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    Syrian Civil War: News #5

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    Post  franco Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:05 am

    JohninMK wrote:
    Erk wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:
    Erk wrote:
    par far wrote:Why are the Kurds taking Azaz?

    INTERNATIONAL MILITARY REVIEW – SYRIA, FEB. 5, 2016


    http://southfront.org/international-military-review-syria-feb-5-2016/



    The Kurds are trying to close/control the border between Syria and Turkey.
    The Kurds are in a much better position to quickly cut off the town, it is still quite a way for the SAA to fight their way up. What will be interesting is what happens, assuming the Kurds take the area, when the SAA gets there. Is the Government going to insist on taking it over? Then how do the Turks react?

    I am not sure what the Kurdish long term game plan it, they want their own territory and they seem to be choosing it to be a buffer zone between Syria and Turkey, on the Syrian side of the border. It would be interesting to know what Assad/Putin think of this.
    Probably let them get on with it. Then at the end of the war the Kurds will get a self rule area within Syria. The border will probably have to be a Government operation to reduce the Turks pain at having all those 'orrible Kurds next to them.

    The Kurds have crossed the Euphrates at Tishrin and can advance to Manbij. Meanwhile the Tiger Force will soon be able to go after al-Bab and then advance to meet the Kurds after they take Manbij... cutting off ISIS from Turkey.
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    Post  KiloGolf Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:05 am

    Erk wrote:I am not sure what the Kurdish long term game plan it, they want their own territory and they seem to be choosing it to be a buffer zone between Syria and Turkey, on the Syrian side of the border. It would be interesting to know what Assad/Putin think of this.

    They approve it. The real estate YPG want to control is OKish but nothing great, no access to sea and lacks strategic depth. I.e. can be penetrated at anyone's choosing. They lack air assets too. So if they voluntarily want to be a buffer autonomous republic, facing Turkey. Well let them be. Aleppo-Al Bab is on SAA plans for control, so are the largest population centres. And their largest populations centers, Qamilsi and Hasaka are full of strong pro-SAA folks.

    PS. YPG zone of control will discourage any Turkmen-related issues in Aleppo province
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    Post  KiloGolf Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:13 am

    OminousSpudd wrote:Looks like Soviet Auxiliary Army is in overdrive. thumbsup

    And the rest. They made it all the way down to Jordanian border with T-90s giving moderates a final ride on the fvck truck.
    Few years ago claiming "SAA & friends will roll with T-90s on the Jordan border" would earn you a place in a mad house.

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    Post  Vann7 Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:21 am



    does anyone knows if Russia is making any attack drone to be used in conflicts like Syria?
    The Iranian one can do the job ,but 4 missiles is a bit limited. The US predator carry up to 6
    air to ground missiles. Wondering if Russia is working in Attack drones against mercenaries
    in conflicts and their pickups.. anyone knows?
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    Post  Erk Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:43 am

    Vann7 wrote:

    does anyone knows if Russia is making any attack drone to be used in conflicts like Syria?
    The Iranian one can do the job ,but 4 missiles is a bit limited. The US predator carry up to 6
    air to ground missiles. Wondering if Russia is working in Attack drones against mercenaries
    in conflicts and their pickups.. anyone knows?

    Russia uses drones for intelligence gathering, they have bombers, jets, and cruise missiles for blowing things up.

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    Post  par far Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:46 am

    KiloGolf wrote:
    Erk wrote:I am not sure what the Kurdish long term game plan it, they want their own territory and they seem to be choosing it to be a buffer zone between Syria and Turkey, on the Syrian side of the border. It would be interesting to know what Assad/Putin think of this.

    They approve it. The real estate YPG want to control is OKish but nothing great, no access to sea and lacks strategic depth. I.e. can be penetrated at anyone's choosing. They lack air assets too. So if they voluntarily want to be a buffer autonomous republic, facing Turkey. Well let them be. Aleppo-Al Bab is on SAA plans for control, so are the largest population centres. And their largest populations centers, Qamilsi and Hasaka are full of strong pro-SAA folks.

