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    Post  ALAMO Sat Sep 11, 2021 7:03 pm

    Still, he was an active advocate of creating a gold standard African dinar currency, and pushing to stop trading natural resources for empty bills.
    That is outrageous, in a second idea he could dispute the policy of the central bank of France, holding the reserves of half Africa on its own accounts.

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    Post  Mir Sat Sep 11, 2021 7:22 pm

    Arrow wrote:

    Libya was too small for its departure from the dollar to matter.  Only when most countries, including major economic powers, deviate from the dollar to a large extent, the US will feel it.  They will not be in danger for a long time.

    I quote from Counterpunch >>

    "Gaddafi’s crime in the eyes of the West was not that he was an authoritarian dictator – how could it be when their closet ally in the region is Saudi Arabia? His crime in their eyes, it was revealed in a tranche of classified Clinton emails, released by Wikileaks in January of this year, was his intention of establishing a gold-backed currency to compete with the euro and the dollar as an international reserve currency in Africa. In this regard the then French president, Nicolas Sarkozy, and then US secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, were key actors in pushing for NATO intervention.

    The classified emails prove beyond any doubt that what took place in Libya was a monstrous crime for which those responsible have yet to be held accountable.

    [It] is Clinton who was filmed clapping her hands and laughing at the news of Muammar Gaddafi’s murder in 2011. It is Clinton who pressed for the military intervention that ended in Libya’s destruction. And it is Hillary Clinton who has the gall to present herself as a moral giant in comparison to her rival for the US presidency."

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    Post  Arrow Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:08 pm

    So France wants to continue robbing its former colonies. This yet another "civilized" country provoked the war by supporting terrorism, which ended up killing the Libyan leader and utterly wiping out the country. I know that Gaddafi is no longer comfortable for France and the USA.
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    Post  d_taddei2 Sun Sep 12, 2021 4:37 am

    Syria was still operating mig-25RB at the start of the war, there was an article talking about how a mig-25 bombed targets. I'd imagine that they soon retired them due to cost and having other aircraft that could bomb targets but far cheaper.

    In regards to upgrading mig-25 I don't see the need in its current form they are still capable at what its designed to do. Only option that could have been considered was mig-31. I think that maybe Algeria is waiting for Russia to design and produce replacement of mig-31 and just keep the mig-25 in service until then. Or maybe we will see them purchase mig-31 once mig-25 start to fail or cause parts issues.

    A good link of the mig-25 and talks about the peleng automatic bombing system.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/weaponsandwarfare.com/2020/06/06/the-incredible-mig-25/amp/
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    Post  Russian_Patriot_ Mon Sep 20, 2021 11:06 pm

    Drop of a KAB-1500 guided aerial bomb from a Su-30MKI(A) fighter of Algerian Air Force
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    Post  medo Fri Nov 05, 2021 7:42 am

    https://twitter.com/TRTWorldNow/status/1455987109358100483

    Algeria blames Morocco for a bomb attack that killed three Algerian truck drivers on the border between Western Sahara and Mauritania

    Algeria blames Morocco for attack and is now sending army to the border with Morocco.
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    Post  PapaDragon Fri Nov 05, 2021 10:28 am


    Algeria and Marocco have beef with each other? Suspect

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    Post  medo Fri Nov 05, 2021 4:03 pm

    PapaDragon wrote:
    Algeria and Marocco have beef with each other? Suspect


    Algeria is another main supplier of gas to EU. Any conflict could cut Algerian supply, they already stop delivering gas through Morocco to Spain. Cuting supplies from Russia and Algeria is a big headache for EU.
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    Post  ALAMO Fri Nov 05, 2021 4:13 pm

    The pipe from Algeria is a quite small one, it hardly adds to the European balance.
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    Post  medo Fri Nov 05, 2021 4:18 pm

    Southern EU is quite depend on Algerian gas.
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    Post  ALAMO Fri Nov 05, 2021 4:25 pm

