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    B-21 "Raider" stealth bomber

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    Post  JohninMK on Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:01 pm

    This aircraft will be important.

    Details about the U.S. Air Force's new, secret B-21 Raider stealth bomber have so far been limited, but some have emerged since the service announced that it had picked Northrop Grumman to build it 2015. However, since then, there has only been a single piece of official concept art of the aircraft – that is until now.


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    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/32044/heres-our-analysis-of-the-air-forces-new-b-21-stealth-bomber-renderings

    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/14919/the-b-21s-three-decade-old-shape-hints-at-new-high-altitude-capabilities


    Steve Trimble
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    B-21 procurement math: USAF has $22.6 billion in FY21-25 spending plan for B-21. We know $12.3B is programmed for RDT&E. So that leaves $10.3B for procurement. Last year, USAF said FY20-24 plan had $5.9B for B-21 procurement. Result: FY21-25 plan adds $4.4B for B-21 procurement.
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    Post  ahmedfire on Tue Feb 25, 2020 6:24 pm

    I remebered the german Horten Ho 229

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Tue Feb 25, 2020 9:22 pm

    JohninMK wrote:This aircraft will be important.

    Details about the U.S. Air Force's new, secret B-21 Raider stealth bomber have so far been limited, but some have emerged since the service announced that it had picked Northrop Grumman to build it 2015. However, since then, there has only been a single piece of official concept art of the aircraft – that is until now.


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    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/32044/heres-our-analysis-of-the-air-forces-new-b-21-stealth-bomber-renderings

    https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/14919/the-b-21s-three-decade-old-shape-hints-at-new-high-altitude-capabilities


    Steve Trimble
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    B-21 procurement math: USAF has $22.6 billion in FY21-25 spending plan for B-21. We know $12.3B is programmed for RDT&E. So that leaves $10.3B for procurement. Last year, USAF said FY20-24 plan had $5.9B for B-21 procurement. Result: FY21-25 plan adds $4.4B for B-21 procurement.

    I wonder if we have any concept art of it's climate controlled hangars where it'll spend 40 hours in maintenance for every hour of flight time? Also it's funny you posted The Drive, one of the most infamous publications for Su-57 slander. Recently there's been not so flattering images floating on the internet of the F-22 with ram coatings resembling shattered glass and ruined Greco-Roman mosaic bath tiles....but surely in that state it's still more stealthy than the the Su-57. Wink
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    Post  kvs on Tue Feb 25, 2020 10:22 pm

    Trash talkers and those that denigrate are themselves inferior. Back during WWII Russian children were manning metal lathe machines
    and similar making munitions and aircraft parts for the war effort. In the Reich children were outfitted with machine guns. Tell
    me which takes more IQ to use.

    The flying wing is over-rated "stealth". It is OK from side angles but sucks from the top and the bottom regardless of any RAM coating.

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    Post  GarryB on Wed Feb 26, 2020 2:13 am

    Imagine the outcry in the west if the PAK DA looked like the Tu-160... I am wondering why they bother to include the 1 at the end... this is just a B-2 isn't it?

    For the US stealth is critical because they want a first strike system to cut the heads off the third world countries they invade when they can't regime change.

    For Russia their flying wing PAK DA just needs to be relatively stealthy from distance... when releasing 5,000km or 10,000km range cruise missiles at US targets from 1,000km off the coast its lower stealth requirements will be good enough to keep them safe but most importantly will be cheap enough so they can make enough of them to make an actual difference...
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    Post  JohninMK on Sun Mar 29, 2020 12:01 am

    Steve Trimble
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    Two new details about the B-21:

    1) "The B-21 engine noise is expected to be quieter
    than the B-1B and about the same or quieter than
    the B-2."

    2) "The B-21 is not expected to use low altitude
    training routes."

    https://b21eis.com/B-21%20EIS_Inf
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    Post  GarryB on Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:40 am

    1) "The B-21 engine noise is expected to be quieter
    than the B-1B and about the same or quieter than
    the B-2."

    2) "The B-21 is not expected to use low altitude
    training routes."

    So many un-necessary words in point number one... what it should be abbreviated to is:

    1) The B-21 is expected to be the same (as) the B-2.

    The really amusing thing is that they admit low altitude operations is hard on aircraft and no longer offer any ability to hide from Russian air defences...

    Rather expect the emphasis to shift from sneaking under the radar to standoff weapons firing from a distance.... a bit like Israeli F-35s are in Syria...

    Of course it means the new bomber will need to be able to carry a real shit-ton of munitions to penetrate defences... or maybe their space forces will be getting a hypersonic atmosphere skipping bomber... 10 trillion dollars and they will make it happen...

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