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    Project 885: Yasen class

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    Post  Austin Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:41 pm

    885M will have new weapon system like new 5th Gen Torpedoes and Decoys as well as new Hypersonic Anti-Ship Missile Zircon-S

    http://www.interfax.com/newsinf.asp?id=386996

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    We plan fifth generation torpedoes Fizik, produce small-sized anti-boat torpedoes, fifth generation torpedoes Lomonos, and a hydroacoustic suppression code Berilliy using a torpedo carrier before the end of 2017," the source said.

    Some torpedoes, in particular, Fizik-1 or product 2534, were ready five years ago, but are still no being used by the Russian Navy, despite the appearance of Fifik-2 with a new engine.

    http://rusnavy.com/nowadays/concept/analysis/rusnavysurpassus/index.php?print=Y

    according to a high-ranking official, experts of appropriate agencies "are developing design of a new 5-generation SSN and a new destroyer"; by the way "basic weapon of those projects will be advanced shipborne missile system Caliber operating both antiship cruise missiles 3M-54 and long-range cruise missiles 3M-14 capable to destroy enemy's land objects". Moreover, "development of Zircon-S ship-based hypersonic missile system is also scheduled", said Popovkin.

    Ofcourse expect the current Kalbir Cruise Missile and Oniks Supersonic Cruise missile will also get some incremental upgrades.
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    Post  gaurav Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:58 pm

    Thanks Comrade Austin. Very Happy 

    Quite Good links . The interfax link was the most recent one.
    The interfax link was far authoritative as it was directly coming from a source .
    That Shipbuilding link was somewhat a 'writeup' but atleast it mentions the name Zircon. thumbsup 

    Perhaps only time will tell. But thats a bad joke in any case
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    Post  Austin Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:08 pm

    Zircon-S is quoting Popvkin who was taking care of defence industry till he moved to space in 2011-2012 ,like Rogozin is taking care of Defence Industry now.

    So Ziron-S is officially communicated as under development. Ofcourse we should not forget Hypersonic brahmos too will be available.
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    Post  TR1 Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:16 pm

    I have yet to see Rogozin take care of anything yet.

    He just tweets nonsense and drives around the country for photo-ops.
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    Post  Russian Patriot Sun Jul 28, 2013 10:18 pm

    TR1 wrote:I have yet to see Rogozin take care of anything yet.

    He just tweets nonsense and drives around the country for photo-ops.

    Its called image of corruption Very Happy
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    Post  TR1 Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:07 pm

    http://vz.ru/news/2013/7/30/643410.html

    Sevmash: VMF will get Kazan in 2017.


    My earlier predictions that ya'll called pessimistic? I am downgrading them further. VMF will likely have 3 885s in service by 2020.
    At best? 4.


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    Post  ricky123 Fri Aug 09, 2013 1:32 am

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    Large-scale construction of the next-generation Project 885 Yasen-class multi-purpose nuclear attack submarine, armed with Onyx supersonic cruise missiles has begun in Russia. The ships will compete with the latest American Seawolf-class nuclear submarines in terms of their noise profile and will be world leaders in terms of fire power. Moscow plans to acquire at least 10 of these boats by 2020. The fourth submarine in this class was laid down in Severodvinsk on the eve of Navy Day, which was celebrated on the last Sunday in July.
    The Project 885 nuclear submarine is the quintessence of everything the Russian military industrial complex has achieved in over half a century of building submarines. The vessel has a hull made from high-resilience low-magnetic steel, and so can dive to a depth of more than 600 metres (conventional boats cannot go deeper than 300 metres), which effectively puts it out of reach of all types of modern anti-submarine weapons. Its maximum speed is more than 30 knots (about 60 kilometres per hour). The nuclear submarine is equipped with an escape pod for the whole crew

    The Russian designers say that the Yasen is not only quieter than the Project 971 Akula, but also quieter than the latest American Seawolf nuclear submarine. Moreover, unlike those vessels, the new missile submarine will be more functional thanks to the weapons at its disposal (several types of cruise missile and torpedo) and will be able to fulfil a wide range of roles at sea.

