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    Post  AlfaT8 Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:16 pm

    nemrod wrote:I heard a couple of years ago, that the SU-35 would be -and will be- equipped with radio photonic radar.
    Can someone tell me if it is the case nowadays, please? If so, how long?

    Thx

    As far as i have heard Photonics is still in the works, there are enhancements for the Mig-29 and Su-30 radars available, can't recall what they were called, but there not Photonic.

    As for the Su-35, the Irbis is still incredibly capable, and from what i recall the first aircraft that's going to receive Photonics will be the Su-57.

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    Post  nemrod Tue Nov 10, 2020 9:13 pm

    [quote="AlfaT8"]
    nemrod wrote:

    As for the Su-35, the Irbis is still incredibly capable, and from what i recall the first aircraft that's going to receive Photonics will be the Su-57.
    Thx Alfa.
    Russia is not reputed to be particularly chatty. If the SU-57 has a radio photonic radar, it does mean the Russian SU-35 must have. The fact that above Syrian's sky, SU-35 detected F-22, meanwhile the F-22 could not, seems to indicate that SU-35 has.
    However, I do need confirmation.
    I will wait.
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    Post  kvs Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:06 pm

    The difference between Russia and the USA is that when you start to hear talk about radio-photonic radars that means
    they are not some rumination on a chalkboard but about to hit release.    America yapped about hypersonic systems for
    decades yet does not even have supersonic anti-ship missiles (as you noted elsewhere).   America is the land of snake
    oil salesmen and PR hype.   Russia is a "backward" country taught by over 1000 years of brutal history to be ready.

    And the failure of the USSR is not an actual failure.   The USSR was supposed to doom Russia to oblivion and was a
    PC cultural revolution (hence Trotsky) regime change operation sponsored by the US, UK, Germany and likely other
    frothing at the mouth Russian enemies.   They even had a direct analogue of Soros at the time pulling the same
    shit.  Trotsky was clearly a tool of Russia's western enemies and his tour to the USA to raise money demonstrates this.  
    Canada was supposed to extradite him to Russia for crimes of sedition but only detained him briefly to continue his
    fund raising tour. That he even got visas to tour the world shows you that he had backers. Supposedly being
    some revolutionary out to destroy capitalism means jack shit.   We see the US supporting jihadis that routinely chant
    death to America and western decadence.  

    Things went off the rails for the western masterminds when Stalin took over in 1925.  That is why Stalin is poured over
    with excrement to this day.   Just like Putin is when comprador bootlick Yeltsin, whose job was to destroy Russia, gets
    praises sung to his name.   The USSR was supposed to lose to the Nazis.   That is why Hitler was so cocksure about
    the USSR being a "rotten facade".   Hitler was also a tool of western elites and this was clear in the role of the USA
    and UK of propping him up during the 1930s. This includes giving him an ideological base from Eugenics.   We have
    bitching about some non-existent alliance between Hitler and Stalin supposedly proven by the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact,
    but the USSR never supplied whole factories and oil to Nazi Germany, it supplied food.   US companies were supplying
    the Nazis with oil even during WWII and US bankers were bankrolling Hitler from day one.   That is what Prescott Bush
    did and you see how his descendants became US presidents.  

    Russians made the USSR viable.   It would have disappeared before 1930 if the original plan was going to work.
    It was designed to crumble into pieces and the identity politics BS of making every regional dialect into a republic
    and cockamamie borders were precisely for this purpose.   That includes Nagorno-Karabakh and Novorussia.
    After the USSR finally went the way it was supposed to decades earlier thanks to the rotten ambitions of the
    nomenklatura who were "deprived" of being rich, Russia has managed to achieve what is basically not seen
    around the world, to change systems at the core level while in flight.   That's like rebuilding a standing house
    at the brick level.   And the precious west has not just been standing by the side doing nothing.  They have
    been trying to break up Russia as hard as they can.   Nobody but nobody in the whole of NATzO and most
    of the world expected Russia to revive like it has.   This is not some trivial accident.  That is the people
    working hard to make it happen.   Western imperial meddlers judge Russians by the standards of their own
    populations.  I would bet that any western country experiencing similar interference would have disintegrated.
    Westerners would not work for no pay like Russian defense workers during the 1990s which gave us the
    military innovation we have been seeing since then.   (People claiming Russia is coasting on Soviet legacy
    are full of shit).

