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    Project 955: Borei class SSBN

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    Post  mnztr on Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:18 am

    This article says the Prince Oleg will be the last Borei A and the 6th will be a more advanced variant....interesting. https://thediplomat.com/2019/04/will-russia-build-borei-b-class-ballistic-missile-subs/

    It also says Husky will be the basis of SSN, SSGN and SSBN

    Like most articles about Russian sub plans there are some contradictions.
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    Post  Big_Gazza on Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:46 pm

    It wouldn't surprise me if the RuN decided to introduce some of the technological improvements of the 955Bs into the 6th & 7th units of 955A(M)s. That would give the advantage of testing the new solutions prior to bending metal for the 1st Huskies. If this happens, the decision could have come about due to possible delays in the Husky program?
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    Post  PapaDragon on Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:06 pm

    mnztr wrote:This article says the Prince Oleg will be the last Borei A and the 6th will be a more advanced variant....interesting. https://thediplomat.com/2019/04/will-russia-build-borei-b-class-ballistic-missile-subs/

    It also says Husky will be the basis of SSN, SSGN and SSBN

    Like most articles about Russian sub plans there are some contradictions.

    That's a trash source

    Russian Navy went on record year ago that they will not be ordering Borei-B and will be focusing on more Borei-A hulls


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    Post  mnztr on Sun Apr 19, 2020 5:16 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:

    That's a trash source

    Russian Navy went on record year ago that they will not be ordering Borei-B and will be focusing on more Borei-A hulls



    It says quite clearly in the article they said a year ago they would not build Borei B but it says they are considering a more advanced variant and also reconsidering Borei B.
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    Post  George1 on Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:47 am

    955A: serialization, names, distribution by fleets


    Recently, the efforts of a number of Russian news-makers (central news agencies, specialized Internet resources, television companies and social networks) in the program for the construction of the 4th generation SSBN, pr. 955A (Borey-A) - such as it is It seems to a wide audience - there are serious discrepancies. They relate to the number of ships planned for construction, the actual names assigned to them and the distribution among the fleets. The purpose of this record is to try to establish the truth.

    Seriality

    For the first time about the continuation of the Borei series (955 and 955A), which at that time consisted of eight combatant and built SSBNs, it became known in May 2018, when a source in the defense industry told the media about the decision to build six more boats of Project 955A on Sevmash (link 1). In mid-2019, a message appeared about the planned conclusion of a state contract for two Borea-A in the framework of the Army-2019 forum (link 2). The contract was not signed at the forum, as evidenced by Deputy Minister of Defense A. Krivoruchko (ref. 3) and the Army’s official website (ref. 4), but at the end of November the date for laying the 9th and 10th Boreev was announced - May 9, 2020 (ref. 5).

    The informational failure occurred on February 21 after the announcement of the decision to conclude a contract for the 9th and 10th submarines on the Army 2020 (23-29.08) and lay them on Sevmash in 2021 (ref. 6). Having misinterpreted the above (who doesn’t happen to anyone), colleagues from flotprom.ru decided that in addition to those planned for the Victory Day bookmark, we are talking about two other SSBNs, the number of which "in the Russian Navy" may increase to 12 units "(reference 7). On March 10, their opinion was made without reference to the source in Regnum (link Cool, which VKontakte duplicated the authoritative profile resource Storm of Depth (link 11), thereby “legitimizing” the erroneous point of view.

    The truth in this case is that today we can talk about the seriality of pr. 955 in 10 units with a possible increase to 14. Since the SSBNs are not only part of the Navy but the naval forces’s strategic nuclear forces, to give any reasoned arguments in favor of that or another number of “Boreev” is quite difficult. Paragraph 2 of Article II of START III, which, God willing, will be extended, states "each of the parties has the right to independently determine the composition and structure of its strategic offensive weapons" (ref. 12), which makes ensuring the parity of marine parts of nuclear triads unnecessary.

    As of January 1, 2020, the U.S. Navy's Strategic Nuclear Forces had 220 deployed SSBN launchers and the same number of Trident II SLBMs (Ref. 13), i.e. 11 out of 14 Ohio type boats with 20 out of 24 missile silos (four launchers are formally in a state of "impossibility of launching SLBMs" - ref. 14). Another 60 launchers were considered non-deployed (in total - 280). In the future, after replacing the Ohio with Columbia, the number of deployed and non-deployed launchers will be reduced to 192 (16 launchers per 12 SSBNs).

