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    Syrian Civil War: News #5

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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Dec 25, 2015 1:52 pm


    Buses to ship out 2,000 besieged Islamist fighters from south Damascus: Hezbollah TV

    http://news.yahoo.com/buses-arrive-2-000-syrian-islamist-fighters-south-104539516.html

    BEIRUT (Reuters) - Two thousand Syrian Islamist fighters are expected to be evacuated soon from besieged, rebel-held areas of southern Damascus in a deal brokered by the United Nations, a Hezbollah TV station said on Friday.

    The militants include fighters of Islamic State and the Nusra Front, al Qaeda's offshoot in Syria. Manar TV said 18 buses had arrived to start taking them and 1,500 family members to areas under the control of IS and other rebel groups.

    It was not clear whether the buses were provided by the U.N. or by the Syrian army.

    Manar TV said the militants would also be handing in their heavy weapons to the Syrian army under what it said was a multi-party deal under U.N. auspices.

    The rebels' capitulation was forced by a government siege over several years that squeezed the flow of food and humanitarian aid. The Syrian authorities agreed to their evacuation in the hope of reasserting control of the strategic area where fighters from other factions are also lodged, only 4 km (2.5 miles) south of central Damascus.

    It was the latest of several local ceasefires and safe-passage agreements between rival Syrian factions, as the United Nations, Syria's neighbors and world powers step up efforts to end the civil war that has killed over a quarter of a million people in almost five years.

    One such deal, brokered with support from Iran and Turkey, halted fighting in the town of Zabadani on the Lebanese border, and in two villages in the northwest.

    Another, in the last rebel-held district of the city of Homs, allowed rebels and their families to leave a besieged area. The U.N. said that agreement could help pave the way for a nationwide truce.

    The U.N. Security Council on Dec. 18 unanimously approved a resolution endorsing an international road map for a Syrian peace process, a rare show of consensus among major powers.

    Syrian Foreign Minister Walid al-Moualem said on Thursday that Damascus was ready to take part in peace talks in Geneva and hoped that the dialogue would help it form a national unity government
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Fri Dec 25, 2015 5:10 pm

    Zahran Alloush is dead! Shocked thumbsup
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    Post  Acheron Fri Dec 25, 2015 5:24 pm

    Yep, apparently Alloush has been given an express ticket to hell courtesy of Russian aviation. Given how this is not the first report of his demise, I would wait for pics of his mangled corpse before believing it.
    Here are the sources of this news: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-rebel-death-idUSKBN0U80S420151225
    https://www.rt.com/news/327094-top-syrian-rebel-killed/
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Dec 25, 2015 5:47 pm

    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Zahran Alloush is dead! Shocked thumbsup


    Merry Mainstream Christmas bitch!!! pwnd angel santa russia


    ''Top Islamist Leader Reportedly Killed in Airstrike Near Damascus ''

    The leader of the Jaysh al-Islam radical Islamist group was killed in an airstrike near Damascus, local media reports.


    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151225/1032310028/jaysh-al-islam-leader-killed-syria.html
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Dec 25, 2015 6:27 pm


    SAA Tigr-M

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    http://panzerbar.livejournal.com/3068506.html
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Dec 25, 2015 9:54 pm


    #BREAKING Footage of #RuAF/ #SyAF Air Strike that targeted #Zahran_Aloush position E Ghota

    https://twitter.com/Syria_Protector/status/680451145643458560
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    Post  Kadmos45 Fri Dec 25, 2015 11:12 pm

    So we've got main Saudi stooge offed along with other "commanders" at the meeting .Good tip !

    This entire East Ghouta sanctuary  nonsense should be over soon ...
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Fri Dec 25, 2015 11:45 pm

    That Tigr-M looks like them real SAA (aka Soviet Auxiliary Army).

