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    Project 885: Yasen class

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    Post  xeno Sun Jan 19, 2014 9:23 pm

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Eszvr4jVC1I

    Project 885: Yasen class - Page 11 Ddunnd10
    885 shooting Onyx at 3:13
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    Post  navyfield Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:44 pm

    can it shoot them submerged ,? the trials are taking too long...
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    Post  zg18 Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:31 pm

    navyfield wrote:can it shoot them submerged ,? the trials are taking too long...

    http://s006.radikal.ru/i215/1306/aa/729c333d1920.jpg

    http://blogs.ottawacitizen.com/2014/01/02/new-russian-nuclear-attack-submarine-delivered/

    LOL Someone is stuck in past when it comes to trolling  Smile
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    Post  GarryB Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:19 am

    can it shoot them submerged ,? the trials are taking too long...

    Is designed to be fired submerged... only fired while surfaced as part of this test.

    What is the hurry?
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    Post  Viktor Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:09 pm

    More testing for Yassen ...

    Nuclear submarine "Severodvinsk" class "Ash" will be fighting in the Navy during the second half of 2014 - a source in the defense industry


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    Post  navyfield Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:36 pm

    zg18 wrote:
    navyfield wrote:can it shoot them submerged ,? the trials are taking too long...

    http://s006.radikal.ru/i215/1306/aa/729c333d1920.jpg

    http://blogs.ottawacitizen.com/2014/01/02/new-russian-nuclear-attack-submarine-delivered/

    LOL Someone is stuck in past when it comes to trolling  Smile
    kalibr launch
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    Post  gaurav Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:23 pm


    885 shooting Onyx at 3:13
    Hi Xeno,
    We cannot conclude whether it is kalibre or "socalled onyx" ..
    the clip is extremely small duration .. couple of seconds.
    The acceleration and speed gain of the missile is not shown.
    bUT I must point out that this ..
    A really an eye opening video clip of advance  launch mechanisms of the newest Russian killer missiles.
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    Post  TR1 Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:41 pm

    Onix...it has that distinctive pop up, change trajectory and accelerate launch profile.
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    Post  xeno Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:47 pm

    Onix has a very unique launching profile.
    Project 885: Yasen class - Page 11 Yakhon10
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFVhj2NMi60
    Watching 10 times you can find whether it is onix/yakhon/brahmos or something else very easily...
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    Post  gaurav Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:17 am

    Yes Correct.
    Yes the launch profiles proves that it onyx only.
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    Post  Vann7 Sat Jan 25, 2014 12:35 pm



    Here is a Yakhont launch.. looks similar to the photo..  Smile 

    https://youtu.be/4AW1XHUcAsQ

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    Post  GarryB Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:26 am

    Onix, Yakhont, and Brahmos all have the same launch profile.

    They are blown up out of the tube launcher by a rocket booster.

    A side thruster rocket near the nose of the missile then fires and turns the rocket in the direction it is heading and fires in the opposite direction so the missile stops at about horizontal pointing towards its target and the main solid rocket booster fires up to accelerate it towards its target so that when it burns out the main ramjet engine can be started to accelerate the missile to full speed.

    The launch is very similar to the all rocket TOR SAM, which also uses nose mounted thrusters to direct its nose towards the target before the main engine fires.

    The main difference is that the Onyx, Yakhont, Brahmos also has a nose cover that is jettisonned for the ramjet engine.
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    Post  KomissarBojanchev Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:29 am

    Any news on the progress made on the Kazan? Will these be the only 2-3 yasens put into service in this decade?

    BTW why are we so happy and view it as a great achievement that a single sub that has been in construction and testing for almost 21 years is finally in service? Shouldn't we feel ashamed?
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    Post  TR1 Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:39 am

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:Any news on the progress made on the Kazan? Will these be the only 2-3 yasens put into service in this decade?

    At most: Four.
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    Post  TR1 Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:39 am

    KomissarBojanchev wrote:

    BTW why are we so happy and view it as a great achievement that a single sub that has been in construction and testing for almost 21 years is finally in service? Shouldn't we feel ashamed?

    It has not been in construction for 21 years, for starters.

