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    Post  PapaDragon Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:15 pm

    Khepesh wrote:^ I'm sure yes, but I think the danger is that Washington and it's puppets will take a risk and have Turkey invade Syria for reasons of "self defence", and as Russia has no treaties with Syria and only essentially airforces in Syria, cannot do anything other than shout, and there will be a lot of shouting from all quarters and nobody looking at Donbass and, bang!. Any Kiev offensive will be portrayed as "defensive" and "righteous" whether the Stasi hausfrau agrees or not. It is not rational for Turkey to invade Syria or Kiev to attack Donbass, it is madness, but we are dealing with a Washington that has long been mad, and this is what I have been saying a long time, that all the diplomacy and talk of "partners" is totaly wasted as it all depends on what the loonies do. We are fast coming to endgame with Washington over these affairs and it will be unpleasant for Washington and disasterous for it's puppets.

    Pretty much what we all anticipated. NAF is ready and waiting and if ukrops want to attempt to preserve Kiev gang they will have to attack.

    And that means leaving their rat holes and stepping out in to the open.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Nov 30, 2015 4:08 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Khepesh wrote:^ I'm sure yes, but I think the danger is that Washington and it's puppets will take a risk and have Turkey invade Syria for reasons of "self defence", and as Russia has no treaties with Syria and only essentially airforces in Syria, cannot do anything other than shout, and there will be a lot of shouting from all quarters and nobody looking at Donbass and, bang!. Any Kiev offensive will be portrayed as "defensive" and "righteous" whether the Stasi hausfrau agrees or not. It is not rational for Turkey to invade Syria or Kiev to attack Donbass, it is madness, but we are dealing with a Washington that has long been mad, and this is what I have been saying a long time, that all the diplomacy and talk of "partners" is totaly wasted as it all depends on what the loonies do. We are fast coming to endgame with Washington over these affairs and it will be unpleasant for Washington and disasterous for it's puppets.

    Pretty much what we all anticipated. NAF is ready and waiting and if ukrops want to attempt to preserve Kiev gang they will have to attack.

    And that means leaving their rat holes and stepping out in to the open.
    Agree and probably not just the NAF. As I have mentioned before, I think we can be pretty certain that, on the other side of the border, key co-ordinates are already programmed into systems with fingers poised over buttons. Russian 'feet on the ground' have not really been affected by the events in Syria. There must be a view in Moscow that, given what is happening in Syria, they don't have a lot to lose if they use a fist in Ukraine.
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    Post  Kadmos45 Mon Nov 30, 2015 4:17 pm

    Guys what's going on with this Crimean blackout. Is it still in effect ? Can't find any new info about that ...
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    Post  auslander Mon Nov 30, 2015 4:18 pm

    The situation is getting very dangerous. The orcs are pouring in armor, arty and troops to the NAF lines and the bombardments are ratcheted up every night, all to the protestations that they, the orcs, are the victims of NAF aggression.

    The same gig is playing out on the Turk/Syria border, Turk troops and armor are arriving in numbers. There have also been unconfirmed reports that the Turks are making transit of the straights 'difficult' for Russian ships.

    I smell a serious war coming on two fronts.
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    Post  auslander Mon Nov 30, 2015 4:29 pm

    Kadmos45 wrote:Guys what's going on with this Crimean blackout. Is it still in effect ? Can't find any new info about that ...

    Yes, nothing has changed. One power line is repaired but the orcs are keeping it off line.

    Here's my latest info on Saker, the third SitRep of late:

    http://thesaker.is/crimea-sitrep-by-auslander/

    Generators are selling like hotcakes, a week ago our house was the only one with lights at night. Now there's an even dozen within sight of us just in our little valley.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Nov 30, 2015 4:40 pm

    auslander wrote:
    Kadmos45 wrote:Guys what's going on with this Crimean blackout. Is it still in effect ? Can't find any new info about that ...

    Yes, nothing has changed. One power line is repaired but the orcs are keeping it off line.

    Here's my latest info on Saker, the third SitRep of late:

    http://thesaker.is/crimea-sitrep-by-auslander/

    Generators are selling like hotcakes, a week ago our house was the only one with lights at night. Now there's an even dozen within sight of us just in our little valley.

    Bit more on this. It seems the Energy Minister would love to turn the switch but he does not have the power (pun intended!). From previous reports it seems to be only the 220KV line that is repairable, which only supplies a very limited area, some of it in Ukraine and not the three 370KV lines that are the important ones. We could have a fudge going on here.