    PS. YPG zone of control will discourage any Turkmen-related issues in Aleppo province


    The SAA need to grab as much oil territory as they can, the cocksucker Jews took Golan Heights, said the SAA need to hurry to get all the oil territory they can.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:59 am

    par far wrote:
    The SAA need to grab as much oil territory as they can, the cocksucker Jews took Golan Heights, said the SAA need to hurry to get all the oil territory they can.

    Correction - the cocksucker Jews have temporarily occupied the Golan Heights. One fine day they will be evicted, and they will scream loudly on the short fiery descent to Hell when the day finally comes...
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    Post  Solncepek Sat Feb 06, 2016 7:50 am

    par far wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:These devices seem to be appearing all over the place, so someone is making them in reasonable numbers. Iran?

    Syrian Civil War: News #5 - Page 37 CadgmZOXIAEmAwn


    What are these are devices? And what is the purpose of these devices?

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    Post  Zivo Sat Feb 06, 2016 9:52 am

    Solncepek wrote:
    par far wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:These devices seem to be appearing all over the place, so someone is making them in reasonable numbers. Iran?

    Syrian Civil War: News #5 - Page 37 CadgmZOXIAEmAwn


    What are these are devices? And what is the purpose of these devices?

    Syrian Civil War: News #5 - Page 37 Cae2GPgWAAAKail

    So it is a dazzler. Interesting.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sat Feb 06, 2016 10:55 am

    if this is true then how they want to move those masses of people to support terrorists? then clash with SAA seems to be  inevitable as IMHO this is main reason to use them. I wonder if caliber-nukes start being used?

    CNN: Riyadh allies are preparing for 150 thousand military action in Syria




    http://ria.ru/syria_chronicle/20160206/1370482179.html

    MOSCOW, 6 Feb — RIA Novosti. Saudi Arabia and its allies among the Arab countries prepare up to 150 thousand troops for a possible operation in Syria against the group "Islamic state" (IG, is prohibited in the Russian Federation), according to the sources of the TV channel CNN.

    Advisor to the Saudi Minister of defense Ahmed Asiri said Thursday that the country is ready to send troops to participate in a ground operation in Syria, provided that it coordinates the command of the international coalition led by the United States. He suggested that such a decision can be made at the NATO summit in Brussels next week. The U.S. Secretary of defense Ashton Carter confirmed that at the NATO summit will discuss with the representatives of Saudi Arabia the initiative.
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    Post  KiloGolf Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:07 am

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:if this is true then how they want to move those masses of people to support terrorists? then clash with SAA seems to be  inevitable as IMHO this is main reason to use them. I wonder if caliber-nukes start being used?

    It's political hot air. They have no base or logistics for such a campaign, away from their border. Their only option for insertion would be Jordan, but with SAA in Daraa, pro-SAA Suwaida on east.. sounds impossible. Unless they were to move into FSA part of Golan, IS is also there in a pocket (ironically).


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    Post  chinggis Sat Feb 06, 2016 11:24 am

    Zivo wrote:
    Solncepek wrote:
    par far wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:These devices seem to be appearing all over the place, so someone is making them in reasonable numbers. Iran?

    Syrian Civil War: News #5 - Page 37 CadgmZOXIAEmAwn


    What are these are devices? And what is the purpose of these devices?

    Syrian Civil War: News #5 - Page 37 Cae2GPgWAAAKail

    So it is a dazzler. Interesting.

