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    The Situation in the Ukraine. #22

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    Post  Ispan Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:04 pm

    Seems the orks are gearing up for a major attack, not just skirmishes to keep the "neither war neither peace" situation going on

    http://fortruss.blogspot.co.uk/2015/11/frontline-update-uaf-changes-routine.html

    We all knew they had to make a last throw of the dice this year. We knew they almost attacked at the end of august and offensive was aborted at the last hour. We also know the other powers are content with freezing the conflict.

    But the junta only way out is war, and the upcoming bankruptcy when they stop paying debts to Russia may be the catalyst for one major push this year. Everything seemed set to stagnate during winter, but there is still the possibility that they do try something before year's end. I believe it will be something larger than the current skirmishing but short of an all out offensive. A major local attack to try and gain some kind of "peremoga"


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    Post  JohninMK Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:20 pm

    Citing numerous wounds as a reason, Right Sector leader Dmytro Yarosh stepped down, saying that he remained "a nationalist, statist and revolutionary".

    KIEV (Sputnik) – Ukrainian lawmaker and head of the radical Right Sector organization Dmytro Yarosh has resigned.

    “After being wounded and under long-time care, I have entrusted some of my managerial duties in the Right Sector to my closest associates…and have resigned,” Yarosh said on this Facebook account.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151111/1029921091/yarosh-resigns.html#ixzz3rBvMvQx3
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    Post  ExBeobachter1987 Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:30 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Citing numerous wounds as a reason, Right Sector leader Dmytro Yarosh stepped down, saying that he remained "a nationalist, statist and revolutionary".

    Good to see that confirms that he is a fascist.
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    Post  JohninMK Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:32 pm

    Creeping Western military control of Ukraine, bit like the US in Germany in a way.

    Even though Ukraine’s dream of joining NATO may never come true, the alliance will eventually gain control over the country’s armed forces and paramilitary units, a Russian defense analyst said on Tuesday. “It does not look like Ukraine will join the Western defense alliance because, according to the NATO Charter, member-states must help a fellow member in the event of a conflict. But in the case of Ukraine, NATO does not need this,” Viktoria Legranova said in an interview with Sputnik. “What it needs is military-political and, if necessary, combat-stage control over the Ukrainian military,” she added.

    NATO’s work with Ukraine is two-pronged: to achieve full compatibility with its military standards and establish the necessary command and control infrastructure there.

    “As a result, NATO will be able to set up a network of tactical operational centers across Ukraine to control the country’s armed forces and also the paramilitary groups, active there. If, for some reason, the government slips out of [Western] control or a new president comes to power, these paramilitary units could be used to restore the status-quo,” Viktoria Legranova noted.

    Ukraine’s military chief of staff, General Viktor Muzhenko, earlier said that NATO specialists would help draw up the concept of Ukraine’s defense buildup until 2020.

    According to Ukraine’s new military doctrine, by 2020 the country’s armed forces are to become fully compatible with NATO standards.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151111/1029910616/nato-ukraine-military.html#ixzz3rC3Sq000
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    Post  JohninMK Wed Nov 11, 2015 8:24 pm

    So, not a terrorist operation.It was (perhaps) a pretty good way of getting rid of evidence or camouflage 'cash export' sales. Note it is an 'acting head' who is the fall guy.

    The fire at an ammunition depot in Svatove, Luhansk region, broke out due to negligence of officials, Chief Military Prosecutor of Ukraine, Deputy Prosecutor General Anatoliy Matios has said. "The cause of the fire at the ammunition depot in Svatove was negligence of officials, in particular, the head of the depot," Matios said on Hromadske.TV channel on Tuesday evening.

    "Yesterday, based on the obtained evidence... the Main Military Prosecutor's Office in the anti-terrorist operation zone notified the acting head of the united warehouses of rocket and artillery armament of the sector A... that he is suspected of committing an offense under Part 3 of Article 425 of the Criminal Code (negligent attitude to military service, which resulted in grave consequences)," Matios said.

    As reported, on October 29, an artillery depot containing 3,500 tonnes of ammunition near Svatove exploded.

