LMFS wrote:franco wrote:So if 21 Su-30SM2's and 25 Yak-130's are costing 100 billion then 70 billion will not buy a lot of Su-35's. My guess would be about 24-30.
This is what Shoigu has said. IMO the 100 billion are unrelated to the new contract, but I don't speak Russian so I may be wrong:
“We have made a decision and will sign this year, in addition to the existing two state contracts worth over 100 billion rubles, under which 21 Su-30SM2 fighters and 25 Yak-130 combat training aircraft will be built,” the head of the military department said.ult wrote:The thing is Su-35S costs almost the same as Su-30SM. In 2015 the contract was 60 billion rubles for 50 Su-35S. Since then the inflation was around 24%. So it could even be the same 48 planes as before. Do not forget that they talk about Su-30SM2 which are supposed to be comparable to Su-35S, but unlike those they have yet to begin their serial production, which would make Su-30SM2's more expensive. So if I had to bet I'd say 70 bln would get you at least 36 Su-35S.
I tend to agree. Since we don't know even remotely enough about the intricacies of military sourcing and price formation in Russian MIC, RUB2 billion per 4++ gen. fighter is a round number that should not be too wrong.
Shoigu would be referring to the total cost of the contracts and the incremental delivery for the current period. Also,
100 billion rubles is about 1.4 billion US dollars. If we divide this by 21+25 = 46 then we get 30 million dollars per aircraft.
But the unit cost of a Yak 130 is 15 million dollars and the SU-30SM2 cost under 40 million USD. So the cited program cost
does not apply to the 46 jets. It looks like the two contracts will deliver around 75 jets.
So the 100 billion ruble contracts are incremental. Canada was looking at buying 65 F-35s for well over $75 million each
so Russian prices are more sane.