    No it is not. It is jamming device and operate in IR spectrum, how I guessed before. But I am wrong because I think that device have a passive detectors which turn on active device of IR light.
    No, when you turn on that device from drivers cabin, it work all the time until battery will be dry. I do not know if this IR light is modulated or not but it can be done quite easy in any electronic workshop and messed up more ATGM guidance(if any up to date ATGM have a modulated source of light for guidance). What is interesting is, we can see that this device have a convex lens and normal glass is not good material for IR light, so that lens will be from SiO2. It is not space science, but is harder to manufacture lens from SiO2 than normal glass, that mean, after 4+ years of war they are consolidate itself and decide what they need and what they do not need for fight and after that decision, they channeled resources in production needed equipment. That is important, because after you decide something, you need to find material and financial resources, you need to find laboratories where will be devices and equipment developed, approved by authorities, then you need to find workshops where that will be produced. You need to round up able workers for that job. So, what we see today, that process is start before 1 more probably 2 years. It is time what you need to transfer your manufacturing from normal peace production to war production. It can tell you a lot.
    And every source of light can damage your eyes, if it is powerful enough.
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    Post  KiloGolf Sat Feb 06, 2016 12:00 pm

    chinggis wrote:What is interesting is, we can see that this device have a convex lens and normal glass is not good material for IR light, so that lens will be from SiO2. It is not space science, but is harder to manufacture lens from SiO2 than normal glass, that mean, after 4+ years of war they are consolidate itself and decide what they need and what they do not need for fight and after that decision, they channeled resources in production needed equipment. That is important, because after you decide something, you need to find material and financial resources, you need to find laboratories where will be devices and equipment developed, approved by authorities, then you need to find workshops where that will be produced. You need to round up able workers for that job. So, what we see today, that process is start before 1 more probably 2 years. It is time what you need to transfer your manufacturing from normal peace production to war production. It can tell you a lot.
    And every source of light can damage your eyes, if it is powerful enough.

    Or they bought from China or the Norks.
    If this is indigenous Syrian product, hats off to them yes sir
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:04 pm

    KiloGolf wrote:
    Hamosh ‏@Hamosh84  1h1 hour ago
    Footage battle of #Rityan earlier which #SAA #Hezbollah + allies captured earlier today. #Syria #Aleppo

    https://twitter.com/Hamosh84/status/695740221414121472

    Doesn't get more gucci than that, kit, heavy loadouts, T-90(?)
    dafuq is going on.. these folks mean biznis, messing things up left and right.

    Iran means bizniss, Hizb means Hostile Takeover. What's really pissing me off right now is how they need to film these people around. FFS stop it, let the guys work, make a good hard footage about how things went down and taunt the WDC with it.


    Also 150K Saudis&Friends in Syria...Jesus why exaggerating things like this. The Saudis can't get a couple thousand retards to stay alive in Yemen with those FlipFlop Armada, how do you think they will get/fare in Syria.

    Also: You know what sour grapes look like when reading this.

    http://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/assad-regime-gains-aleppo-alter-balance-power-northern-syria

    I would pay a pretty penny to drink some of those tears.
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    Post  DerWolf Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:32 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:if this is true then how they want to move those masses of people to support terrorists? then clash with SAA seems to be  inevitable as IMHO this is main reason to use them. I wonder if caliber-nukes start being used?

    CNN: Riyadh allies are preparing for 150 thousand military action in Syria




    http://ria.ru/syria_chronicle/20160206/1370482179.html

    MOSCOW, 6 Feb — RIA Novosti. Saudi Arabia and its allies among the Arab countries prepare up to 150 thousand troops for a possible operation in Syria against the group "Islamic state" (IG, is prohibited in the Russian Federation), according to the sources of the TV channel CNN.

    Advisor to the Saudi Minister of defense Ahmed Asiri said Thursday that the country is ready to send troops to participate in a ground operation in Syria, provided that it coordinates the command of the international coalition led by the United States. He suggested that such a decision can be made at the NATO summit in Brussels next week. The U.S. Secretary of defense Ashton Carter confirmed that at the NATO summit will discuss with the representatives of Saudi Arabia the initiative.
    150.000 troops are to manu of them, yeh seems a very difficult task. But anyway we will wait and see if that will became reality.
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    Post  zg18 Sat Feb 06, 2016 1:46 pm

    If Yemen is any telling, Saudi Arabia bringing 150,000 troops to Syria is science fiction.
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    Post  zg18 Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:05 pm

    Gentle threat from Iran:

