Austin wrote:Indo-Russia fifth generation fighter aircraft will be completely new, not linked to Sukhoi T 50: Russia
Rostec has said that it is worrying that faster progress has not been made by the Indian side to finalise the project.
"We have raised the matter at the highest level and had discussions at Aero India as well. What is worrying is that we are not yet taking the program ahead," Viktor N Kladov, Direct, International Cooperation, Rostec said, adding that he was hopeful that progress will be made this year to sign on the dotted line.
Russia is keen to differentiate the Indian project with its ongoing T 50 fighter jet program. "The Indian FGFA is not a copy cat of the T 50, it will be a new aircraft that will also have some technologies from the T 50. If India had wanted the T 50, we would not be working on a new aircraft (FGFA) program," Kladov said.
Answering a query by ET on whether the Russian side would be willing to work on integrating a western engine to the fifth generation aircraft (Russia has been facing delays due to this), the executive said that such an approach would not be practical due to the history of sanctions by western powers. "Even in our plans to develop a new commercial aircraft to take on Boeing and Airbus, we are insisting on our own engine due to the past sanctions. In a military project these concerns are even more
This is no sense. The Indian FGFA program , is nothing more than a 2 seat version of Pak-Fa with modifications on its avionics and other small things. In fact it was stated ,by Indian Engineers, that the major problem that India had with Pak-fa ,is that Russia does not wants to give India the blue prints of everything and that they felt ,they were only buying something and that Russia was not aiding India into designing their own stealth plane. With the money India is spending in FGFA , you cannot ask for a brand new stealth plane from zero. So the "completely new" plane is bullshit.
Perhaps he says that for Public relations only. But is not true. India is NOT designing FGFA in any way. They not even could design a 4th generation plane on their own , and to think they will now build a 5th generation stealth plane is nonsense. And neither Russia will do a brand new plane for just ~500 millions dollars that India already gave Russia.
That is pennies. you cannot design a new stealth plane with so little . So in short FGFA will be just a 2 seat version of Pak-fa that will neither be better or worse.. will be equal in performance but will be customized in a different way. The thing India can do to the project it is on its Avionics if they wanted fancy lights. but even here India will have major problem , because all the electronics in Pak-fa and FGFA will have to be very strong and resistant to Counter electronics and Jamming ,and heavy use on Photonics technology that India have no Experience at all.
So It will be a major Risk for Russia to starting from zero ,a new plane that Russia Dont need ,and India is not paying enough for it. thats non sense. Russia will just use Pak-fa as Reference ,add two seats cabin and modify it here and there according to India preferences. and thats it. If FGFA is a new plane now,.. developed by Russia , then i have not seen any new multibillionaire deal anywhere , with India giving many Billions $$ to finance the research of a new stealth plane. Using Pak-fa design ,and modifying from it , will significantly reduce development time. Starting a new stealth plane from zero , will mean India will NOT have a stealth plane in at least 2030. Because it took Russia more than 10 years of research and testing for its Pak-fa plane. First prototype of pak-fa flew in 2010..and we are in 2017 and still not in service. So if Russia start a new plane now .. with a bit of luck , many billions dollars later ,it will take at least 10 years for India from ordering it , to get them fully tested and in service in their airforce. So far the claims of FGFA being a new plane ,totally contradict every news in the last years of India and Russia disagreement with the project. India wants to give just a some money for the project and in change wants to learn how to build stealth planes on its own ,so it no longer needs to buy them from Russia. I don't think Russians will be so fools to agree with such bad deal. .Americans does not sell their F-22 not even to allies.
and they are having a hardtime just to give India all the how's to build their latest modifications of F-16s. which India was interested to have too. India wants to know everything , how others build their planes ,submarines and warships and get it for nearly free the blueprints and training. This is not very fair at all. But unethical .