    I have just checked.
    Quite interesting.
    We are talking GME pipeline that goes via Marocco, and that pipe delivered 3.67 bcm in 2020.
    Algeria has other connections to the EU, including another pipe to Spain - Medgaz.
    Whole gas delivery to Spain was 9.06 bcm.
    There is a third pipe, heading Italy - Transmed, and 11.5 bcm delivered in 2020.
    add an LNG terminal at Skikda - 15 bcm in 2020, and we have a whole picture of Algerian gas export and it's potential.
    They can bypass the Marocco easily.
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    Post  Isos Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:08 pm

    From last february. Idk if it was shared. By now they should have been delivered.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:46 am

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    Post  Mig-31BM2 Super Irbis-E Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:51 pm

    So far no TOR bought. Why not?
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    Post  d_taddei2 Mon Jul 04, 2022 6:54 am

    A short article on Algeria's mig-25.


    https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/fastest-jets-guard-african-country-algeria-mig25-foxbats

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    Post  d_taddei2 Wed Jul 06, 2022 9:26 pm

    An article on the BMPT-62 armed with four kornet and 30mm cannon and a AGS-30.

    Although this seems to be a cheap upgrade. I still think it would have been better with a 57mm cannon. So it seems this is a similar concept to Belarusian 2T stalker a fire support and recce vehicle. Although the Belarusian concept was armed with 30mm cannon, 7.62mm machine gun, Shturm (AT-6), and SA-18.

    This a pretty tough vehicle.

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    https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_july_2022_global_security_army_industry/new_bmpt-62_fire_support_tracked_armored_vehicle_unveiled_by_algerian_army.html

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    Post  d_taddei2 Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:55 am

    It kinda seems like Algeria seems happy with the Berezhok turret equipped with 2A42 30mm autocannon, PKMT 7.62mm coaxial machine gun, AGS-30 grenade launcher, 4 launchers for ATGM "Kornet-M" and new day/night sights as found on the BMD-4.

    They have it on there BMP1 & 2. And kornet has been put on BTR-80, BTR-60 (gun removed serves as ATGW platform) , BRDM-2 (replacing Some Konkurs), Panhard AML (locally fitted with Kornet ATGMs, an automated turret carrying a 14.5mm KPV as well as a coaxial PKT, reinforced armor and night vision cameras)

    Algeria still uses T-55AMV and heavy upgraded T-55AM which has the following upgrades:
    Volna" fire control system, 9K116-1 "Bastion" ATGM system with new 1K13 BOM guidance device/sight, improved "Tsiklon-M1" gun stabilization system and TShSM-32PV sights, V-55U engine,[135] improved suspension and RMSh tracks, increased armour, anti-mine, anti-napalm and improved anti-radiation protection and new R-173/173P radio set. Visual differences include a laser range-finder in an armoured box fitted over the main armament, side skirts, 81 mm "Tucha" smoke grenade launchers, BDD turret brow armour and glacis appliqué.

    The AMV version added Kontakt-1 ERA to the above.

    Algeria has since added Stugna-P/Skif to their T-55AMV. With ongoing issues in Ukraine it's very likely that they will turn to Belarus and buy Shershen which is basically the same system but slightly better. I am actually surprised they didn't buy kornet for them. They still might when their Skif supplies run out. Makes sense to arm with kornet keeps everything unified. We might even see the same treatment that T-62 got, turret removed and replaced with Berezhok turret.

    It's seems rather than buy more BMPT terminators, they saw a cheaper alternative to keep T-62 chassis and just buy the Berezhok turret. Makes sense really cost effective and T-62 is fairly easy to maintain and if same goes for the T-55AMV if they decide to give it the same treatment both platforms would be suitable for the purpose.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:11 am

    Apologies if already mentioned.

    Algeria buys Chinese Self propelled 120mm mortar system.

    The new Chinese 120-mm mortar, manufactured by Chengdu Lingchuan Special Industry, is mounted on a Dongfeng Mengshi CSK131 with a 6 × 6 wheel formula. The machine is reportedly equipped with an inertial navigation system and a battlefield control system. The process of aiming by calculating the coordinates of the target, which will be hit by mortar fire, according to the developers, takes 30 seconds.