    Also, There's no God but Sukhoi and OFAB is his messenger. Just realizing the completely different kind of business Russia is conducting in Syria. Yesterday I was at some friends for Christmas. And Syria was part of the discussion. So my friend of 15 years, recently discharged, former Royal Military School Instructor, and two other guys with peculiar résumés, we're sharing thoughts about what them Russians doing in Syria.

    Now before I tell you more, the disclaimer is that every one of the guys is normally Anti-Russian. Normally. Because on Ukraine for instance it has been largely indifference or disgust about EU meddling, all are rather Right wingers.

    So first the Colonel tells me that they like very much what they see (him and some other people). They judge the Russian action VERY heavy handed, but very effective as well. They assume that the Russians can do that because leadership is serious about goals. It's not what they're used to in regards to THE ENEMY. Semi-jockingly, that he'd gladly jump ship and become a Russian officer, if that could be feasible. He also says that the ERM (Royal military school) has become mainly a PR school with some shooting. Many basic things they need to learn for OPS, they can't do. That a lot of things that they used to teach even 10 years ago are completely theoretical now.

    Also "dumb" bombing above 6000m with that kind of acc, it's very difficult to believe from Russia. Yet he said that it's true, there's no way the bombings are staged or cut down. That's one tough wake up call for most of the officer corps at the ERM, because Russia is still sold as a derelict military. The other thing is that they haven't lost a beat (or a plane) since the start. Turkish attack (yeah he says everyone knows the Su24 was no accident) Finds that the whole show with Strategic bombers was OTT.

    If Russia can muster the same kind of effectiveness vs any European NATO member, there's little hope to close in any thing before the German mainland. And given Germany is shedding away most of its assets, the Russian border could well be back at Berlin in a blink of an eye. He says that most of the BS circulating among study groups so far is some serious wishful thinking, bundled together by kids with no idea of warfare. Staffers that are not military shouldn't be touching these things. Ukraine left him with a lot of angst, because the Russians showed twice and almost went to Kiev (sic).

    There's also a huge problem of cost overshoot in NATO (especially old members). Some systems that should be basically free, are costing more than others. Because Belgium has swapped ammo supplier now the cost per round has doubled at 38 cent per round. This is due to EU regulation about tenders. This causes a burden on roughly 450 million euros more (In my understanding this is since 2014, but might be before). So the FNC/MiniMi costs money more than their brand new Radios. Which they use FAR MORE than the firearms. Like wtf? That will kill most NATO economies in any kind of prolonged warfare with Russia. It's like a 1 month cost for any NATO member is likely to be worth 6 months of deployment for Russia. Since 15 years that gap, that should come down, is going up.

    Some other details I'll try and recall about his sentiment regarding Russia. But bottom line is that he clearly sees the Russians as dedicated to bail out "Assad" and that is causing probably more pain that we see in the map. If the Syrians have advanced, given their lack of anything (he's harsh) that means that both the Iranians and Russians are beating the hell out of the "rebels". And the fact the Syrians are having a wide spread effect in Aleppo, is clearly a sign. Aleppo was a lost battle in June, matter of time. Now it's on the verge of being won. Tactically, the situation for Idlib, in his view is dire because the whole are will become so tight, that it would allow the Russians to hit anything that moves on the Idlib/Turkey and Idlib/Jisr directions and be "right" 50% of the time. Which in a matter of weeks would signify the death knell of the Northern Syria rebellion. And Turkey couldn't do anything about it.

    The only thing that could go wrong is a huge blunder with multiple hundred dead civilians to derail the air campaign.

    Basically the others were more or less in agreement. These people are normally ANTI-Russian. So if these guys are starting to rethink Russian position (not because they like it) but because they see the "reality", then we can safely say that indeed the Russians are kicking ass and trashing the rebels.