    Formidable

    The Akula nuclear submarine is currently the most important of the Russian multi-purpose attack submarines designed for raiding operations against sea lanes. Virtually inaudible in the depths of the ocean, they are equally effective against transport vessels and warships, and can also hit the enemy’s coastal infrastructure with cruise missiles. Akula submarines were recently spotted within the 200-mile zone of the coasts of the United States and Canada, which caused a serious commotion among the countries’ respective militaries. Having discovered the presence of these ‘guests,’ neither of them was able to track their movement, which naturally caused serious concern. After all, the Akula carries on board 28 Kh-55 Granat cruise missiles, the equivalent of the American Tomahawk, which can fly 3000 km and deliver 200-kilotonne nuclear warheads to their targets.

    Invulnerable


    The main attack system on the Yasen is the P-800 Onyx, the latest Russian supersonic cruise missile. This missile is the base version for two absolutely identical export versions in terms of their appearance: the Russian Yakhont and the Indian BrahMos, although with significantly reduced combat characteristics. These devices are capable of being fired from under water. They fly at a speed of 750 metres per second and carry a devastating high-explosive warhead weighing half a tonne. They have a range of more than 600 kilometres.

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    The Onyx is guided to its target by a navigational system that operates on target designation data, that is inputted provisionally to the missile before it is launched. At a predetermined point in the trajectory (25–80 kilometres), the missile’s homing device is briefly activated and determines the precise location of the target. The homing device is activated again after a sharp reduction in altitude of 5–15 metres, just seconds before it hits the enemy. This is to ensure that when the enemy detects the missile’s launch it cannot ‘jam’ the missile with electronic countermeasures

    ‘Wolf pack’

    But it’s not its high speed or the protection of its homing device against electronic countermeasures that makes the Onyx a super-modern weapon.
    Once it is launched from the submarine, the missile finds the target by itself. After determining their coordinates, the missiles ‘wait’ until the last one is out of the launch tubes and then line up, just like a wolf pack, and begin to ‘home in on their prey’. The designers are not really advertising this point, but it’s the missiles themselves that decide which missile attacks which target and how. The missile ‘pack’ decides these targets, classifies them in terms of importance, and selects the tactics for the attack and the plan for its execution.

    In order to prevent mistakes, the missile’s on-board computer system is programmed with electronic data on all modern classes of ship. This is purely tactical information – for example, on the class of vessel. This enables the missiles to determine what they are up against, whether it be an aircraft-carrier or landing group, and then to attack the main targets within the group. The Onyx missile’s on-board computer also holds data on how to counter the enemy’s electronic warfare systems, which can divert a missile from its target, and systems for evading anti-aircraft defence systems.

    At the same time, like wolves in a real pack, the missiles themselves decide which one of them is the main attacker and which one must take the role of the decoy to lure the enemy’s aircraft and air defence systems away. Once the main selected target has been destroyed, the other missiles immediately redistribute the combat assignments between themselves and begin to destroy other vessels.
    There is no ship in the world that can dodge an attack by Onyx missiles. Yes, ship-borne radar systems can detect that they have been launched, but then further resistance is useless. The speed of these missiles and the way they constantly manoeuvre above the surface of the sea makes it practically impossible to intercept them with air defence systems or aircraft.

    Universal

    Another advantage of the Onyx missile is that it can be used with various types of carriers. In Russia, it is installed not only in submarines but also on surface vessels and mobile land-based platforms – the Bastion shore-based missile systems. It’s the presence of these systems in Syria that so worries Washington today.
    Onyx will also be included in the weaponry of the Su-30MK family of fighters and the latest Su-34 frontline bombers. But the most important thing is that the next generation following the Onyx is already on its way. This is the Zircon, the first hypersonic combat missile system, for which testing is due to start next year.

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    Post  Vann7 Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:33 am

    TR1 wrote:Harpoons do not have range anywhere near 1200km.

    You are thinking of Naval Anti-ship Tomahawk, which was retired in any case.
    oh yes.. your correct.. that is.

