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    The Situation in the Ukraine. #19

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    Post  Khepesh Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:14 pm

    From now for the next four hours its likely there will be reports of large explosions near Donetsk, Gorlovka and Enakievo, and mushroom clouds etc. It's only disposal of unexploded munitions.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:20 pm


    Good, f*ck 'em...

    ''Ukraine Faces Humanitarian Catastrophe in Winter – Ex-European Commissioner''

    ''The Ukrainian economy is showing no signs of a rebound and the forthcoming winter may bring about a humanitarian catastrophe in a country where public disillusionment with the government is growing every day, German media wrote on Friday....''


    http://sputniknews.com/news/20150808/1025527803.html
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    Post  kvs Sat Aug 08, 2015 12:55 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Good, f*ck 'em...

    ''Ukraine Faces Humanitarian Catastrophe in Winter – Ex-European Commissioner''

    ''The Ukrainian economy is showing no signs of a rebound and the forthcoming winter may bring about a humanitarian catastrophe in a country where public disillusionment with the government is growing every day, German media wrote on Friday....''


    http://sputniknews.com/news/20150808/1025527803.html

    Good to hear about the disillusionment. Finally the attention is aimed in the right direction instead of the "terrorists" in the Donbas and
    evil Putler for messing up poor Ukraine. I think that economic ruin, misery and destitution is the only medicine for Ukraine. I want to
    see those dreamers of the easy life as EU toilet cleaners realize they flushed due process down the toilet for nothing and are getting it up
    the rear from all their so-called friends.

    But I don't expect these losers to start loving Russia. That ship has sailed. They are not brothers but backstabbing traitors that
    will have to make do on their own from now on. No more welfare from Russia.
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    Post  Neutrality Sat Aug 08, 2015 1:18 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Good, f*ck 'em...

    ''Ukraine Faces Humanitarian Catastrophe in Winter – Ex-European Commissioner''

    ''The Ukrainian economy is showing no signs of a rebound and the forthcoming winter may bring about a humanitarian catastrophe in a country where public disillusionment with the government is growing every day, German media wrote on Friday....''


    http://sputniknews.com/news/20150808/1025527803.html

    To sum it all up in one picture:

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    Post  Flagship Victory Sat Aug 08, 2015 2:12 pm

    1 Maidan soldier KIA and 9 Maidan soldiers WIA yesterday by NAF counter fire after they shelled Donetsk.
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    Post  higurashihougi Sat Aug 08, 2015 3:32 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Good, f*ck 'em...

    ''Ukraine Faces Humanitarian Catastrophe in Winter – Ex-European Commissioner''

    ''The Ukrainian economy is showing no signs of a rebound and the forthcoming winter may bring about a humanitarian catastrophe in a country where public disillusionment with the government is growing every day, German media wrote on Friday....''


    http://sputniknews.com/news/20150808/1025527803.html

    Still haven't seen the sign of Divine Obama Shale Oil yet Laughing Laughing I though Divine Obama Shale was advertised as a Divine Weapon which can topple Russian position in oil industry Laughing Laughing
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    Post  Big_Gazza Sat Aug 08, 2015 5:05 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:
    Still haven't seen the sign of Divine Obama Shale Oil yet Laughing Laughing I though Divine Obama Shale was advertised as a Divine Weapon which can topple Russian position in oil industry Laughing Laughing

    When nations start large-scale production of hydrocarbons from shale, that is an admission that they have run out of productive oil & gas reservoirs and must now start rummagging thought the rubbish bin looking to drain a few mouthfuls from the empty bottles.... Nations with productive oil & gas reservoirs do not need to bother with short-term, low-productivity tight formations.

