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    Post  Sujoy Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:47 pm



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    Post  GarryB Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:35 am

    That raises something that has been bothering me for a while.

    The cruise missiles of the Soviet Union were different for each branch of the military, so the air force had the Kh-55 and later Kh-55SD and Kh-555 and in the early 2000s they tested and approved the Kh-101 and Kh-102 long range cruise missiles into service.

    In the Navy they had the Granat or SS-N-22 cruise missile which has evolved into the Klub and Kalibr missile family that can be launched from the standardised UKSK launcher along with the Onyx/Brahmos/Yakont.

    Now it says the cruise missile on the Yasen class subs has a range of up to 5,000km... does that mean that they have a new variant of Kalibr that has double the range of Granat (note Granat is the subsonic cruise missile with a 2,500km range and nuclear warhead... not the Granit, which is a 7 ton Mach 2+ anti ship missile).

    Or does it mean that the Kh-101 and Kh-102 can be launched by the UKSK unified launcher?

    There has been a huge drive to standardise in the new Russian military and missiles and artillery are now shared across the services... the 30mm cannon shell (30 x 165mm) is one example, but the new Morfei missile which will be a point defence missile at sea and on land and a short range AAM for the air force takes it to a new level... you have to ask are they unifying their cruise missiles too?

    More interesting is that the INF treaty banned intermediate range missiles... ballistic and cruise missiles with a flight range of 500km to 5,500km... a ground launched cruise missile with a flight range of 6,000km would be perfectly legally deployed and very cheap to make and operate.
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    Post  TR1 Wed Jun 05, 2013 4:24 am

    I think it is journalistic nonsense for now.
    Only way the boat will have that sort of range- if they navalize Kh-101. That has clearly not happened yet, so I think Kalibr range is what we have.
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    Post  TR1 Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:16 am

    Launch pics!

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    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=337152&download=2&type=.jpg
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    Post  TR1 Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:36 am

    http://www.balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attachment.php?item=337244&download=2&type=.jpg

    Trials, same time as pics above.
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    Post  GarryB Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:34 am

    Interesting, surface launching cruise missiles from their UKSK launchers.

    These launchers can fire 50km range ballistic rocket mounted torpedoes in the anti sub role, subsonic long range cruise missiles and anti ship missiles (Kalibre and Klub) and supersonic anti ship (Klub and Yakhont) and supersonic land attack and anti ship missiles (Onyx, and Brahmos).
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    Post  TR1 Tue Jun 18, 2013 5:09 am

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    Post  gaurav Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:09 am


    In the Navy they had the Granat or SS-N-22 cruise missile which has evolved into the Klub and Kalibr missile family that can be launched from the standardised UKSK launcher along with the Onyx/Brahmos/Yakont.

    PROJECT 885 has uksk universal launchers.
    But project 885M has different specifications.This information is confusing since long time.
    They are not clear in what differences are betweek Pr 885 and Pr 885 . 

    Now it says the cruise missile on the Yasen class subs has a range of up to 5,000km... does that mean that they have a new variant of Kalibr that has double the range of Granat (note Granat is the subsonic cruise missile with a 2,500km range and nuclear warhead... not the Granit, which is a 7 ton Mach 2+ anti ship missile).

    "ONE" of the cruise missile for Pr885 is Kaliber-P(K) whatever. It has a range of 2500 km.I dont know about other cruise missiles.


    Not much information is coming out.
    That Granit 7 ton missile was developed in 1970-80. I dont think(it is even possible to deploy that of pr885, every system is changed in that).Rolling Eyes


    The info about missile weapons is npt forth coming.
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    Post  Viktor Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:15 pm

    Launched work on 3rd project 885 - Novosibirsk (if I understand it correctly)

    According to todays plans Russian navy plans to have 7 project 885 by 2020 with more to follow afterwards. 

    \"Sevmash" lay a third nuclear submarine project "Ash" the Day of the Navy wrote:It is planned that in the future submarine project "Ash" will be the main Russian multipurpose nuclear submarines

    MOSCOW, June 25 - RIA Novosti. Bookmark "Sevmash" multipurpose nuclear submarine of "Ash", which received the name of "Novosibirsk", is scheduled for the Day of the Navy, celebrated this year on July 28, said on Tuesday the company's press service

    "This missile will be the third in a line of multi-purpose submarines of" Ash ", designed by the St. Petersburg Marine Engineering Bureau" Malachite ". <...> Head submarine series -" Severodvinsk "- is now undergoing government testing in the sea," - said in a statement.

    Clarifies that the submarine "Kazan", laid down in 2009, and work is continuing, it is in the main stacker shop "Sevmash".

    "Kazan" and "Novosibirsk" are based on the upgrade projects. The press service noted that the changes relate to the element base complex electronic equipment, upgraded equipment and materials, which will exclusively supply the Russian manufacturer.

    It is planned that in the future submarine project "Ash" will be the main Russian multipurpose nuclear submarines.

