Su-35S: News

LMFS wrote:

franco wrote:So if 21 Su-30SM2's and 25 Yak-130's are costing 100 billion then 70 billion will not buy a lot of Su-35's. My guess would be about 24-30.

This is what Shoigu has said. IMO the 100 billion are unrelated to the new contract, but I don't speak Russian so I may be wrong:

“We have made a decision and will sign this year, in addition to the existing two state contracts worth over 100 billion rubles, under which 21 Su-30SM2 fighters and 25 Yak-130 combat training aircraft will be built,” the head of the military department said.

ult wrote:The thing is Su-35S costs almost the same as Su-30SM. In 2015 the contract was 60 billion rubles for 50 Su-35S. Since then the inflation was around 24%. So it could even be the same 48 planes as before. Do not forget that they talk about Su-30SM2 which are supposed to be comparable to Su-35S, but unlike those they have yet to begin their serial production, which would make Su-30SM2's more expensive. So if I had to bet I'd say 70 bln would get you at least 36 Su-35S.

I tend to agree. Since we don't know even remotely enough about the intricacies of military sourcing and price formation in Russian MIC, RUB2 billion per 4++ gen. fighter is a round number that should not be too wrong.

A bit more sane yes... what about $23 billion for 105 F-35 for Japan? Russian fighters about 1 order of magnitude cheaper (and yes, I know the Japanese contract included engines and what not, but at such difference in prices it is irrelevant)

franco wrote:7.2 billion of that 100 billion for the Su-30SM2's and Yak-130's is for maintenance on the Su-30SM's.

LMFS wrote:Somebody with really good eyesight and Russian knowledge can decipher the titles and amounts? There is one row for the new contract implemented apparently on just 2 years, then another which says something like "production in advance", then "rebuild". I am aiming at knowing the amount of Su-35S for the new contract and from there actual unit prices for the plane

franco wrote:

Who is Alexey Nikolsky?

Isos wrote:According to google 70 billions rubles = 950 600 000 $.

Unit price will be 19 804 666$.


Rob Lee
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Alexey Nikolsky reports that the new Su-35S fighter 70 billion ruble contract for the MoD will be for 48 fighters to be delivered by 2024.

LMFS wrote:
With those amounts ordered, the Su-27 could be finally removed from service, but I don't know if this is the plan, since they want to reopen air bases.

AMCXXL wrote:

Isos wrote:According to google 70 billions rubles = 950 600 000 $.

Unit price will be 19 804 666$.


Rob Lee
@RALee85
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Alexey Nikolsky reports that the new Su-35S fighter 70 billion ruble contract for the MoD will be for 48 fighters to be delivered by 2024.

This is not possible, the previous contract was 100 billions for 50 Su-35, this tine could be as far as 30 or 32

Each Su-35 costs about 2.3 billion rubles

Thinking in dollars makes no sense, the ruble was trading at 28 in 2014 and at 70 now, and that does not mean that the plane is worth cheaper, only that there is less demand for rubles in the foreign exchange market

George1 wrote:

can you write here the current numbers of old types (su-27, su-24, su-25, mig-29)? thank you

https://www.russiadefence.net/t4806-russian-air-force-numbers-and-procurement-plans