Interestingly they say Kazan has more missile tubes presumably meaning compared to Severodvinsk & that they fire Onyx presumably also implying Severodvinsk doesn't?!

hoom wrote:There was a 4 year gap between Kazan being laid down (July 2009) and Novosibirsk (July 2013) so unless its progressing super quick probably not.
Should be a lot quicker than the previous 2 though.
hoom wrote:RT put out the Kazan Military Acceptance video but with some english narration & subtitles
Interestingly they say Kazan has more missile tubes presumably meaning compared to Severodvinsk & that they fire Onyx presumably also implying Severodvinsk doesn't?!![]()
They know but they don't because the new sub is undetectable by SOSUS & Royal Navy sonar.Earlier this year, it was revealed that there has been a tenfold increase in Russian submarine activity in UK waters since 2015. But the actual numbers and the locations visited by Russian submarines remain classified for security reasons.
Hole wrote:The channel is not UK waters. It is an international waterway. Stupid island monkeys!![]()
Isos wrote:Hole wrote:The channel is not UK waters. It is an international waterway. Stupid island monkeys!![]()
They should send an old SSBN there on surface 24/7 all the year full of ICBM just to piss them offThey would have to have a constant surveillance on it and use all their navy ships for that.
Hole wrote:
Great idea. Imagine the Donskoy travelling around the british isles for four month. The NSH would break down because hundreds of politicans and journalists would get a stroke or heart attack.![]()
No. Its half UK territorial waters, half French.The channel is not UK waters. It is an international waterway. Stupid island monkeys! Mad
No. The claim is that a ship (Kazan the only launched Yasen-A) thats never even set sail on trials yet has been poking around inside UK territorial waters undetected but they know its been happening *somehow*.Considering this, you'd expect even stronger presence in Scottish waters. After all, it's perfectly consistent with the increase in Russian air force activity around the world.
No. Its better to just keep doing perfectly innocent unthreatening passages like they have been.They should send an old SSBN there on surface 24/7 all the year full of ICBM just to piss them off
GarryB wrote:Novachok is useless... it only kills one in 5 people who come in to contact with it... the one killed has to spray large amounts on themselves before it becomes effective...
Ships including military have the right to pass through but its still actually entering territorial waters.
On September 24, 2018, for the first time, the main underwater cruiser K-561 "Kazan", the modified project 08851 (885M, the code "Yasen-M"), built at JSC "Production Association" Northern Machine Building " enterprise "(SMP). goes to the factory sea trials from Severodvinsk
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The withdrawal of the nuclear submarine "Kazan" from the workshop of the Northern Sea Fleet to the launching dock "Sukhona" was carried out on March 31, 2017, and the ship's fusical descent to water from the floating dock was carried outApril 8, 2017.
Territorial Waters = 12nm = 22.2km & the channel is only about 33km wide at the narrowest point.
In February 1988, Caron operating with Yorktown, entered Soviet 7 miles ) territorial waters limit in the Black Sea off the Crimean Peninsula. Under international law, this act could be permissible if the ship was progressing from one point in international waters to another point in international waters...