    The above is on topic since technology reflects real human effort.   Not hype or chauvinism.

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    Post  LMFS Tue Nov 10, 2020 10:57 pm

    kvs wrote:The above is on topic since technology reflects real human effort.   Not hype or chauvinism.

    Off topic to me, but priceless respekt

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    Post  owais.usmani Sun Nov 15, 2020 5:54 pm

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    Post  PhSt Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:42 am

    Russian Defense Ministry receives last three Su-35S fighters under 5-year contract

    MOSCOW, November 25. /TASS/. The Russian Defense Ministry said it had received the last three Su-35S fighter jets (NATO reporting name: Flanker-E+) as part of the five-year contract for 50 such aircraft.

    "Specialists of the 485th military office of the Russian Defense Ministry accepted three Su-35S multirole fighter jets of the 4++ generation. The planes have been redeployed from the plant in Komsomolsk-on-Amur [in Russia’s Far East] to permanent bases of the Russian Aerospace Forces," the ministry said.

    The ministry said the delivery completes the five-year contract, under which the Russian Aerospace Forces were to receive 50 Su-35S fighter jets in total.

    Two fighter jets will be on duty at the Defense Ministry’s training and trials center in the Central Russian city of Lipetsk. The third one will continue its service at an air force regiment in Komsomolsk-on-Amur.

    The Su-35S is a heavily upgraded generation 4++ super-maneuverable multipurpose fighter jet developed on the basis of fifth-generation technologies. The Su-35S is distinguished by its new avionics suite based on an information control system, a new radar and plasma ignition engines of the increased capacity and thrust vectoring. These engines meet the requirements for the powerplant of fifth-generation fighters as they allow developing supersonic speed without using an afterburner.

    The Su-35S is designated to strike air, ground and naval targets and infrastructural facilities shielded by air defense systems and located at a considerable distance from home airfields.

    The Su-35S supersonic fighter jet performed its debut flight on February 19, 2008. The fighter jet is a derivative of the Su-27 plane. The Su-35S weighs 19 tonnes, has a service ceiling of 20,000 meters, can develop a maximum speed of 2,500 km/h and has a crew of one pilot. The fighter jet’s armament includes a 30mm aircraft gun, up to 8 tonnes of the weapon payload (missiles and bombs of various types) on 12 underwing hardpoints. The Su-35S has been in service with the Russian Army since 2015.

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    Post  George1 Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:45 pm

    I had the impression that there were 6 more to be delivered not 3, But probably we had an earlier delivery as well
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    Post  Isos Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:47 pm

    So what's the total number of su-35 in service ?
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    Post  George1 Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:55 pm

    Isos wrote:So what's the total number of su-35 in service ?

    if contracts have fullfiled then they are 98
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    Post  AMCXXL Wed Nov 25, 2020 4:45 pm

    George1 wrote:I had the impression that there were 6 more to be delivered not 3, But probably we had an earlier delivery as well
    Yes, probably other 3 were sent to Vladivostok one or two monts ago, because also several airplanes from Dzemgi regiment also were trasnferred to Tsentralnaya Uglovaya to raise a second Su-35 squadron

    The most probable is today are 98 in service in those units:
    24 Besovets
    12 Khotilovo
    22 Dzemgi
    17 Vladivostok
    8 Kubinka
    8 Lipetsk
    6 Akhtubisnk
    1 Zhukovsky

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    Post  franco Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:13 pm

    The six at Khmeimim are out of the Lipetsk and Akhtubinsk totals?

    Also there was a mention of Su-35 deliveries back the end of October or first of November on the MoD weekly report page.
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    Post  Hole Wed Nov 25, 2020 5:51 pm

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    Post  AMCXXL Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:02 pm

    franco wrote:The six at Khmeimim are out of the Lipetsk and Akhtubinsk totals?

    Also there was a mention of Su-35 deliveries back the end of October or first of November on the MoD weekly report page.