    The fire was put out in 24 hours. Three soldiers and a local resident were killed as the result of the incident. Several other persons were also injured.


    http://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/302923.html
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    Post  Godric Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:23 pm

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    Post  PapaDragon Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:51 pm


    Looks like nobody likes Ukraine anymore... lol1

    "Ukraine Chooses Homophobia Over Europe"

    http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-chooses-homophobia-over-europe-222004868.html

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    Post  franco Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:47 am

    Poroshenko giving interview in English, 25 minutes long. Remember to love your computer.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XosaGCycZ4
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    Post  franco Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:57 am

    What a hoot!!

    https://twitter.com/BungeeWedgie

    Sorry drop down to tweet 5 hours ago of the intercepted Iphone message...
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:13 am

    franco wrote:What a hoot!!

    https://twitter.com/BungeeWedgie

    Sorry drop down to tweet 5 hours ago of the intercepted Iphone message...

    Yeah I saw that earlier, that's what you call micro-managing your puppets...

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Nov 12, 2015 6:20 pm

    Ah couple of days ago Poro said there was a shot to kill policy, someone can't have liked that, now we have from Interfax

    Warriors in Donbas to open fire in return if only extreme need occurs – Poroshenko

    The military men, who now are serving in the eastern part of Ukraine, have been instructed to repel the enemy's attacks if any threat to their lives occurs, Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko said. "Ukrainian military men have a firm order in the conditions, when a threat to their life exists, under conditions when they are an object of attack, under extreme necessity to open fire in return. We won't admit that the enemy could take us by surprise," the head of state said when opening the meeting of National Security and Defense Council.

    Though, the president added that these were just defensive actions, which required in response to militants' provocations, and if not to take them into account, Ukraine impeccably sticks to peace agreements.

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    Post  JohninMK Thu Nov 12, 2015 6:26 pm

    A classic of both sides saying "they did it" with Kiev twitching first

    Russia preparing provocation to file suit against Ukraine at The Hague – presidential administration

    Russia is preparing falsified materials about Ukraine's supposed genocide of the Russia-speaking population in Donbas, specifically that Ukrainian military personnel supposedly killed 500 citizens of the village of Sokilnyky in Luhansk region in order to file a suit against Ukraine at The Hague, Ukrainian presidential administration spokesman on Anti-Terrorist Operation issues Andriy Lysenko has said.

    "To distract attention from the tragic events in Syria, where civilian deaths resulting from the actions of the Russian army are already being registered, the Russian leadership is preparing a provocation on an international scale against Ukraine. Its aim is to discredit the Ukrainian leadership, to get a reason to appeal to The Hague International Criminal Court (ICC) to file lawsuit against Ukraine, as well as for creating the grounds for Russia's exit from the Minsk process," he said at a briefing in Kyiv on Thursday. Lysenko said that Russia is 'preparing documentary materials alleging that Ukraine destroyed about 400 houses and killed 500 residents of the village of Sokilnyky in Luhansk region which is now in temporarily occupied territory."

    According to him, the Russian Federal Security Service, the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces' Main Intelligence Directorate, the Investigation Committee of the Russian Federation, and representatives of so-called force structures of Luhansk People's Republic were engaged in this propaganda. "Propagandists use real facts of destruction in the village of Sokilnyky and the deaths of its citizens, who became victims of militants and the Russian troops during military actions in late 2014-early 2015," Lysenko said.
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    Post  PapaDragon Thu Nov 12, 2015 9:37 pm

    JohninMK wrote:A classic of both sides saying "they did it" with Kiev twitching first

    Russia preparing provocation to file suit against Ukraine at The Hague – presidential administration

    Russia is preparing falsified materials about Ukraine's supposed genocide of the Russia-speaking population in Donbas, specifically that Ukrainian military personnel supposedly killed 500 citizens of the village of Sokilnyky in Luhansk region in order to file a suit against Ukraine at The Hague, Ukrainian presidential administration spokesman on Anti-Terrorist Operation issues Andriy Lysenko has said.

    "To distract attention from the tragic events in Syria, where civilian deaths resulting from the actions of the Russian army are already being registered, the Russian leadership is preparing a provocation on an international scale against Ukraine. Its aim is to discredit the Ukrainian leadership, to get a reason to appeal to The Hague International Criminal Court (ICC) to file lawsuit against Ukraine, as well as for creating the grounds for Russia's exit from the Minsk process," he said at a briefing in Kyiv on Thursday. Lysenko said that Russia is 'preparing documentary materials alleging that Ukraine destroyed about 400 houses and killed 500 residents of the village of Sokilnyky in Luhansk region which is now in temporarily occupied territory."