    Judging by the videos and images of ammunition fired by the mortar installation, these are newly corrected Chinese mortar mines that use a gas-dynamic adjustment to adjust their flight, rather than the more “traditional” principle of aerodynamic control.
    The NIMR Hafeet chassis is an armored patrol vehicle that can carry up to four people in its cab. equipped with a recoil reduction system. computerized aiming and navigation system.

    https://www.armyrecognition.com/defense_news_january_2022_global_security_army_industry/army_of_algeria_starts_to_receive_chinese_120mm_mortar_system_mounted_on_nimr_hafeet_vehicle.amp.html
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    Post  GarryB Thu Jul 07, 2022 2:58 pm

    Although the Belarusian concept was armed with 30mm cannon, 7.62mm machine gun, Shturm (AT-6), and SA-18.

    Would be interesting to see an upgraded model with a 57mm grenade launcher/gun and Pine in an anti armour and anti aircraft role...

    The 57mm weapon would have substantially better HE power and better armour penetration too and Pine is rather better than any MANPAD in terms of performance against a variety of targets that don't depend on radar or IR signature.

    Have heard of anti armour capability but I don't think it is up to Kornet level... perhaps a mix of Kornet-EM and Bulat missiles.... essentially the new Epocha turret...
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    Post  ALAMO Thu Jul 07, 2022 3:07 pm

    There is not a single reason for them to go 57mm in this case.
    Berezhok already outgunned and outmatches everything they can find in entire Africa I guess.
    Same for the T-55 mod - what they get is a functional T-62M level of the tank, which is at least equal to any tank there, second to Egyptian M1 only. And that can be discussed, as the Bastion will open the M1A1 as a nut outranging it by thousands of meters.

    And as for 2T, the whole project bases on recon rather than anything else, and it is a mistake to compare it with BMP in general. It shares perfectly nothing with it, as the platform for construction is Tunguska with modified engine and transmission to make it quiet. And it is quiet, just check some materials with it - you can talk with voice turned down standing next by.

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    Post  d_taddei2 Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:50 pm

    ALAMO wrote:There is not a single reason for them to go 57mm in this case.
    Berezhok already outgunned and outmatches everything they can find in entire Africa I guess.
    Same for the T-55 mod - what they get is a functional T-62M level of the tank, which is at least equal to any tank there, second to Egyptian M1 only. And that can be discussed, as the Bastion will open the M1A1 as a nut outranging it by thousands of meters.

    And as for 2T, the whole project bases on recon rather than anything else, and it is a mistake to compare it with BMP in general. It shares perfectly nothing with it, as the platform for construction is Tunguska with modified engine and transmission to make it quiet. And it is quiet, just check some materials with it - you can talk with voice turned down standing next by.

    Many articles have stated that 2T was T-72 engine and parts of the chassis. Never seen one article saying it's based on Tunguska chassis. The 2T wasn't just recce role, was also mentioned as to support tanks against infantry there was a video on YouTube were some guy mentioned this. And the end of the day it never went into production sadly as I thought it was quite a niche and capable vehicle.

    30mm might be ok for now. But 57mm would definitely future proof it against further improved armour any country gets.

    The T-55AMV is no longer in tank battalions in Algeria. But actually wintin a mechanised role as a fire support vehicle. But it's still capable especially with bastion and Skif ATGW systems it has.
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    Post  d_taddei2 Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:53 pm


    Seems Algeria is retiring it's MIG -25 and replacing with Su-30MKA


    https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/last-mig-25-squad-retires-algeria
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    Post  George1 Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:31 am

    Algeria received the first Chinese-built corvette of a new type

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    Post  d_taddei2 Wed Mar 13, 2024 12:39 am

    Just a thought Algeria could have asked Russia to convert their Mig-25 to carry Kinzhal giving these aircraft a new purpose and probably wouldn't cost much to convert and add an additional punch to their inventory.
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    Post  ALAMO Wed Mar 13, 2024 3:14 am

    Those are very old and worn.
    A Mach3.0 plane is a kind different from the tank, you know Very Happy
    Last one in Russia was removed from service... 30 years ago or something? scratch

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