    KIEV, November 30. /TASS/. Ukraine’s Minister of Energy and Coal Mining Industry Volodymyr Demchishin said there is need to resume the supply of electricity to Crimea, which was interrupted due to Ukraine ceasing the deliveries of electric power because of explosions on its power transmission lines. "I think it would be right to commence energy supplies to Crimea," Demchishin said. In addition, according to Demchishin, the current situation with the power outage in the Kherson region creates a real threat of disaster. "With the onset of cold weather the situation with energy supplies in Ukraine became more complicated. The other day half of the Kherson region was disconnected. There is a threat of disaster," the Ministe said.

    As for resuming the supply of coal from Donbas, according to Demchishin, it could resume during the day. However, it is directly connected to resuming supplies to Crimea, the Minister explained. "[The supply of - TASS] Coal from the Donetsk People's Republic could resume today. This issue is related to the resumption of supplies to the Crimea. There is a connection between these issues," Demchishin said.

    Crimea was left without electricity supplies at night of November 22 after Ukraine stopped delivering electric power because of explosions on its power transmission lines.

    Earlier Russia’s Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev said that Ukraine’s cutting power supply to Crimea is diversion and the power bridge construction should be expedited. "The region was left without electricity essentially as a result of energy manipulations and acts of Ukraine’s authorities. Speaking in legal terms, this is subversion, that is, destruction of industrial facilities, which actually pursues terroristic objectives," Medvedev said. Such acts left Crimean residents without heat and electricity. "They jeopardized life and health of many people, including social facilities. Therefore there could be no other political assessments," the prime minister said. Measures are already undertaken to provide Crimea with power. "Acceleration of power bridge construction across the Kerch Strait is probably the most important in this situation," he added.
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    Post  Ispan Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:28 pm

    Hi, I got banned for a few days from my usual haunt at the Spanish forum for telling some filthy German that he was lying about the war in Ukraine. It was worth it. Though it makes a bit harder to update my blog and monitor the situation.

    As expected, the troop buildup grows, and so does the harassing fire with mortars. now adding tank cannon fire. Perhaps our Russian friends with access to sources from the frontline can confirm this, but I have reason to believe that the situation in the front line is actually worse than what the official communiqués of the Donetsk Republic says. Simply put because the Kremlin and their "partners" cannot publish that the truce only exists on paper and they downplay the continuous fighting. The reports I get straight from Russian translated by my contact from Chile, wich are mostly reports from local residents and some from militiamen describe usually more intense fighting than the official reports from Basurin.

    Indirectly, sporadic shelling and skirmishing could not inflict the numbers of casualties the Ukrainians are known to be suffering, and also the Novorussians. I mean a hundred dead and killed a day, and that is not achieved with a few mortar bombs every now and then.

    Another thing is that these official reports by Basurin are only a fraction of the troop buildup and deployment going on. In intelligence, what you don't see is as important if no more than what you actually see. I do suspect that if Novorussian intel is really good, what they report is only a fraction of what they do know, so in order not to reveal their intel and recon capabilities and keep the enemy guessing about how much of their dispositions is known. It could be possible that if the fighting is downplayed, so are intelligence reports on enemy movements in order to maintain the pretense that there is a ceasefire.

    Of this last report, the things I find more significant and telltale clues of an attack in the making are the following:

    1 - The tanks and armored vehicles, that is an obvious clue.

    2 - The depoyment of the D-30 122mm howitzers. Artillery needs gun emplacements

    3 - The ammunition trucks. All the rest of the deployments may be feints and posturing but the arrival of trucks with ammunition, fuel and supplies are always the most telltale sign of a serious attack being prepared.


    http://tass.ru/en/world/840373


    Ukrainian army redeploys 277 tanks, heavy artillery pieces to contact line — DPR


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    November 30, 16:18UTC+3
    "The military-political leadership of Ukraine, taking advantage of the ceasefire regime, is actively building up forces and redeploying the troops all along the contact line," Basurin added.


    MOSCOW, November 30. /TASS/. The Ukrainian armed forces over the past week have redeployed to the contact line in the southeast of the country 277 tanks and heavy artillery pieces, spokesman for the Defense Ministry of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) Eduard Basurin reported on Monday.