    According to him, the Russian Federal Security Service, the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces' Main Intelligence Directorate, the Investigation Committee of the Russian Federation, and representatives of so-called force structures of Luhansk People's Republic were engaged in this propaganda. "Propagandists use real facts of destruction in the village of Sokilnyky and the deaths of its citizens, who became victims of militants and the Russian troops during military actions in late 2014-early 2015," Lysenko said.

    Normally this would be slam-dunk case but since this is Ukraine and Hague...

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    Post  higurashihougi Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:48 am

    Andriy Lysenko wrote:"To distract attention from the tragic events in Syria, where civilian deaths resulting from the actions of the Russian army are already being registered(...)"

    How did he invent these stuff ?
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:41 am

    Its six weeks to go now to the 31st December and Kiev knows it will not have the money to repay the Russian $3B loan , so almost certainly a default on a 'sovereign' debt, which is a very serious step in International finance for a country this size. So what do they do?

    Tell Russia they will default, so that Russia has time to get the lawyers all prepped in London ready to sue. This event will be a real test of Russia's will to stand up to the West. Russia set this loan up as a potential poison pill, now lets see if they have the b*lls to administer it or will they chicken out?

    KIEV (Sputnik) – Kiev will impose a moratorium on the repayment of a $3-billion sovereign loan from Russia if Moscow refuses to restructure it, Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk said Friday.

    “Unfortunately, we offered to hold negotiations on October 29, but Russia refused to hold talks, now it depends on whether Russia wants to hold talks or not. If Russia doesn’t agree, then the Cabinet of Ministers will impose a moratorium on paying the $3-billion Russian loan,” Yatsenyuk said.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151113/1030024577/loan-russia-moratorium-ukraine.html#ixzz3rMmDjQro
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    Post  JohninMK Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:50 am

    Kiev back to its old tactic of 'woe is us' or 'they are going to attack any moment' before an International get together. From Interfax

    Minsk process in jeopardy, must be discussed - Klimkin Ukrainian Foreign Minister Pavlo Klimkin has said that the Minsk process is in jeopardy. "Now the entire Minsk process, especially the ceasefire, is without doubt in jeopardy, and we must talk about this," he said on Ukraine Today (uatoday.tv) on Thursday evening.

    Klimkin said that the Ukrainian authorities have information on the movements of troops in the temporarily occupied territory of Donbas, as well as on armaments which have been deployed at the region's industrial facilities.

    "We still aren't sure about this process. How can we be sure without complete access to Donbas? If every day we have incidents and we know about this, about the arms, the heavy weapons as well, hidden at the coalmines and industrial facilities, if we have information about the movements of troops in Donbas, we can't speak about a real ceasefire," he said.

    Klimkin added that his diplomatic colleagues were informed about the dangerous situation in Donbas ahead of the upcoming meeting of the Foreign Affairs Council of EU Member States.

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    Post  higurashihougi Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:02 pm

    JohninMK wrote:Its six weeks to go now to the 31st December and Kiev knows it will not have the money to repay the Russian $3B loan , so almost certainly a default on a 'sovereign' debt, which is a very serious step in International finance for a country this size. So what do they do?

    Tell Russia they will default, so that Russia has time to get the lawyers all prepped in London ready to sue. This event will be a real test of Russia's will to stand up to the West. Russia set this loan up as a potential poison pill, now lets see if they have the b*lls to administer it or will they chicken out?

    KIEV (Sputnik) – Kiev will impose a moratorium on the repayment of a $3-billion sovereign loan from Russia if Moscow refuses to restructure it, Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk said Friday.

    “Unfortunately, we offered to hold negotiations on October 29, but Russia refused to hold talks, now it depends on whether Russia wants to hold talks or not. If Russia doesn’t agree, then the Cabinet of Ministers will impose a moratorium on paying the $3-billion Russian loan,” Yatsenyuk said.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151113/1030024577/loan-russia-moratorium-ukraine.html#ixzz3rMmDjQro

    I don't expect to hear anything sane from Asswenuts. Probably he is chosen to play the role of mental patients. His face is very suitable for such roles.
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    Post  JohninMK Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:22 am

    higurashihougi wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:Its six weeks to go now to the 31st December and Kiev knows it will not have the money to repay the Russian $3B loan , so almost certainly a default on a 'sovereign' debt, which is a very serious step in International finance for a country this size. So what do they do?