    If you choose the serialization of 955A between 10 and 14 (ref. 1), the number 12 seems most reasonable. First, even if it is not so important, it will correspond to the plans of the Pentagon. Secondly and thirdly, it is completely divided into two (more on this later) and three, which corresponds to the principle of tripling the payroll already mentioned more than once in the blog to ensure a permanent presence in the ocean when one of the three ships one class in one of the fleets is in combat service, the other is in combat readiness or in the process of preparing for a long voyage at a permanent base, the third is in repair or modernization (ref. 15).


    Names

    The message that the ceremony of laying the new “Boreevs” is timed to Victory Day (ref. 5), gave rise to understandable assumptions that their names would be associated with a significant date. These assumptions did not get any confirmation, but in the Russian-language Wikipedia article on Ave. 955, there appeared "Marshal Zhukov" (manager No. 209) and "Marshal Rokossovsky" (No. 210) (link 16-22.12.2019 15:51) . The military observer Regnum found the information not supported by links to be completely reliable and broadcast it to a audience of one and a half million (link Cool. It is sad, but the Storm of Depth also believed in the fiction.

    Meanwhile, at the end of February this year (two weeks before the publication of Regnum) a letter was published on the network dated December 23, 2019 signed by the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy N. Evmenov, addressed to the chairman of the Vladivostok Sea Assembly. The letter says: "the military council of the Navy supported the proposal to assign the real name" Rurik "to the sixth serial strategic missile submarine cruiser [Head # 209], project 955a, planned for construction for the Pacific Fleet" (ref. 17).

    The name of the seventh "Borei-A" is still unknown. One of the most suitable options, according to the author, is Field Marshal Kutuzov (as long as there is a Generalissimo Suvorov). There will be no duplication here, since the cruiser Project 68 bis Mikhail Kutuzov is no longer listed in the fleet, but as a branch of the Central Naval Museum of the Ministry of Defense (ref. 18). Citizen Minin (manager No. 211?), Who is inseparable in history from Pozharsky, whose name is named after manager, should not be ignored. No. 208 - the fifth ship of the "princely" series (even in the Russian Imperial Navy with its class prejudices there were armored cruisers / frigates "Minin" and "Prince Pozharsky"). As for Zhukov and Rokossovsky, there is no doubt that in the foreseeable future warships worthy of the names of the Marshals of Victory will be built for the Russian Navy.


    Fleet Distribution


    It is believed that in the Soviet Union there was an uneven distribution of SSBNs among the fleets (in favor of the Northern Fleet), but even a cursory glance at the history of the domestic atomic sub-melting suggests that this was not always the case. For example, the ships of the last two modifications of the 667 family were altogether distributed between the Northern Fleet and Pacific Fleet in a proportion close to 1/1 - 7 BDRM and 4 BDR in the North, 10 BDR in the Far East (ref. 20, ref. 22). Currently, the Federation Council’s “strategists” are significantly superior to the Pacific Fleet - 7 versus 3, and after the entry into operation of Prince Vladimir there will be 8 versus 3 (ref. 23). The situation with the probable adversary is inversely proportional, although not so unevenly: on the West (Pacific) coast, 8 SSBNs are based (Navy Kittsap / Bangor), on the East - 6 (Kings Bay) (ref. 24), which is most likely connected with the "Chinese threat."

    There are reasons for the preferred deployment of an SSBN in the North. Ilyin and Kolesnikov (Russian Submarines, 2002, pp. 241-242) argue that "when patrolling in the Arctic seas directly adjacent to the Russian coast (including under ice cover) ... almost absolute underwater survival is ensured missile carriers "(due to unfavorable hydrological conditions for the enemy, especially in vast shallow areas). The ice cover of the Arctic Ocean, to the edge of which from Gadzhievo in winter / summer is only 350/450 miles and less than a day's journey at a maximum low noise speed of 20 knots (from Vilyuchinsk four times farther and longer), certainly contributes to stealth deployment. Moreover, the ammunition that paves the way for the Bulava when it is launched from under the ice, as they say, is already undergoing tests (ref. 25).

    Information on the military-applied hydrology of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk could not be found in open sources, but its geographical position in comparison with the Barents Sea seems even more advantageous. It’s only 100 km from the Norwegian border to Gadzhievo, and the entrance to the Russian Arctic from the north and west, despite control from the Northern Fleet, is open to warships of NATO countries. In turn, despite the fact that the Sea of ​​Okhotsk is not internal de jure, it is de facto the case (at least in terms of deploying the SSBN). After brigades of submarines of Project 636.3 or 677 and corvettes of Project 20380 (20385) are formed in Kamchatka, the likelihood of penetration of the Japanese Navy submarine or the US Navy submarine into its water area will become minimal. Finally, in terms of remoteness from targets on the territory of a likely adversary, SF and Pacific Fleet are equivalent. From Gadzhievo to Washington on the East coast along an arc of a large circle of 6700 km, to San Francisco on the West - 8000, from Vilyuchinsk - 8500 and 6100 km, respectively (reference 26) (*).