    "The Donetsk republic’s reconnaissance units continue to fix the movement and concentration of military hardware along the entire contact line and violation by the Ukrainian side of the Minsk agreements on the withdrawal of heavy weapons," Basurin is quoted by the Donetsk news agency.

    According to Basurin, the Ukrainian forces over the past week have moved military hardware to the separation line in various settlements in the areas of the cities of Gorlovka, Mariupol and Donetsk. The Ukrainian armed forces have concentrated at the contact line a total of 111 artillery pieces (including self-propelled artillery weapons, the BM-21 Grad multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS), D-30 systems, 166 tanks, 147 infantry fighting vehicles and armoured personnel carriers, 26 vehicles with ammunition and more than 660 troops, including members of the Ukrainian extremist organisation Right Sector the activity of which is banned in Russia.

    "The military-political leadership of Ukraine, taking advantage of the ceasefire regime, is actively building up forces and redeploying the troops all along the contact line," Basurin added.

    Basurin said earlier on Monday that the Ukrainian armed forces 91 times opened fire over the past week on the DPR territory. The shelling attacks were launched from mortars and tank weapons, he said. "I would like to draw the attention to the fact that over the past week the Ukrainian forces have 91 times violated the ceasefire regime," the Donetsk news agency quoted him as saying.

    According to Basurin, about 370 mortar rounds of 82 mm and 120 mm calibre were fired on the DPR settlements and positions. "All the data on the violations were handed over to JCCC (the Joint Centre for Control and Coordination of the ceasefire regime in the east of Ukraine) and the OSCE Mission," the DPR Defence Ministry official said.

    The DPR Defense Ministry reported earlier on Monday that the Ukrainian forces have 9 times violated the ceasefire regime in DPR over the past day.
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    Post  franco Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:40 pm

    ExBeobachter1987 wrote:Has anyone noticed the emptiness of the Ukrainian airspace?

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    And Syria.
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    Post  Werewolf Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:42 pm

    That is why i don't visit german forums at all.

    As long it is anti russian you can tell Putin is a martian that eats babies at full moon but dare to say anything that is actually true or post evidence you get immidiatley warning or right out ban and they clean of course afterwards. All your little evidences, videos are first attacked and than deleted as "propaganda" because you are putin troll.

    German forums are worthless either you get beaten by the Anti-Faschists or by the Faschists.
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    Post  JohninMK Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:49 pm

    But but but, its all quieter in the East, Kiev says so! So it must be true.

    The intensity of shelling by the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Luhansk people's republics (DPR and LPR) has significantly lowered, and there have been only ten such incidents over the past 24 hours, Ukrainian presidential spokesman for the military operation in Donbas Andriy Lysenko said. "The situation in the ATO [antiterrorist operation] zone significantly improved yesterday. Ten ceasefire violations by the enemy were recorded yesterday, all of them in the Donetsk sector. The shelling was mostly untargeted and usually lasted for up to 10 minutes," Lysenko said at a news conference in Kyiv on Saturday.

    No Ukrainian armed forces servicemen have been killed, although five soldiers have been injured over the past 24 hours, Lysenko said. "We have not lost any of our soldiers due to combat actions over the past 24 hours. At the same time, five Ukrainian military servicemen have sustained injuries by hitting explosive devices. This happened in Novhorodske and in Troitske, the Donetsk region," he said.
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    Post  franco Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:48 pm

    Another defection to the Donbas, this time a SBU General;

    http://rusnext.ru/news/1448908635

    Also read that the next Prisoner exchange, is to include the Russian "Major" caught driving ammo thru the border for the Intelligence officer captured from the 81st brigade UAF.
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    Post  Godric Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:51 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:Ukrainian's new kind of BMPT

    https://www.rt.com/news/323887-tank-city-ukraine-avakov/

    ... and Russians joked that it looks like a trashbin.

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    I'm pretty sure their were some videos of the HaHols converting some T-64s into these IFVs ,,,, if I remember rightly we commented how amateurish and cheap they were in converting the T-64s into these IFVs
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:43 pm

    Here we go, one to make you smile and two to show the international finance system is just for show.