    Tell Russia they will default, so that Russia has time to get the lawyers all prepped in London ready to sue. This event will be a real test of Russia's will to stand up to the West. Russia set this loan up as a potential poison pill, now lets see if they have the b*lls to administer it or will they chicken out?

    KIEV (Sputnik) – Kiev will impose a moratorium on the repayment of a $3-billion sovereign loan from Russia if Moscow refuses to restructure it, Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk said Friday.

    “Unfortunately, we offered to hold negotiations on October 29, but Russia refused to hold talks, now it depends on whether Russia wants to hold talks or not. If Russia doesn’t agree, then the Cabinet of Ministers will impose a moratorium on paying the $3-billion Russian loan,” Yatsenyuk said.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151113/1030024577/loan-russia-moratorium-ukraine.html#ixzz3rMmDjQro

    I don't expect to hear anything sane from Asswenuts. Probably he is chosen to play the role of mental patients. His face is very suitable for such roles.
    Its getting worse

    Our guy Yats is failing miserably. As predicted. The government of Arseniy “Yats” Yatsenyuk now holds the coveted credit rating of D in the capital city Kyiv, which means a default on some of its foreign debt is now imminent. Major global fund managers Templeton Asset Management, holds billions of Ukrainian bonds. It is unclear who owns Kyiv debt.

    It is unlikely Ukraine will be paying them back. On Thursday, Fitch Ratings lowered Kyiv’s credit rating from triple C to D, the default rating. The national sovereign debt is still CCC-. The downgrade shows just how fragile the economic situation is in the country following nearly two years of political crisis.

    Kyiv failed to carry out payments on $250 million in eurobonds on Friday. Kyiv introduced a temporary moratorium on debt on November 6, 2015. The default includes another payment of $300 million, which the capital city will miss.

    Ukraine’s government recently failed to convince Russia to restructure a $3 billion loan. The two former political and cultural allies have parted ways since the 2014 ousting of Russia friendly leader Viktor Yanukovych and the subsequent secession of Crimea, now part of Russia.

    Meanwhile, the nation’s sovereign debt is in what Fitch calls “restricted default” after it missed a $500 million payment due Sept. 23. Ukraine’s currency, the hryvnia, is down 30.9% year-to-date. It is currently surviving on European and IMF bailout packages.


    http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2015/11/12/fitch-ratings-hints-ukraine-bankruptcy-close-as-kyiv-defaults/
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    Post  Cowboy's daughter Sat Nov 14, 2015 1:02 am

    from facebook

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    Ivan Katchanovski: "As it was expected, the International Criminal Court has suggested that it won't investigate the Maidan massacre and other cases of political violence during the "Euromaidan" because they did not constitute crimes against humanity. Independent investigations of the Maidan massacre are now unlikely, while the official investigation in Ukraine is openly falsified in order to promote the politically convenient version of the massacre. The AFP story again attributes the massacre to the government forces. But even results of ballistic expertise by the Ukrainian investigation that for the first time were made public during the Berkut trial on November 12 have confirmed my study findings that the protesters were massacred from the Maidan-controlled locations, in particular, the Hotel Ukraina."


    and

    Ivan Katchanovski

    In her interview to LB the Maidan lawyer and activist repeats falsified results of the government investigation. The GPU investigation based their conclusions that 39 protesters were killed by Berkut on expert reports which generally only said that the protesters were within areas/sectors which could be targeted from Berkut positions. A map in my study shows that all 49 protesters were killed within fire areas/sectors of the Maidan snipers. The trial, which she attends, already produced evidence, such as ballistic and medical expert reports, confirming that at least the absolute majority of the 39 protesters were killed not from the Berkut positions but from the Hotel Ukraina and other Maidan controlled locations. But the Ukrainian and the Western media do not report these findings. I'll post new findings from the trial, specifically results of ballistic studies, shortly. The government investigation also concluded that 10 more protesters were not killed by the Berkut but by snipers in the Hotel Ukraina and other Maidan-controlled locations. In another recent interview, this lawyer reveals that she handed in the BBC video , which shows snipers shooting from the Hotel Ukraina, to GPU. But her requests to get information about persons living in the hotel during the massacre were denied by the hotel staff, courts, and GPU.