    And which Kaliber missile Russia working with a long range beyond 2,000 km?


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    Post  George1 Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:58 pm

    Russian Attack Submarine to Finish Sea Trials This Year – Maker

    MOSCOW, October 8 (RIA Novosti) – Russia’s first Project 885M Yasen-class attack submarine, the Severodvinsk, will complete final trials in November or December, after which a government commission will decide whether to adopt it for service with the navy, the United Shipbuilding Corporation said Tuesday.

    Media reports previously said the navy main command refused to commission the nuclear-powered Severodvinsk over unspecified technical problems.

    The submarine has completed four rounds of sea trials since May 30, the manufacturer said, adding that all the trials had been a success.

    The submarine’s armament will include 3M55 Oniks (SS-N-26) and 3M54 (SS-N-27) Kalibr cruise missiles and conventional torpedoes, rocket torpedoes and mines, according to its designer, Malakhit.

    The second Project 885M submarine, the Kazan, has been under construction at the Sevmash shipyard since 2009.
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    Post  TR1 Thu Oct 17, 2013 1:41 am

    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=355915&download=2&type=.jpg
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    Post  runaway Thu Oct 17, 2013 12:14 pm

    On November 9, 2011 Russia signed a contract for 4 Yasen class submarines to be delivered by 2016

    And as the Novosibirsk was only laid downed this year, maybe ready 2020. For 3 subs.. Insane long time. Or just maybe nr 3 and 4 can come down to 4 years like Akulas in the late 80´s, they just cant continue to take 8 years per sub.
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    Post  George1 Thu Oct 17, 2013 2:13 pm

    runaway wrote:On November 9, 2011 Russia signed a contract for 4 Yasen class submarines to be delivered by 2016

    And as the Novosibirsk was only laid downed this year, maybe ready 2020. For 3 subs.. Insane long time. Or just maybe nr 3 and 4 can come down to 4 years like Akulas in the late 80´s, they just cant continue to take 8 years per sub.
    maybe they work on another project, a lighter submarine than the yasen
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    Post  TR1 Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:34 am

    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=359067&download=2&type=.jpg
    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=359068&download=2&type=.jpg
    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=359069&download=2&type=.jpg

    Great pics of the Beast going out for the latest trials....hopefully there has been headway on the numerous difficulties encountered.
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    Post  Austin Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:21 am

    Oniks test is still remaining AFAIK.

    Good Luck to the crew and Yasen for the state test.
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    Post  TR1 Thu Nov 07, 2013 6:19 am

    Yeah I think only Kalibr has been fired yet.

    However what is curious is :

    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=329384&download=2&type=.jpg

    This pic indicates the tubes are vertical, not angled as suspected.
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    Post  Austin Thu Nov 07, 2013 6:32 am

    The VLS tubes were always vertical in Yasen and not angled as in Oscar.
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    Post  TR1 Thu Nov 07, 2013 7:59 am

    I was under the impression they were expected to be slightly angled....this is what happens when you read too much military crap, gets mixed up Smile.

    Also, Anteii Austin, Anteii!
    Much more badass name than Oscar imo.
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    Post  GarryB Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:34 am

    UKSK is vertical tube... only the older Granits liked to run up angled ramps on launch.
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    Post  TR1 Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:22 pm

    Severodvinsk shot Onix on the 8th of this month!
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    Post  Austin Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:53 am

    Any more info on Oniks firing ?
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    Post  Viktor Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:41 pm

    Austin wrote:Any more info on Oniks firing ?
    "Severodvinsk" shot out a long-awaited "Onyx"
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    Post  Austin Tue Nov 19, 2013 1:43 pm

    Hmm Yes I saw that later but range of missile tested to not mentioned
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    Post  Viktor Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:01 pm

    Austin wrote:Hmm Yes I saw that later but range of missile tested to not mentioned
    I know. When you see it, when was the last time you read about the range of Russia antiship missiles for domestic use of any kind? Very Happy

    Such sort of information is known only in general.
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