    Shale is the last desperate refuge for a nation that has depleted its reserves and has nothing worthwhile left.
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    Post  auslander Sat Aug 08, 2015 6:29 pm

    In the end EU will expect Mother Russia to save the poor starving and freezing orcs. Sorry, after all I've seen and heard my well of sympathy for the lot of them is dry, let them go jump and chant at the polish border barricades and they can eat their eu dreams and freeze while looking at the dream of prosperity that will be forever just beyond their grasp. Karma is a b///h, ain't it.
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    Post  whir Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:00 pm

    auslander wrote:In the end EU will expect Mother Russia to save the poor starving and freezing orcs. Sorry, after all I've seen and heard my well of sympathy for the lot of them is dry, let them go jump and chant at the polish border barricades and they can eat their eu dreams and freeze while looking at the dream of prosperity that will be forever just beyond their grasp. Karma is a b///h, ain't it.
    But the sad reality is that the old, the poor and the sick are the ones that are going to die from cold while those jumping energetically are going to spend the winter with more clothes on, a few less showers and some chilblains.
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    Post  auslander Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:42 pm

    whir wrote:
    auslander wrote:In the end EU will expect Mother Russia to save the poor starving and freezing orcs. Sorry, after all I've seen and heard my well of sympathy for the lot of them is dry, let them go jump and chant at the polish border barricades and they can eat their eu dreams and freeze while looking at the dream of prosperity that will be forever just beyond their grasp. Karma is a b///h, ain't it.
    But the sad reality is that the old, the poor and the sick are the ones that are going to die from cold while those jumping energetically are going to spend the winter with more clothes on, a few less showers and some chilblains.

    I think you will be surprised as to who survives this coming winter, the old and poor are way tougher than the current generation of jumpers. The severely ill will not survive the winter anyway, there are no medicines and precious few doctors and nurses left. This statement does not make their fate any less tragic, it is simply a comment on how far ukeland has fallen in less than two years. The real tragedy is ukeland has yet to hit the bottom of the abyss, although the fact that they will hit bottom is without doubt.
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    Post  whir Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:05 pm

    auslander wrote:I think you will be surprised as to who survives this coming winter, the old and poor are way tougher than the current generation of jumpers. The severely ill will not survive the winter anyway, there are no medicines and precious few doctors and nurses left. This statement does not make their fate any less tragic, it is simply a comment on how far ukeland has fallen in less than two years. The real tragedy is ukeland has yet to hit the bottom of the abyss, although the fact that they will hit bottom is without doubt.
    I've no doubt that people can endure a lot but does not make it less tragic.
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    Post  auslander Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:44 pm

    whir wrote:
    auslander wrote:I think you will be surprised as to who survives this coming winter, the old and poor are way tougher than the current generation of jumpers. The severely ill will not survive the winter anyway, there are no medicines and precious few doctors and nurses left. This statement does not make their fate any less tragic, it is simply a comment on how far ukeland has fallen in less than two years. The real tragedy is ukeland has yet to hit the bottom of the abyss, although the fact that they will hit bottom is without doubt.

    I've no doubt that people can endure a lot but does not make it less tragic.

    I said nothing about the coming events not being tragic, but life itself for many is tragic and we can do nothing to assuage the tragedy. Never forget there is a war going on up north from us and every war brings tragedy and heartbreak the likes of which those who have not personally witnessed it can fathom. We can not, we WILL not, weep for every tragedy we witness or we hear of, the time for weeping is when we lay flowers on the graves of our comrades, our women, our children, when the war is over and we have victory, however bitter that victory may be. It is then that our women weep. Until then we do what we have to do, what our duty calls us to do.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:53 pm

    whir wrote:
    auslander wrote:I think you will be surprised as to who survives this coming winter, the old and poor are way tougher than the current generation of jumpers. The severely ill will not survive the winter anyway, there are no medicines and precious few doctors and nurses left. This statement does not make their fate any less tragic, it is simply a comment on how far ukeland has fallen in less than two years. The real tragedy is ukeland has yet to hit the bottom of the abyss, although the fact that they will hit bottom is without doubt.
    I've no doubt that people can endure a lot but does not make it less tragic.

    Cry me a river....

    Those "tragic innocent" degenerates have no issues with children getting slaughtered and crippled in the name of their EU lifestyle.
    Just yesterday three boys got mutilated by ukrop shell they found. Khepesh posted news a while back.    

    So f*ck all of them. I just hope that cannibalism phase of problem solving that Ukrops are famous for comes as soon as possible.

    Again, of course, it will be someone else's fault as usual...

    Can't wait, popcorn is already stockpiled.