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    Post  JohninMK Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:08 pm

    Couple of items from Interfax today. First it looks like batches of the AN/TPQ-36 are arriving. Think this might be the second batch.

    Two counter-battery radars are to be delivered from the United States to the city of Yavoriv in Ukraine's Lviv region this week, the U.S. Ambassador in Kyiv, Geoffrey Pyatt, has said. The U.S. has provided Ukraine with Humvee armored vehicles, counter-artillery radars, and now two counter-battery radars will be delivered to Yavoriv as early as this week, Pyatt said in an interview published on Friday.


    Then we have Poro bleating because the Russians want to protect their border from EU stuff, possibly relabelled as Ukrainian, pouring out of control over their border due to two trade agreements. Perhaps he should have thought about it earlier, the Russians have been warning about this for months.

    President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko has expressed his concern over Russia's intentions to introduce an embargo on imports of Ukrainian agricultural products, as well as a customs tariffs on products from Ukraine on January 1, 2016, during a meeting with European Commissioner for Trade Cecilia Malmstrom

    According to the presidential press service, Poroshenko informed the EU Commissioner about the economic situation in Ukraine, the implementation of the Minsk agreements, as well as the recent decisions of the Verkhovna Rada concerning the approval of the package of anti-corruption and anti-discrimination laws that are required for the EU's introduction of a visa-free regime for Ukrainian citizens. "We have to be ready for economic consequences because Russia uses not only the occupation of the sovereign independent state of Ukraine but also a trade war against us," Poroshenko said.

    The Ukrainian president also expressed hope for a favourable conclusion by an evaluation mission of the European Commission concerning Ukraine's readiness for the introduction of visa-free travel with the EU.

    The Ukrainian head of state said the country's free trade area with the EU, due to be launched from January 1, 2016, will take EU-Ukrainian trade and economic relations to a new level and foster subsequent development of the Ukrainian economy.



    Such optimism by Poro for the EU trade. Perhaps he should read press releases like this, unsanitary food!

    The European Union (EU) is not considering increasing its quotas on supplies of Ukrainian products, European Commissioner for Trade Cecilia Malmström told reporters in Kyiv on November 13. She said that the EU has increased quotas for supplies of pork, beef and poultry for Ukraine, although the quotas were not used in full as Ukrainian goods do not comply with EU sanitary requirements. She said that she plans to discuss the issue of improving sanitary standards for Ukrainian food with the Ukrainian agricultural policy and food minister during her visit to Kyiv.
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    Post  franco Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:32 pm

    Yarosh steps downs as head of the Right Sector but instead will assume command of it's military wing Suspect

    Dmitry Yarosh, clasped recently from the post of head of the extremist organization "Right Sector", stated that the series will head battalions and headquarters of the "Ukrainian Volunteer Corps", reports RIA News .

    Earlier in the "PS" reported that care Yarosh as head of the organization must approve the congress of the movement (the party), which will be held in January 2016

    "I am touched by the support and confidence of combat battalions, our glorious" Hospitaller "Staff" Volunteer Ukrainian body "Gratefully accept this proposal and declare that I take over the command of the corps headquarters, 5th, 8th battalions and a battalion" Hospitallers. " Meeting for further action body will be held in the near future, "- he wrote in his" Facebook ".

    Recall that the activities of the "SS" is prohibited in the Russian Federation, and Dmitry Yarosh Investigative Committee opened a criminal case for "public calls to terrorist activity."

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    Post  auslander Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:39 pm

    'NATO' is quietly arming and training the orcs. They must think that giving the orcs something besides a cigar to check the wind drift before they fire will enable them to defeat NAF in the coming offensive. That ain't gonna happen but you gotta give 'NATO' credit for eternal optimism. Perhaps someone should explain to them what 'forlorn hope' means, both clinical definition and the reality definition.