    (*) The distance of the "Mace" is 8000–9300 km.

    It follows from the above that the number of Boreans on each of the two ocean fleets should be the same (as confirmed by the message at link 27). Due to the strong imbalance in favor of SF, it is urgently necessary to strengthen the Pacific Fleet. First-hand information (from the commander of the submarine forces of the Pacific Fleet) testifies to understanding the problem by the Navy’s commander-in-chief - three Boreas will go to the Far East in a row: Prince Oleg, Generalissimus Suvorov and Emperor Alexander III (ref. 28) (" Military acceptance "lost sight of the first - ref. 29 37:59, the distribution of the other two was announced as early as the day they were laid - ref. 30, ref. 31). The next will be “Rurik” (ref. 17). Thus, the course of events leads to the fact that in order to ensure "nuclear parity" of the Northern Fleet and Pacific Fleet in the "6 by 6" format (after decommissioning all BDRMs), it will be necessary to lay two more Boreya-A for the Northern Fleet (Head No. 211-212).

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    Post  mnztr on Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:07 am

    So looks like a min 12 max 14. Great info, thanks for posting. It will be interesting to see if there is a Borie A- M or series II. Can they build 14 and make 8 and use inserts to make the silos into VLS?
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    Post  GarryB on Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:37 pm

    AFAIK the UKSK launchers have electronic monitoring so they don't require under deck access to every cell like earlier vertical launch SAMs like the Rif or naval TOR which required quite complicated rotary launchers with single hatches for multiple missiles on a rotary launch system...

    The problem is that as far as I know the Bulava tubes are individual separate tubes like traditional SLBMs so unless they came up with a modified new system of cells for the SLBMs then it probably wouldn't be very easy to move from one set up to the other.

    Not really building a new sub from scratch, but I don't think the Americans would approve a new UKSK-M compatible module with Bulavas they could then fit on any of their ships...
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    Post  dino00 on Thu May 07, 2020 5:17 am

    Shipbuilders to deliver upgraded Borei-A sub to Russian Navy in late May, says source

    https://tass.com/defense/1153517
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    Post  dino00 on Wed May 13, 2020 8:07 am

    The submarine "Prince Vladimir" went to sea for control tests

    According to the test results, a decision will be made on the introduction of a submarine in the Navy, a source in the military-industrial complex said


    "Prince Vladimir" left on Tuesday from Severodvinsk to the White Sea for control tests, based on which a decision will be made on the introduction of a submarine in the Navy, "the agency’s source said.

    Another source told TASS that, according to preliminary data, the submarine should be taken into combat duty by the end of May.


    https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/8457219

    Still late May

    Edit: maybe June

    Strategic submarine "Prince Vladimir" may enter the naval forces in June - source

    https://www.militarynews.ru/story.asp?rid=1&nid=531967&lang=RU
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    Post  George1 on Thu May 21, 2020 4:10 pm

    The time has come russia


    Upgraded Borei-A nuclear-powered sub to be handed over to Russian Navy May 25 - source


    The nuclear-powered sub Knyaz Vladimir has fully undergone state trials

    MOSCOW, May 21. /TASS/. A handover certificate for the Project 955A (Borei-A) first upgraded strategic nuclear-powered submarine Knyaz Vladimir will be signed on May 25, a source in Russia’s defense sector told TASS on Thursday.

    "The submarine is currently undergoing underwater trials in the Whine Sea. By the end of the week, it will be back at Sevmash (the submarine’s manufacturer - TASS). It is planned to sign a handover certificate on May 25," the source said, adding that it is planned to hoist the St. Andrew flag, i.e. to put the ship in service in the Russian Navy, in mid-June.

    Sevmash’s press service refrained from comments on the information from the source.

    Another source in the sector told TASS earlier that the Knyaz Vladimir had set off for the White Sea from Severodvinsk for final trials. Later, the Northern Fleet confirmed these reports, saying that the trials were meant to check the quality of the removal of problems exposed earlier.

    The Knyaz Vladimir is the improved Project 955A strategic missile-carrying underwater cruiser, which represents the fourth generation of nuclear-powered subs built for the Russian Navy. It was floated out in November 2017. According to the data of Russia’s Defense Ministry, the sub Knyaz Vladimir is less noisy and features improved maneuvering, depth and armament control systems.

    The nuclear-powered sub Knyaz Vladimir has fully undergone state trials. In the autumn of 2019, it test-fired a Bulava intercontinental ballistic missile.