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    Post  gaurav Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:47 pm

    According to todays plans Russian navy plans to have 7 project 885 by 2020 with more to follow afterwards.
    Very costly ships these man ..  almost 2.5 billion usd /SHIP ..
     inspite of ruble devaluation work going on. . at full speed  Twisted Evil

    Max man..russia thumbsup
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    Post  Viktor Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:57 pm

    So 20 more days until we see the celebration

    A third nuclear submarine "Ash" plan to lay July 26
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    Post  Austin Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:52 pm

    Considering the amount of time they take to build this subs , they should lay down all the 7 885M class by 2015 so that by 2020 they would have all sub in service.
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    Post  Viktor Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:45 pm

    Interesting thing is that Russian new generation of winged cruise missiles fired from the sub/ship/air/ (and I would not exclude the word "ground" either) has range of

    5000+ km. Kalibr and Kh-101 and R-500 eventually (or much bigger after Russia quits INF) might have the same range. West has nothing to counter these threats.

    The Project 885 vessel is designed to launch conventional or nuclear warhead-bearing missiles up to 3,000 miles (5,000 kilometers), as well as effectively engage other submarines, surface warships and land-based targets.

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    Post  Austin Thu Jul 04, 2013 5:49 pm

    Kh-101 is an air launched missile.

    885M will carry Kalbir Missile which has a range of 2600 km and the infamous Hypersonic Zircon-M missile not sure where it stands.
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    Post  Viktor Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:34 pm

    Austin wrote:Kh-101 is an air launched missile.

    Yes I know, I was trying to make a point that it seems that new generation of Russian winged missiles (fired from subs, surface ships and air (that only leaves ground)) comes with 5000km range.

    Austin wrote:885M will carry Kalbir Missile which has a range of 2600 km and the infamous Hypersonic Zircon-M missile not sure where it stands.

    Well article could be wrong but according to it its 5000km range.
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    Post  TR1 Thu Jul 04, 2013 9:52 pm

    Austin wrote:Considering the amount of time they take to build this subs , they should lay down all the 7 885M class by 2015 so that by 2020 they would have all sub in service.

    Problem here is slip space considering Sevmash also is working on 955. And money. You can lay down 20 boats one year, if funding isn't stable it will take 20 years to finish them.

    I stick to my estimate that there will be 5 855 boats AT BEST in service by 2020. Probably 4.
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    Post  George1 Fri Jul 05, 2013 4:10 am

    Russia to Lay Down 3rd Yasen Class Nuclear Sub on July 26
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    Post  GarryB Fri Jul 05, 2013 11:24 am

    Kh-101 is an air launched missile.

    Onyx/Yakhont was originally a Sub launched missile and is now sub, ship, land, and air launched...

    The basic shape of the Kh-101/102 is not that much different from the other weapons the UKSK can carry and launch... and AFAIK is the only Russian 5,000km range cruise missile available ATM.
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    Post  Austin Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:16 pm

    Russia to put first Yasen-class nuclear-powered submarine in service on Dec 25
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    Post  TR1 Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:46 pm

    Cthulu comes back to port.

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    Post  GarryB Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:34 am

    Kh-101 is an air launched missile.

    It certainly is, but now that the motors for Russian cruise missiles are not longer made at Motor Sich then I suspect the new Kalibr uses a similar new engine to the Kh-101/102.
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    Post  Viktor Thu Jul 25, 2013 1:14 am

    Finally ... work has started on a third 885

    Bookmark third SSGN project "Ash"

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    Post  Viktor Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:55 pm

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    Post  Russian Patriot Sat Jul 27, 2013 11:30 pm

    New Russian Attack Sub to Have Advanced Sensors

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    13:08 26/07/2013

    MOSCOW, July 26 (RIA Novosti) – Russia's latest Project 885M Yasen-class attack submarine will have an advanced sonar system allowing it to detect enemy ships at an early stage, the submarine's engineering bureau said on Friday.

    The Novosibirsk, the third of eight Yasen-class boats (designated Graney-class by NATO), is to be laid down at the Sevmash shipyard near the White Sea on Friday.

    The boat's designer, the Malakhit Marine Engineering Bureau company said ahead of the ceremony that the new Yasen-M will be have an advanced design that would significantly increase its ability to detect enemy vessels at speeds far higher speed that those of its predecessors.

    Its bow section will be "acoustically clean" and will be entirely dedicated to housing sonar systems, with the torpedo systems relocated to another part of the boat, according to the company.

    In order to reduce noise and increase its stealth capability, new power supply and acoustic defense systems have been developed for the boat, Malakhit said.

    In addition to the torpedo tubes, the Yasen class will be armed with a multirole missile system including a vertical-launcher for cruise missiles. Both the torpedo and missile tubes could be used "for a variety of weapons without being specially re-equipped," the company said.

    Sevmash plans to deliver the Severodvinsk, the first Yasen-class nuclear attack boat, by the end of this year.

    The submarine's armament will include 3M55 Oniks (SS-N-26) and 3M54 (SS-N-27) Kalibr cruise missiles and conventional torpedoes, rocket-torpedoes and mines, according to Malakhit.

    The second Project 885M vessel, the Kazan, was laid down in 2009 and is already under construction at the Sevmash shipyard in Severodvinsk.

    http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/library/news/russia/2013/russia-130726-rianovosti02.htm?_m=3n.002a.866.dd0ao031i6.sha
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    Post  gaurav Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:03 am


    New Russian Attack Sub to Have Advanced Sensors
    Thats good one. But still it does not tell about the weapon systems aboard the 885M project.


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