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    Post  Regular Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:30 pm

    People will manage to survive it, but I really doubt about the government.
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    Post  JohninMK Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:47 pm

    Meanwhile back in Poroland

    The Vienna-based companies owned by Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko and their affiliated firms around the world earn him millions of euros, none of which finds its way into the state coffers, a Russian internet portal reported.

    A Ukrainian blogger looking into publically disclosed financial documents about President Petro Poroshenko's Roshen candy factory in the city of Lipetsk Russia has calculated that the president's company paid nearly 100 million rubles (the equivalent to about $1.75 million US today ) in taxes into the Russian budget in 2014.

    In August President Poroshenko signed a law obliging state servants to declare their property and income.

    Andrei Portnov, who heads the Institute of Legal Reforms in Moscow, started his own investigation and found out that two Austrian companies, J B Park GMbH and Bogdan Holding GmbH, have one director, one address and, via a network of offshore firms, control the bulk of the confectionery, auto and agricultural assets owned by the Ukrainian president. Portnov also found out that Poroshenko’s Austrian-based companies operate a web of smaller firms registered in Britain, Panama, Cyprus and other countries and earning millions of euros, none of which Poroshenko pays as a tax. Portnov believes that Petro Poroshenko is now facing a private international probe into his financial dealings in offshore zones, tax evasion, legalization of shady earnings and unconstitutional power sharing plotted on EU territory.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/russia/20150808/1025527097.html#ixzz3iFqvkdeO
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    Post  franco Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:54 pm

    The mobilization results in Ukraine;
    https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://nv.ua/publications/tjazhelo-idet-nv-provelo-issledovanie-o-hode-mobilizatsii-v-strane-60828.html&usg=ALkJrhjRnHyuJgTk-JBVnL6p7-IyzY5VoQ
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    Post  JohninMK Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:56 pm

    The draft rolls on

    Young men in the Kiev-controlled areas of Donbass are being forced to join the Ukrainian armed forces, the deputy military chief of staff of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People ’s Republic said on Friday.

    Ukraine will likely to start the seventh wave of mobilization, said Stepan Poltorak, the country’s Defense Minister, according to Ukrainian weekly Korrespondent. “In the village of Druzhkivka military recruiters are going after conscription-age young men at local stores, street markets and on public transport,” Donetsk News Agency quoted Eduard Basurin as saying on Friday. Basurin also said that Ukrainian law enforcers were posting photos of draft dodgers on billboards.

    Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko had earlier allowed enlisted soldiers who were being discharged from the armed forces to continue their service.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150808/1025524783.html#ixzz3iFtJMQam
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    Post  Flagship Victory Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:58 pm

    JohninMK wrote:The draft rolls on

    Young men in the Kiev-controlled areas of Donbass are being forced to join the Ukrainian armed forces, the deputy military chief of staff of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People ’s Republic said on Friday.

    Ukraine will likely to start the seventh wave of mobilization, said Stepan Poltorak, the country’s Defense Minister, according to Ukrainian weekly Korrespondent. “In the village of Druzhkivka military recruiters are going after conscription-age young men at local stores, street markets and on public transport,” Donetsk News Agency quoted Eduard Basurin as saying on Friday. Basurin also said that Ukrainian law enforcers were posting photos of draft dodgers on billboards.

    Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko had earlier allowed enlisted soldiers who were being discharged from the armed forces to continue their service.


    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20150808/1025524783.html#ixzz3iFtJMQam

    This means men from Slavyansk and men from Donetsk will kill each other? In that case my money is on Donetsk because of bigger population. Let them come and die in Donetsk attack
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    Post  JohninMK Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:12 pm

    On the one hand Kiev says we are not buying coal from Donbas, but on the other ...................

    MOSCOW, August 7. /TASS/. The coalmining enterprises of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) supplied to the Ukrainian companies more than 435,000 tons of coal in July, the press service of DPR Transport Ministry said on Friday. "In July, 6,216 wagons of coal were delivered to Ukraine’s territory in July. Considering the fact that one wagon can carry about 70 tons, last month the Ukrainian enterprises received from the DPR more than 435,000 tons of the "black gold," the Donetsk news agency quotes the ministry’s spokesman as saying.