    The US was found to have sent mostly outdated military equipment to Ukraine, as trust issues and corruption continue to degrade Ukraine's military supply.
    Although the US Congress recently approved $300 million in lethal aid for Ukraine as part of its National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), the country continues to receive mostly outdated and used US military equipment, according to the Washington Post. However, the outmoded equipment could be the result of Ukrainian military corruption, and not only incompetence in the US military bureaucracy. Previous shipments of meals ready-to-eat (MREs) previously ended up on online auction sites such as eBay according to reports, while more sensitive high-tech equipment, which faces export controls in the US, runs the risk of being captured or similarly sold off. One infantry unit of 120 men received a single bulletproof jacket from the US, according to the report.
    "If the Americans are going to send us equipment, don’t send us secondhand stuff," one Ukrainian special forces commander said. The Washington Post report mentioned equipment such as Humvees with worn-out tires and plastic doors. Both a lack of funding and preparation have been blamed in the US. The US sent around 100 Humvee jeeps to Ukraine, although most of them appear to be meant for spare parts, according to an official interviewed by the publication.
    The Ukrainian military has also lost sensitive equipment such as an AN/TPQ-49 lightweight counter-mortar radar, which was lost during Kiev's retreat from the town of Debaltsevo, according to the New York Times.
    The US plans to send more equipment to Ukraine as its frozen conflict with Donbass independence supporters continues, although the Obama administration has so far refrained from sending deadly weapons, which have been referred to as "lethal aid."

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151201/1031033684/us-ukraine-obsolete-aid.html#ixzz3t4IjnD1g


    WASHINGTON (Sputnik) – The International Monetary Fund board of directors will meet in early December to discuss changing the crediting rules to permit the sovereign debt default of the debtor, a source said. "[The meeting]is scheduled for early December," the source told RIA Novosti.
    The source did not elaborate on the date, only adding that it was not final and the meeting had previously been postponed. The IMF has been discussing the reform for over five years, but the acceleration of discussions on the issue is likely to be linked to the possibility of Ukraine defaulting on the Russian debt.
    Ukraine’s debt amounts to $70 billion of which some $40 billion the country owes to international money lenders. Of that amount, Ukraine owes Russia $3 billion and is required to pay it back by the end of 2015.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151201/1031024035/imf-defaulted-debtors-loans.html#ixzz3t4Hw3eGi


    Ukraine's finance ministry has submitted its new budget proposal, which it hopes will allow it to avoid a freeze of IMF funding over disagreements with the country's parliament. Ukraine's new budget totals $28.1 billion with a $3.4 billion deficit, according to a new document issued by the country's finance ministry. To accommodate the country' new tax system, the finance ministry seeks $2.5 billion in budget cuts, while the country's parliament seeks to cut $8.4 billion. The finance ministry considers the cuts unsustainable.
    The International Monetary Fund has frozen another $1.7 billion tranche for Ukraine because of disagreements over tax reforms. Both the parliament and the finance ministry seek to have a military budget of between $3.5 billion and $7 billion, which could make it total more than a third of the national budget if the parliamentary cuts are passed.
    According to IMF projections, Ukraine's nominal GDP for 2015 is estimated at around $90.1 billion. The economy is expected to surpass its 2010 levels by 2020, according to its estimates. New IMF funds may also be frozen if Ukraine fails to repay the $3 billion it owes Russia.

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151201/1031029003/ukraine-finance-ministry-budget.html#ixzz3t4IFlhY1
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:35 pm

    We have heard this before, there must be some kind of International meeting coming up that needs reassuring. Never any mention of the numbers and breakdown of those in the Kiev Governments hands.

    KIEV, November 30. /TASS/. Ukraine is ready to exchange prisoners on the "all for all" basis at any moment, Ukraine Security Service chairman’s advisor Yury Tandit said on Monday. "Ukraine is ready at any moment, on any day for a joint operation and to release everyone in several hours," UNN news agency quoted Tandit as saying. According to Tandit, around 140 people are currently held as prisoners in Donbas. "Among them are 80 people from the defense ministry, National Guard, volunteer battalions and around 60 civilians," he added. He noted that talks are "held every day". "The main thing is that enormous work is being done to search for those alive and dead, for missing persons," Tandit continued.

    Ukrainian president’s commissioner for peaceful settlement in Donbass Irina Geraschenko said earlier that 148 military and civilians are held as prisoners in Donbass.

    On November 29 the self-proclaimed Luhansk People’s Republic (LPR) people’s militia headquarters deputy commander Igor Yaschenko said that the prisoner exchange was disrupted by the Ukrainian side. "The Ukrainian side has unilaterally refused to take part in the exchange for reasons unknown to us," Yaschenko said adding that this is not the first such case.
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    Post  auslander Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:57 pm

    It is confirmed by eyes on reliable sources that the orcs are moving armor, arty and troops to the area of the Krimu border. The locals on both sides are aghast, the ones we spoke to this early evening can't believe what they are seeing. One pebble tossed in to Krim from Kherson Oblast and Mother will make it look like a monkey having conjugal relations with a football and it'll be the orcs with the laces up their backs. Suicide much?