    They claim they will send troops (to Syria) but I don't think they will dare do so. They have a classic army and history tells us such armies stand no chance in fighting irregular resistance forces," the Fars news agency quoted Major General Mohammad Ali Jafari as saying. wrote:

    http://sputniknews.com/politics/20160206/1034334942/iran-saudi-arabia-syria.html?utm_source=https%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FTsXdT5QTgB&utm_medium=short_url&utm_content=a9Jt&utm_campaign=URL_shortening
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    Post  KiloGolf Sat Feb 06, 2016 3:31 pm

    zg18 wrote:If Yemen is any telling, Saudi Arabia bringing 150,000 troops to Syria is science fiction.

    Here's how it's going to go down, they will deploy to Yemen. When air-conditionined MRAPs break down, KFC supply dries out, they'll run away cross the dessert, all the way to Syria. We might end up collecting them from the Aegean as refugee folk. Razz
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    Post  KiloGolf Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:13 pm

    yeah they look the part alright
    Ratyan town.



    Also Naimah has fallen to SAA:

    Syrian Civil War: News #5 - Page 37 CafVlpaWAAA9YxU

    I am sensing the creation of yet another kettle in Daraa unshaven
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:23 pm

    They should shoulder those Type 56/2 better though. clown
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    Post  par far Sat Feb 06, 2016 4:48 pm

    GunshipDemocracy wrote:if this is true then how they want to move those masses of people to support terrorists? then clash with SAA seems to be  inevitable as IMHO this is main reason to use them. I wonder if caliber-nukes start being used?

    CNN: Riyadh allies are preparing for 150 thousand military action in Syria




    http://ria.ru/syria_chronicle/20160206/1370482179.html

    MOSCOW, 6 Feb — RIA Novosti. Saudi Arabia and its allies among the Arab countries prepare up to 150 thousand troops for a possible operation in Syria against the group "Islamic state" (IG, is prohibited in the Russian Federation), according to the sources of the TV channel CNN.

    Advisor to the Saudi Minister of defense Ahmed Asiri said Thursday that the country is ready to send troops to participate in a ground operation in Syria, provided that it coordinates the command of the international coalition led by the United States. He suggested that such a decision can be made at the NATO summit in Brussels next week. The U.S. Secretary of defense Ashton Carter confirmed that at the NATO summit will discuss with the representatives of Saudi Arabia the initiative.

    I think(just me thinking here), that both Russia and Iran would love this, the Saudis involved on two fronts, the Whabbis getting killed on two fronts would be great, the price of oil would go up, the same goes for the Turks, it would be way easier to start a major civil war inside Turkey.
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    Post  GunshipDemocracy Sat Feb 06, 2016 5:08 pm

    Senator: su-35 in Syria - a signal to those who want to violate the agreement


    "In my opinion, this can be addressed simultaneously and as a signal to those who try to arbitrarily redefine the ways of solving the Syrian problem despite the previously reached agreements" said the Deputy Chairman of the Federation Council Committee on defense Franz Klintsevich.


    http://ria.ru/syria/20160205/1370334454.html




    par far wrote: I think(just me thinking here), that both Russia and Iran would love this, the Saudis involved on two fronts, the Whabbis getting killed on two fronts would be great, the price of oil would go up, the same goes for the Turks, it would be way easier to start a major civil war inside Turkey.

    I am not sure if this is os easy - Saudis do nothing without US permission. Same with Turks. As for logistics yes they have in turkey.

    How do they cope without UN approval? like always: Assad is nondemocratic so we have to help Syrian nation to chop his head with blunt blade. And eventually Putin to Hague (now only in media)
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    Post  Dima Sat Feb 06, 2016 5:15 pm

    Hassan Ridha ‏@sayed_ridha  23 hours ago  
    Ammunition, weapons & supplies seized by #SAA in Atman #Daraa
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    Post  Neutrality Sat Feb 06, 2016 6:02 pm

    Situation becomes more interesting the closer the SAA get to the Jordanian border. Jordanians will keep silent or lend a hand?

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