    The DPR Transport Ministry earlier said that in March and April the coalmining enterprises of the self-proclaimed republic had delivered to Ukraine about 387,000 tons of coal. According to it, a significant growth in supplies is connected with a relative truce in the Donbas region.
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    Post  Flagship Victory Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:40 pm

    JohninMK wrote:On the one hand Kiev says we are not buying coal from Donbas, but on the other ...................

    MOSCOW, August 7. /TASS/. The coalmining enterprises of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) supplied to the Ukrainian companies more than 435,000 tons of coal in July, the press service of DPR Transport Ministry said on Friday. "In July, 6,216 wagons of coal were delivered to Ukraine’s territory in July. Considering the fact that one wagon can carry about 70 tons, last month the Ukrainian enterprises received from the DPR more than 435,000 tons of the "black gold," the Donetsk news agency quotes the ministry’s spokesman as saying.

    The DPR Transport Ministry earlier said that in March and April the coalmining enterprises of the self-proclaimed republic had delivered to Ukraine about 387,000 tons of coal. According to it, a significant growth in supplies is connected with a relative truce in the Donbas region.

    For free?
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    Post  JohninMK Sat Aug 08, 2015 11:22 pm

    Flagship Victory wrote:
    JohninMK wrote:On the one hand Kiev says we are not buying coal from Donbas, but on the other ...................

    MOSCOW, August 7. /TASS/. The coalmining enterprises of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic (DPR) supplied to the Ukrainian companies more than 435,000 tons of coal in July, the press service of DPR Transport Ministry said on Friday. "In July, 6,216 wagons of coal were delivered to Ukraine’s territory in July. Considering the fact that one wagon can carry about 70 tons, last month the Ukrainian enterprises received from the DPR more than 435,000 tons of the "black gold," the Donetsk news agency quotes the ministry’s spokesman as saying.

    The DPR Transport Ministry earlier said that in March and April the coalmining enterprises of the self-proclaimed republic had delivered to Ukraine about 387,000 tons of coal. According to it, a significant growth in supplies is connected with a relative truce in the Donbas region.

    For free?
    Doubt it, I think we can be sure that various 'commission' payments were made as well. It could be part of a big energy trading package between Kiev/Moscow. You can bet that Russia is involved in the money loop somewhere, if only its banks.

    Not sure why they announced it publicly. Two reasons come to mind, creating ill will and disruption as those in the West not aware of this gravy train try and get in on it; showing both sides that there is some potential leverage here and demonstrating yet again that they are trying to do the right thing.

    As I have said before, the last point I made is not aimed at the US/EU but at the rest of the world, this is part of the strategic war being fought with Russia showing that it and its allies try to be reasonable but Kiev and its backers won't listen. Perhaps the real target for this PR is Russian diplomats round the world.
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    Post  PapaDragon Sat Aug 08, 2015 11:55 pm

    Neutrality wrote:
    PapaDragon wrote:
    Good, f*ck 'em...

    ''Ukraine Faces Humanitarian Catastrophe in Winter – Ex-European Commissioner''

    ''The Ukrainian economy is showing no signs of a rebound and the forthcoming winter may bring about a humanitarian catastrophe in a country where public disillusionment with the government is growing every day, German media wrote on Friday....''


    http://sputniknews.com/news/20150808/1025527803.html

    To sum it all up in one picture:

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    That picture should have been our new forum banner!!! russia

    What a missed opportunity... cry

    Is it too late for another submission? Maybe we could use it during winter, just to shake things up a bit. lol1
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    Post  PapaDragon Sun Aug 09, 2015 12:06 am


    http://twower.livejournal.com/1745900.html

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    Post  Flagship Victory Sun Aug 09, 2015 12:07 am

    Only 1 Maidan soldier KIA today. Not good enough, people Twisted Evil Tomorrow I want to hear at least 3 Maidan soldiers KIA today. attack

    So basically now it's Donetsk people versus Mariupol people? Shocked
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    Post  Ghoster Sun Aug 09, 2015 12:24 am

    IR video of DNR forces trying Shooting down a possible Ukraine drone over center Donetsk 1 hour ago

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