    And this strike is clearly the cherry on top.
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    Post  mack8 Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:09 am

    There's no God but Sukhoi and OFAB is his messenger

    This deserves the internets of the day. Very Happy

    And yeah regarding the mindset of many in the "western" world, my british best friend that was born and lived through the Cold War (never been in military though), the kindest and most generous person i've ever met is still believing the "evil Russia evil Putin there is really democracy in the west and the government represent the will of th people" MSM propaganda, even if he's anti-war, anti-discrimination and truly a peace loving and wishing person and as critic  to US instigated wars (and UK participation) as any of us. I've more than once tried to argue the opposite view whenever the subject is brought up, but without much luck (partly because i guess i'm not that good at it unfortunately).


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    Post  OminousSpudd Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:09 am

    Cheers Kotemore, that was very interesting. Actions speak louder than words it would seem, and all that Western Media/NATO and "thunk-tanks" have are words.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:23 am

    I'd also say that all three people have been deployed in different caps over 10, 12 and 25 years. They judge Russia a rather failed state (politically they mean). Someone (one of the wives) brought the comparison with Prussia during the dinner, we all laughed (because half the table was German). Anyway they have taught me a lot over the course of our friendship regarding military matters, but clearly even they were discovering a totally different reality. Although the Belgian Colonel was already startled by the Russian war with Georgia (he's the one that made the "They look like hobo's with guns and do what all hobo's do. Trashing your place" quote regarding the Russian troops, I made at mp.net.).

    Clearly the people who know their stuff are changing their tune.
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    Post  OminousSpudd Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:34 am

    Seeing Russia's new gear rolling out such as Armata, Ratnik, and the eclectic mix of upgraded and capable-old with the even more capable new has been a real eye-opener for some, especially when you consider that we've all been told that they're a third-world nation by the powers that be. I'm just astounded by the amount of people that fell for it in the first place, especially those that lived through the Cold War.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Dec 26, 2015 1:36 am

    Kadmos45 wrote:So we've got main Saudi stooge offed along with other "commanders" at the meeting .Good tip !

    This entire East Ghouta sanctuary  nonsense should be over soon ...

    Best part is that it was supposed to be a ''secret meeting''... lol1
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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat Dec 26, 2015 2:44 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Zahran Alloush is dead! Shocked thumbsup


    Merry Mainstream Christmas bitch!!! pwnd angel santa russia


    ''Top Islamist Leader Reportedly Killed in Airstrike Near Damascus ''

    The leader of the Jaysh al-Islam radical Islamist group was killed in an airstrike near Damascus, local media reports.


    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151225/1032310028/jaysh-al-islam-leader-killed-syria.html

    Zahran Alloush finally gets his 40 virgins, but then discoverers to his eternal consternation that the Koran doesn't guarantee they will be female....
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    Post  OminousSpudd Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:17 am

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Zahran Alloush is dead! Shocked thumbsup


    Merry Mainstream Christmas bitch!!! pwnd angel santa russia


    ''Top Islamist Leader Reportedly Killed in Airstrike Near Damascus ''

    The leader of the Jaysh al-Islam radical Islamist group was killed in an airstrike near Damascus, local media reports.


    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151225/1032310028/jaysh-al-islam-leader-killed-syria.html

    Zahran Alloush finally gets his 40 virgins, but then discoverers to his eternal consternation that the Koran doesn't guarantee they will be female....

    Or human for that matter... https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/m65vOfKGyXDhpleVkIg4SM58-Y06bt76wcuJgNFVhOSfenG6sxXVZM4iU6L65lkOE1lP4mt1rnyFufCuqs9oh6lME3ZeSjIdPu63953cXQTgOnLbQ2ID1rp3ibDssi31NLwriTZ33MzjHIOUgG8ngqs8axT95reLmVYgSP3AKzr9PWtxrkUqOW6VeqAkRtA=w444-h331-nc
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    Post  Zivo Sat Dec 26, 2015 10:13 am

    Some sources are saying the Kurds made it to Tishreen dam.