    The fighting on NAF lines is stronger every night, bombardments and infantry probes. OSCE is out of the field by 16:00, can't miss dinner at the hotel and then there's cocktail hour. The orcs wait until 20:00 or 21:00, then start their attacks and bombardments. It is of interest that NAF Command has said on more then one occasion of late that if hostilities resume full force then the borders after the fighting will be drawn by Novorossiya, not EU, US, NATO or OSCE. If fighting resumes we look for some really serious sanctions this time.
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:30 pm

    Holy sh*t Batman, they did so well on a single front last time that they are now doubling up.

    Can anyone get their head around the strategic logic of this?

    Donbas first move then Crimea, Crimea first move then Donbas, both together, Donbas first move then Crimea if Russia responds?
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    Post  auslander Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:44 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Holy sh*t Batman, they did so well on a single front last time that they are now doubling up.

    Can anyone get their head around the strategic logic of this?

    Donbas first move then Crimea, Crimea first move then Donbas, both together, Donbas first move then Crimea if Russia responds?

    Perhaps the orcs feel that if Mother didn't clean orcland to the Dnepr in February that the orcs can do what they want with little fear of retribution. Methinks they might be mistaken. Novorossiya is not part of Russia, Krim and Sevastopol are.
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    Post  JohninMK Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:53 pm

    auslander wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Holy sh*t Batman, they did so well on a single front last time that they are now doubling up.

    Can anyone get their head around the strategic logic of this?

    Donbas first move then Crimea, Crimea first move then Donbas, both together, Donbas first move then Crimea if Russia responds?

    Perhaps the orcs feel that if Mother didn't clean orcland to the Dnepr in February that the orcs can do what they want with little fear of retribution. Methinks they might be mistaken. Novorossiya is not part of Russia, Krim and Sevastopol are.
    You could be right especially as Russia is in quite a different place now following Syria with a much better view of the potential downsides. Maybe its just the US pushing this vassal forward to test Russia's ability to fight on two fronts, here and Syria, neither of which pose much risk to US citizens or assets.
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    Post  PapaDragon Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:04 pm

    auslander wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Holy sh*t Batman, they did so well on a single front last time that they are now doubling up.

    Can anyone get their head around the strategic logic of this?

    Donbas first move then Crimea, Crimea first move then Donbas, both together, Donbas first move then Crimea if Russia responds?

    Perhaps the orcs feel that if Mother didn't clean orcland to the Dnepr in February that the orcs can do what they want with little fear of retribution. Methinks they might be mistaken. Novorossiya is not part of Russia, Krim and Sevastopol are.


    I have no doubt that ukrops are stupid enough to try.

    I also have no doubt that in that case Russian Military will perform reverse terraforming of the Ukraine.

    Even Novo is suicide for them but Crimea? Popcorn time!!! Twisted Evil russia
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    Post  Rodinazombie Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:08 pm

    Sorry if this sounds bad, but im pretty much wishing that they will attack crimea.

    It would be like a braindamaged toddler trying to fight a heavyweight boxer.

    Complete suicide for them, thats why i dont think even their idiocy stretches that far.
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    Post  sepheronx Tue Dec 01, 2015 6:27 pm

    Maybe Ukraine learned that Putin does not respond to the murder of their own military men that they think there wont be a Russian military response if they attacked Ukraine. Alread PUkraine violated Russian territory more than once and even killed a Russian civillian.
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    Post  auslander Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:25 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Maybe Ukraine learned that Putin does not respond to the murder of their own military men that they think there wont be a Russian military response if they attacked Ukraine. Alread PUkraine violated Russian territory more than once and even killed a Russian civillian.

    Possibly, but after the shelling of Rostov Oblast and the death of the elderly gentleman I would be willing to bet that although there is no incontrovertible proof that the North Wind actually blew there are a lot of widows and mothers without sons from the cauldron battles very shortly thereafter who very well understood the error of their son's and husband's ways.
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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:51 pm

    auslander, why you call Crimea "Krimu"? In Russian it's Крым (Krim - the sound represented by "ы" does not exist in English)

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