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mnztrI thought Prince Vlad was the first improved Borei, now I am confused. What are the changes to Oleg?
Project 955: Borei class SSBN
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TheArmenian- Posts : 1885
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mnztr wrote:I thought Prince Vlad was the first improved Borei, now I am confused. What are the changes to Oleg?
Yes, the Russian classification can be confusing. This is the logic behind it:
Prince Vlad is the first one - prototype
Prince Oleg is the first serial one.
They are identical.
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TheArmenian wrote:PapaDragon wrote:Cyberspec wrote:What was delayed?
Laying down ceremony for those six new ships got scrubbed at the last minute and moved for Monday
But launch of fully completed vessel just goes on the down low
The delay was because of Putin's schedule. He is going to attend the Universal Landing Ships laying down process in Kerch. He postponed his trip by a few days, so all the ceremonies were delayed.
I just posted details on what will be laid down this month in the other thread:
https://www.russiadefence.net/t5541p550-russian-naval-construction-plans-and-statistics-update#288506
Yeah they better go on ahead without him, he's retreated to the bunker
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New sonar arrangement on the 955A ?
Hello #Russia Prj.955A Borey-A "Knyaz Vladimir", what an interesting new flank sonar array you have there
https://twitter.com/JosephHDempsey/status/931657649606754304
Hello #Russia Prj.955A Borey-A "Knyaz Vladimir", what an interesting new flank sonar array you have there
https://twitter.com/JosephHDempsey/status/931657649606754304
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They seem to be confused with sonars. They keep changing them from one sub to another. Already happened to yasen which saw a different sonar from 1 to 2nd ship. Now this.
Don't they have a testbed submarine or they test them only when the new subs are build ?
Don't they have a testbed submarine or they test them only when the new subs are build ?
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Cyberspec wrote:New sonar arrangement on the 955A ?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DO3piyeW0AAnpiZ?format=jpg&name=large
Hello #Russia Prj.955A Borey-A "Knyaz Vladimir", what an interesting new flank sonar array you have there
https://twitter.com/JosephHDempsey/status/931657649606754304
Yes, both Borei-A and Yasen-M have conformal sonars, this is not news
That guy from Twitter is out of the loop
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This is a pic from the launching ceremony of Knyaz Wladimir.
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Isos wrote:They seem to be confused with sonars. They keep changing them from one sub to another. Already happened to yasen which saw a different sonar from 1 to 2nd ship. Now this.
Don't they have a testbed submarine or they test them only when the new subs are build ?
Uhm, the first Yasen was laid down in the 90s, so of course starting with the 2nd sub there would be significant redesigns and new class number 855M.
Borei too was from that time, but Russia put much higher priority on it and actually produced 3 of them, before modernizing the design.
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Do we have any comparison of location or shape of that conformal sonar.. compared to the First 955 (The Yuri Dolgruky) ?
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AlfaT8 wrote:Borei too was from that time, but Russia put much higher priority on it and actually produced 3 of them, before modernizing the design.
The first 3x Boreis were built using hull sections from unfinished Pr 971 Schuka-B/Akulas. I expect that Russia decided they needed new SSBNs more than they needed new SSNs.