    If it's true, it's not a game changer, but it's going to make things harder for Daesh.
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    Post  Guest Sat Dec 26, 2015 1:29 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Walther von Oldenburg wrote:Zahran Alloush is dead! Shocked thumbsup


    Merry Mainstream Christmas bitch!!! pwnd angel santa russia


    ''Top Islamist Leader Reportedly Killed in Airstrike Near Damascus ''

    The leader of the Jaysh al-Islam radical Islamist group was killed in an airstrike near Damascus, local media reports.


    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151225/1032310028/jaysh-al-islam-leader-killed-syria.html

    Zahran Alloush finally gets his 40 virgins, but then discoverers to his eternal consternation that the Koran doesn't guarantee they will be female....

    Actually its 72 virgins Very Happy They have big apetities.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Dec 26, 2015 1:33 pm


    Extended footage:

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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Sat Dec 26, 2015 1:39 pm

    It's reported that in total 16 commanders were killed in the airstrike, including Alloush, his deputy, his spokesman and several commanders from Faylaq ash Sham.

    Dunno if these 16 killed represent all casualties in that airstrike.
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    Post  Solncepek Sat Dec 26, 2015 1:47 pm

    Syrian Civil War: News #5 - Page 8 Post-15-1451122999

    The strike was done by Syrian airforces, not Russian !
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Dec 26, 2015 1:49 pm


    ''Syrian Army captures Ayn Sharouq in northern Latakia''

    http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/21915/


    ''Islamist rebels suffer heavy casualties in a failed bid to capture Bashkoy in northern Aleppo''

    http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/islamist-rebels-suffer-heavy-casualties-in-a-failed-bid-to-capture-bashkoy-in-northern-aleppo/


    ''Syrian Army launches a fresh offensive in the West Ghouta region of rural Damascus''

    http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/syrian-army-launches-a-fresh-offensive-in-the-west-ghouta-region-of-rural-damascus-2/
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Dec 26, 2015 2:18 pm

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    Post  George1 Sat Dec 26, 2015 4:51 pm

    Syrian Authorities Seize Equipment for Use of Chemical Weapons

    Syrian authorities have seized equipment for the use of chemical weapons, as well as foreign-made medical supplies at a terrorist field camp in the Latakia province, Syria's SANA news agency said.

    MOSCOW (Sputnik) — In August 2015, the UN Security Council authorized the launch of a Joint Investigative Mechanism (JIM) to identify people who were involved in the use of chemical weapons in Syria.

    "Following a special operation, authorities in Latakia province seized equipment for using chemical weapons, as well as medical supplies and equipment of Turkish, Saudi, and Qatari origins which had been in the possession of terrorist organizations in Latakia’s northern countryside," SANA reported on Friday citing a field commander in charge of the operation.

    Syria has been in a state of civil war since 2011, with the army loyal to President Bashar Assad fighting several opposition factions and militant groups, including Daesh.

    In August 2013, an unprecedented chemical weapons attack which killed more than 1,300 civilians took place in Ghouta, a suburb of the Syrian capital Damascus. Militants and Assad’s government blamed each other for the attack.

    A mission to eliminate Syria's chemical arsenal was announced after the deadly gas attack. Moscow urged Damascus to place its chemical weapons under international control, and Syria agreed to the Russian initiative.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20151225/1032322678/syria-chemical-weapons.html#ixzz3vRV0nYML
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Dec 26, 2015 6:57 pm


    SAA stronkk!!!  thumbsup  Cool

    ''Leader of Syrian Revolutionaries' Front Islamist Movement Killed by Gov't Forces''

    http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151226/1032343068/syria-air-force-terrorists.html
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Dec 26, 2015 7:04 pm


    Kurds crossed Euphrates, what will Sultan Doggie do now? Razz

    ''Kurds, Arabs seize key Syria dam from IS: group''

    http://news.yahoo.com/kurds-arabs-seize-key-syria-dam-group-165920684.html

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