    Four more Borei-A submarines are at various stages of their construction. Also, a contract has been signed for building two more missile-carrying underwater cruisers of this Project. There are also plans to build two more Borei-A subs.

    Project 955 and Project 955A submarines have been developed by the Rubin Central Design Bureau for Marine Engineering (part of the United Shipbuilding Corporation). All Borei-class submarines carry 16 Bulava ballistic missiles. They are also furnished with 533mm torpedo tubes. Currently, three Project 955 nuclear-powered missile-carrying subs are operational in the Russian Northern and Pacific Fleets.

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    Post  dino00 on Thu May 21, 2020 7:16 pm

    First improved version so welcome
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    Post  George1 on Fri May 29, 2020 6:07 am

    The improved Project 955A (Borei-A) strategic nuclear-powered lead submarine Knyaz Vladimir has been handed over to the Russian Navy, the press office of the United Shipbuilding Corporation reported on Thursday. russia

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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Jun 12, 2020 11:53 pm


    Knyaz Vladimir has been officially accepted into service

    https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/133328/

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    Post  Tingsay on Sat Jun 13, 2020 12:49 am

    The streamlined missile hump looks majestic. It's practically a new class of sub thumbsup
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    Post  SeigSoloyvov on Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:00 am

    Tingsay wrote:The streamlined missile hump looks majestic. It's practically a new class of sub thumbsup

    It basically is, the first three were conversions from other hulls of different classes.

    This one is the first Borei built from the ground up as a Borei
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    Post  George1 on Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:33 am

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    Post  George1 on Sun Jun 14, 2020 2:39 am

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    Post  mnztr on Sun Jun 14, 2020 1:45 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    Tingsay wrote:The streamlined missile hump looks majestic. It's practically a new class of sub thumbsup

    It basically is, the first three were conversions from other hulls of different classes.

    This one is the first Borei built from the ground up as a Borei


    It looks the part, great looking boat. The top half of the hull is a perfect arc. Did the 2 additional units get laid down on V day? Such incredibly powerful and deadly machines.
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    Post  mnztr on Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:34 pm

    SeigSoloyvov wrote:
    Tingsay wrote:The streamlined missile hump looks majestic. It's practically a new class of sub thumbsup

    It basically is, the first three were conversions from other hulls of different classes.

    This one is the first Borei built from the ground up as a Borei

    Nice cutaway of how they did this with the exterior hull:

    https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/03/project-955a-borei-a-ssbn-to-reinforce-russian-navy-pacific-fleet/#prettyPhoto/0/
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    Post  dino00 on Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:21 pm

    MOSCOW, Jun 29 - RIA News. The first serial nuclear submarine of the improved project 955 A Borey-A, Prince Oleg, is planned to be transferred to the Navy in December 2020, head of the United Shipbuilding Corporation ( USC ) Alexei Rakhmanov told RIA Novosti .
    The day before, in Severodvinsk , the Sevmash plant signed an act of acceptance and transfer to the fleet of the head submarine of this project, Prince Vladimir .
    “Fifth Borey” “Prince Oleg” we plan to hand over to the fleet this year, I think it will be December, ”Rakhmanov said.

    https://ria.ru/20200629/1573600239.html

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    Post  dino00 on Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:38 am

    The first serial missile carrier of the Borey-A project, Prince Oleg, was launched

    The cruiser belongs to the fourth generation of nuclear powered ships created for the Russian Navy


    MOSCOW, July 16. / TASS /. The nuclear submarine strategic missile cruiser of project 955A (Borey-A), Prince Oleg, was removed from the boathouse of the Severodvinsk Sevmash on Thursday. This was reported in the press service of the enterprise.

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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Jul 17, 2020 4:54 am


    That was as low key as it gets, make the whole today's delay look pretty stupid...

    Anyway, in the drink it goes:

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    Post  Cyberspec on Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:47 am

    What was delayed?
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    Post  PapaDragon on Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:59 am

    Cyberspec wrote:What was delayed?

    Laying down ceremony for those six new ships got scrubbed at the last minute and moved for Monday

    But launch of fully completed vessel just goes on the down low

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    Post  TheArmenian on Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:27 am

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Cyberspec wrote:What was delayed?

    Laying down ceremony for those six new ships got scrubbed at the last minute and moved for Monday

    But launch of fully completed vessel just goes on the down low


    The delay was because of Putin's schedule. He is going to attend the Universal Landing Ships laying down process in Kerch. He postponed his trip by a few days, so all the ceremonies were delayed.

    I just posted details on what will be laid down this month in the other thread:
    https://www.russiadefence.net/t5541p550-russian-naval-construction-plans-and-statistics-update#288506

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