    The aircraft deployed in the Syrian Air Group are aircraft belonging to the regular regiments based in Russia, which rotate in Syria for periods of several months

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    Post  George1 Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:45 pm

    video of the last Su-35s delivered:


    As previously reported, on August 25, 2020, during the Army-2020 International Military-Technical Forum, the United Aircraft Corporation signed a new contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense for the supply of another 30 Su-35S fighters. According to the available data, the first five Su-35S under this contract are to be delivered to KnAAZ in 2021, the remaining 25 aircraft in 2022-2024.

    https://bmpd.livejournal.com/4196251.html

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    Post  ahmedfire Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:39 pm

    More to Egypt plz here russia

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    Post  LMFS Sat Nov 28, 2020 1:44 pm

    A pair of new Su-35s fighters arrived at the Lipetsk Aviation Center of the Russian Aerospace Forces

    Two new Su-35S fighters entered Lipetsk aviation center of the Aerospace Forces (VKS). This was reported by the press service of the Ministry of Defense.

    A pair of the newest Su-35S multipurpose fighters entered the State Center for Aviation Personnel Training and Military Tests of the Russian Ministry of Defense from the manufacturer. Crews of the Aerospace Forces completed relocation from the Khabarovsk Territory to the Lipetsk Region to the permanent deployment airfield

    https://en.topwar.ru/177562-para-novyh-istrebitelej-su-35s-pribyla-v-lipeckij-aviacionnyj-centr-vks-rf.html

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    Post  AMCXXL Sat Nov 28, 2020 6:32 pm

    LMFS wrote:A pair of new Su-35s fighters arrived at the Lipetsk Aviation Center of the Russian Aerospace Forces


    those are:

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    Post  Gomig-21 Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:34 pm

    AMCXXL wrote:

    those are:

    Su-35S: News - Page 36 10217910

    Such a beautiful and sexy deadly machine!  And to think of all the goodies that are in that thing especially the first thing that comes to mind for me is the ingenious development of the leading wing edge AESA radar to complement the IRBIS-E AND even the IRST.  When I first learned the Su-35S head that wing AESA radar, I thought that was one of the best, indigenous ideas to date.

    Also the other aspect are the perfection of the round and pointy shape of that radome.  The only other one that comes close to such perfection if the EFT2000's which also has some perfect curves to match the rest of the aircraft and finally, that light blue combination camo with the light grey is just outstanding.  Love it all and we're waiting for our 30 to arrive as soon as possible!  Dammit!  Hurry up, already! lool

    Oh, and the other rather noticeable thing is the anti-radiation, goldish, irridium effect in the glass canopy. Very noticeable in that photo as well and I believe the first time I started noticing Russian builders infuse that in their canopies was with the MiG-29m/35. Then I started noticing it on these Su-35SEs.

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    Post  GarryB Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:37 am

    Another advantage of gold plating the canopies is that if you put an electric current though it it doesn't steam up or ice up....

    But enemy radar signals are absorbed by the gold and converted into tiny amounts of heat apparently...
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    Post  Gomig-21 Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:25 pm

    GarryB wrote:Another advantage of gold plating the canopies is that if you put an electric current though it it doesn't steam up or ice up....

    But enemy radar signals are absorbed by the gold and converted into tiny amounts of heat apparently...

    It's quite noticeable in that picture, too.

    How many Su-35S' in the VVS now? Or what is the targeted quantity?
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    Post  George1 Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:26 pm

    Gomig-21 wrote:
    GarryB wrote:Another advantage of gold plating the canopies is that if you put an electric current though it it doesn't steam up or ice up....

    But enemy radar signals are absorbed by the gold and converted into tiny amounts of heat apparently...

    It's quite noticeable in that picture, too.  

    How many Su-35S' in the VVS now?  Or what is the targeted quantity?

    98 and there is a contract for another 30 units until 2024

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    Post  franco Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:30 pm

    According to your post #889, one aircraft has been retired so that would leave 97 active.

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    Post  william.boutros Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:39 pm

    AMCXXL wrote:
    LMFS wrote:A pair of new Su-35s fighters arrived at the Lipetsk Aviation Center of the Russian Aerospace Forces


    those are:

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    Su-35S: News - Page 36 10217810

    These are nice planes. I hope Russians invest further in engine, radar technology and data sharing and processing in order for the Su-35 and other planes to work in groups.
    I also hope Su-57 stealth layout and missiles get a major improvement in addition to the stage 2 engine and the radar.
    I think these would a few billion USDs well spent.
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    Post  Hole Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:00 pm

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    Post  franco Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:11 pm

    Read that the new upgraded Su-30SM2 will share engines, radars and other devices from the Su-35S making them more compatible and simplify logistics / repairs. They will in effect become the 2-seat version of the Su-35. Plans are that over time all the Su-30SM's will be brought up to SM2 standards.

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