesian acquaintance of mine, they introduced a weather report on TV which was then
    removed since it had basically no value.  

    Yet another engineered shortage to push the Reset agenda.


    Fits in with it declining Su-35 purchases

    Now that the world is dividing along bipolar lines the Indonesians made their choice. Probably another elite in power there with bank accounts in Switzerland, kids in British boarding schools and snazzy apartments abroad that they don't want to lose.

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    Post  George1 Yesterday at 2:00 pm

    Russia to make serious political decisions, if US reply is disappointing — senior diplomat

    https://tass.com/politics/1391513


    Lavrov reiterates Russia’s demand for NATO to stop expanding at meeting with Blinken


    https://tass.com/politics/1391561


    Belarus’ Lukashenko warns West against attacking Union State


    https://tass.com/world/1391629

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