    So lemme see here. The orcs have blockaded Krimu for the last two months, food and everything else, and nobody says a word. Orcland is hoping to pour reboxed goods from 'eu' in to RF at 00:01 01.01.16 and fail to see why VVP et al might take umbrage at that act. 17 and months later 300 people are wounded and killed in Paris and The World is aghast and pouring sympathy on France. Over SIX THOUSAND civilians in Donbas have been killed since March 2014, TWENTY THOUSAND have been wounded with wanton destruction of everything the orcs could touch, steal or shoot in Donbas. Nobody says a word. We don't even wanna mention Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Bosnia, Syria, Irag, Afghan, Kosovo or the attempt in Jordan.

    As Bugs Bunny would say, 'what the fornication is wrong with those people!!!???????'


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    Post  JohninMK Sat Nov 14, 2015 7:20 pm

    Oooops, the 'alternative' activities of the Ukrainian Army helicopters may be OK up the 'commission' chain, but then this happens and makes a hole in the expected profit stream. Don't expect heads to roll anytime soon tho'.

    Commenting on the discovery of the wreckage of a Ukrainian Mi-2 transport helicopter in eastern Slovakia, Internal Affairs Minister Robert Kalinyak noted that Slovakia would use all the means at its disposal to protect its eastern border, up to and including the beefing up of its air defenses. The helicopter, which was discovered in the village of Stretavka near the Slovak-Ukrainian border on Friday, was believed to be carrying between 7-8 persons, and may have been used for people smuggling, according to statements by Ukrainian officials.

    Speaking to the Slovak news agency TASR, Kalinyak noted that in the interests of protecting Slovakia's eastern border from illegal airborne intrusions, the country would deploy air defenses. "The deployment of air defense systems on our eastern border is a very difficult decision. It is an emergency measure, but the moment demands such measures," the minister noted. "From now on, all available means will be used to defend our airspace," he added.

    Kalinyak stated earlier that policemen on the border with Ukraine had reported an intrusion by an unidentified aircraft into Slovakia. "After this an investigation began, but was complicated by bad weather, first and foremost by a dense fog. As soon as the fog lifted, we discovered [on Friday] the wreckage of an Mi-2 transport helicopter in the region of Michalovce. It was there that we discovered the bodies of the dead passengers. The investigation has only just begun," the minister noted.

    Kalinyak refused to confirm local media speculation that the helicopter may have been carrying refugees from South-East Asia in addition to Ukrainian citizens. "At the moment we cannot yet confirm or rule out any information about whether this may have been an illegal immigrant smuggling operation. Experts, criminologists and forensic doctors have arrived at the scene [of the crash] to investigate this tragedy."


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151114/1030113318/slovakia-ukraine-border-helicopter-crash.html#ixzz3rUVTG84B
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    Post  JohninMK Sat Nov 14, 2015 10:21 pm

    More from Interfax, its been a good day! Another oooops! Another fire breaks out.

    Fire breaks out at Eastern Europe's largest trade center in Kharkiv – emergencies service. Trade pavilions on the territory of the Barabashovo Trade Center near the Novy Vik (New Age) hypermarket in Kharkiv caught fire on Saturday morning.

    "The report about the fire at the Barabashovo shopping center arrived at 09:20. The area of the fire at this point (at around 11:40) is more than 2,000 square meters. Twenty units of fire-fighting equipment and 80 people are involved in extinguishing the fire. No one has turned for medical assistance," Assistant Chief of the Emergencies Service branch in Kharkiv region, Ihor Lupandyn told Interfax-Ukraine.

    Barabashovo shopping mall is the largest wholesale and retail trade center in Eastern Europe. It has an area of more than 75 hectares and houses over 18,000 of trading places and warehouses.



    Whilst over on the front line they have had an unusually bad day, also, those counter battery radar units today were the first to be delivered, on an accelerated timescale according to Poro today.

    Five Ukrainian military servicemen have been killed and four others injured over the past 24 hours, Ukrainian presidential spokesman for the anti-terrorist operation in eastern Ukraine Andriy Lysenko said at a news briefing in Kyiv on Saturday.
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    Post  auslander Sun Nov 15, 2015 7:19 am

    Fire was shown live on antimaidan last evening before sundown. Someone obviously did not pay the proper entity.

    Fighting all night and some continuing this morning, some sporadic and some continuous. The steadily increasing crescendo is as before, incrementally ratcheted up nightly.

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