    Shame? Well, up to you.
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    Post  navyfield Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:08 pm

    USA can easily assign 3-4 hunters into a wolfpack and track white elephant yasens everywhere.
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    Post  navyfield Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:09 pm

    TR1 wrote:
    KomissarBojanchev wrote:Any news on the progress made on the Kazan? Will these be the only 2-3 yasens put into service in this decade?

    At most: Four.
    i wonder is even 2 will have a pumpjet...
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    Post  TR1 Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:15 pm

    navyfield wrote:USA can easily assign 3-4 hunters into a wolfpack and track white elephant yasens everywhere.

    Based on what? Your knowledge of the Yasens actual noise characteristics?

    Or are you, like always, trolling and talking out of your ass?
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    Post  collegeboy16 Mon Jan 27, 2014 1:49 am

    navyfield wrote:USA can easily assign 3-4 hunters into a wolfpack and track white elephant yasens everywhere.
    haha 3-4 attack subs wont cut it, esp. if they have roughly similiar noise characterisitcs.
    Also, white elephant? I doubt it, its more like 3/8s a Kirov's VLS firepower plus the Akula's firepower molded into a hull thats as or even stealthier than Virginia. (3.5 billion $ Yasen's price - 2.7 billion $ Virginia's price =) .8$ billion dollars never looked so well spent. Twisted Evil 
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    Post  GarryB Mon Jan 27, 2014 9:13 am

    Excellent... let them send 10 SSNs after each Yasen... while the Boreys obilterate their homeland.... Razz 
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    Post  gaurav Fri Jan 31, 2014 2:55 pm

    Yasen(first boat) will be accepted into service by 2016..


    Headache multipurpose nuclear submarine of project 885 "Yasen" - "Severodvinsk" will be transferred to the
    Russian Navy at the end of next year


    Pilot operation head multipurpose nuclear submarine of project 885 "Yasen" - "Severodvinsk" is completed late next year, said the
    vice-president of the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) Igor Ponomarev. "We spent the entire set of tests on this boat test
    program has been fully implemented, the act of closing the test signed by the chairman of the selection committee. Boat adopted in
    trial operation Navy. We leave it in the factory at the time of the ice, and then she goes to perform tasks that required the Navy.
    After completing these tasks, it will be accepted into service "- said I.Ponomarev. According to him, a schedule of trial operation, which
    will be coordinated with the Navy Command. "I think the end of next year", - said I.Ponomarev, specifying the time of transmission to the Navy.

    Experts can dwell what other things apart from missiles need to be tested.
    If this is the case with severodvinsk.. I donno what the hell will be the status of Kazan project.It will be accepted by 2020.. Shocked
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    Post  TR1 Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:47 pm

    Kazan is first serial boat, it won't have nearly the same testing regime and trials period as Severodvinsk.
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    Post  Viktor Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:26 pm

     thumbsup 

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    Post  flamming_python Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:00 pm

    TR1 wrote:
    navyfield wrote:USA can easily assign 3-4 hunters into a wolfpack and track white elephant yasens everywhere.

    Based on what?  Your knowledge of the Yasens actual noise characteristics?

    Or are you, like always, trolling and talking out of your ass?

    No, you got it wrong - the ass is talking out of him  Smile 
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    Post  gaurav Sun Feb 16, 2014 6:11 pm

    Copy pasting from Janes .. may be  experience members comment ..on this..
    I believe 100 % that something is not right in this whole process of  pr885 Yasen submarine.

    The submarine was accepted only for trial runs and not commissioned by Navy
    Trial  runs of pr885 yasen will continue till 2015 .. Shocked 


    Delay in accepting Severodvinsk could slow new Russian SSN deliveries

    The Russian Navy accepted Severodvinsk (K 329), the first Project 885 Yasen-class nuclear-powered attack submarine (SSN), for "experimental use" on 30 December 2013, according to reports from state-run news agencies.

    A defence industry source told RIA Novosti that an "act of acceptance-transfer" was signed, with a navy representative reporting this also to ITAR-TASS. Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin confirmed the acceptance of Severodvinsk on 31 December. However, builder Sevmash did not mark the occasion with a ceremony or a press release.

    In November 2013, IHS Jane's reported that state-owned United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) had insisted that Severodvinsk would be delivered in 2013, despite reports that the boat would not be ready until 2014.

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