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    Post  Fred333 on Mon Aug 10, 2015 3:57 pm

    Some good posters gone, but also (surprisingly) Asheren, that should make the Russia-related threads on there less exhausting to read. Seems like the "our truth" troll account was finally nuked too, good riddance.
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    Post  flamming_python on Mon Aug 10, 2015 10:13 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:NB: FP hasn't always been a model user, but he was banned mostly for being the exact sum of frustrations from that Forum. Ergo, if you push people at some point they'll push back. IRL most of the moderation crew are nobodies, that's why they act the way they act within the Forum.  

    That's putting it mildly, there's a reason why Flamming is part of my name you know Twisted Evil

    Here I act maturely, but mp.net was just full of bait and I usually wound up in the middle of things.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:24 am

    flamming_python wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:NB: FP hasn't always been a model user, but he was banned mostly for being the exact sum of frustrations from that Forum. Ergo, if you push people at some point they'll push back. IRL most of the moderation crew are nobodies, that's why they act the way they act within the Forum.  

    That's putting it mildly, there's a reason why Flamming is part of my name you know Twisted Evil

    Here I act maturely, but mp.net was just full of bait and I usually wound up in the middle of things.
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    Post  Godric on Tue Aug 11, 2015 7:33 pm

    GarryB wrote:The problem with letting people say what they think is that sometimes they say things you don't want to hear.

    Some people want to solve the worlds problems by setting idiots right one idiot at a time... I have plenty of patience, but it is not endless and I really don't miss posting on western oriented forums and repeating over and over that Russia is only an enemy because the western media is run by people who want to carve up its resources, so they don't like the current strong leaders and don't like to see it getting stronger...

    Look at the Russians the west perceives as heroes... Yeltsin and Gorbachev... Gorby was an unrepentant Commie who wanted to strengthen the Soviet Union rather than cause its break up, and Yeltsin thought the west was his powerful ally and signed everything they put in front of him no matter what it did to Russia.

    Third world country with nukes... that is what the west called Russia in the 1990s and that is what the West wished Russia to remain forever.

    I don't miss that crap.

    There are plenty of westerners here who don't hate or fear Russia and think their own countries policies have turned Russia away from the west, when it could have been a very powerful ally... I really don't think that is possible now... until democracy stops being a dirty word that is misused and abused.



    To be honest I was very jealous of the quality of the posters on MP.net and often wondered why they went there... was it the conflict? I mean if you loved the Su-35 would you go to Flanker.ru or would you go to F16.net... seems some people think other people agreeing with them is somehow bad and sharing information with people interested in the same things you are is no challenge... they prefer to fire facts at people who don't give a fuck and hate what you like... perhaps it is the challenge of conversion...

    The media is a massive problem in the West and it is not just against Russia the media does not like the establishment to be criticised or to be under threat take Scottish Independence for example (yes I do tend to harp on about this but it is extremely relevant) threatened the British establishment and it has not gone away as they know Scotland is a lost cause for the UK

    Gorbachev made to many mistakes like perestroika and he came over as being weak in the face of US/Nato aggression and Yeltsin was a f**king embarrassment with his drunken escapades and the mismanagement of Russia under his stewardship .... Putin saved Russia and Putin was willing to work with Western powers on the basis of being equals this did not sit well especially with America also growing worried with Putin building close co-operation with the EU

    a Independent Scotland will not be a Nato member as Nato will demand that Scotland continues to base the rUK's nuclear deterrent as a requirement to join Nato ... Scotland will flatly refuse ... Scotland is very much a pro socialist country and with having control of our media then their is a good chance of their being a balance in how our media reports stories

    btw I was banned twice from MP.net for being anti UK (you would never have guessed it lol) and for being pro Russian
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    Post  flamming_python on Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:39 pm

    Godric wrote:btw I was banned twice from MP.net for being anti UK (you would never have guessed it lol) and for being pro Russian

    You'd think that after closing their eyes on Irish-Americans helping the IRA, and also Hollywood films like Braveheart, The Patriot, Last of the Mohicans, etc... that the US would sooner side with the Scots against the Redcoats, but no Smile
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    Post  Cowboy's daughter on Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:56 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    Godric wrote:btw I was banned twice from MP.net for being anti UK (you would never have guessed it lol) and for being pro Russian

    You'd think that after closing their eyes on Irish-Americans helping the IRA, and also Hollywood films like Braveheart, The Patriot, Last of the Mohicans, etc... that the US would sooner side with the Scots against the Redcoats, but no Smile

    Well, imho, there are still a lot of rebels in the USA....not everyone hates Russia or Russians, not everyone sides with the "British Empire". Smile
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    Post  sepheronx on Tue Aug 11, 2015 11:57 pm

    It's crazy how different Americans can be, especially in viewpoints. Same in Canada. You got people of all types. Problem is, too diverse and no majority.
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    Post  GarryB on Wed Aug 12, 2015 6:48 am

    It's crazy how different Americans can be, especially in viewpoints. Same in Canada. You got people of all types. Problem is, too diverse and no majority.

    No. The problem is the diversity has no voice when the media is controlled by the few rich and powerful and they wont share power with anyone.
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    Post  Rodinazombie on Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:35 pm

    Thanks for that snippet johninmk, that it a nutshell is why i dont bother even reading that site anymore. I signed up and introduced myself there but since that day i havent looked at it once.

    My opinion of hollis did change a bit after my exchange with him right before the site shut down, he surprised me, but in general the 'mods' are clowns. Just look at the way dickgrar swings his microscopic cock around, he really is neanderthal.

    Mods here dont have as many challenges as over there obviously, but from what i see of them they dont appear to let personal bias cloud their judgement, as long as rules are followed then any view is allowed.
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    Post  Godric on Wed Aug 12, 2015 8:51 pm

    flamming_python wrote:
    Godric wrote:btw I was banned twice from MP.net for being anti UK (you would never have guessed it lol) and for being pro Russian

    You'd think that after closing their eyes on Irish-Americans helping the IRA, and also Hollywood films like Braveheart, The Patriot, Last of the Mohicans, etc... that the US would sooner side with the Scots against the Redcoats, but no Smile

    with America it is all about control ... they tried to control Scotland over the release of convicted Lockerbie bomber abdel baset al megrahi and O'bampot and Clinton were told to get lost ... the fact was he was convicted wrongly thanks to the evidence of a paid CIA informant ... the USA duped our judicial system and made a mockery of our judicial system in the eyes of the world ... so this was our government let the man die with his family he wasn't guilty ... Iran blew up the Pan Am 103 was revenge for the USA shooting down Iran Air 655
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    Post  Godric on Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:03 pm

    Cowboy's daughter wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:
    Godric wrote:btw I was banned twice from MP.net for being anti UK (you would never have guessed it lol) and for being pro Russian

    You'd think that after closing their eyes on Irish-Americans helping the IRA, and also Hollywood films like Braveheart, The Patriot, Last of the Mohicans, etc... that the US would sooner side with the Scots against the Redcoats, but no Smile

    Well, imho, there are still a lot of rebels in the USA....not everyone hates Russia or Russians, not everyone sides with the "British Empire". Smile

    The Empire was lost long ago C_D it is actually embarrassing subjugating entire continents, enslaving entire peoples .... Scotland has to take it's fair share of the blame for the brutality ... we played a active part in the empire ... all Empires are inherently evil

    people say the Confederate flag is racist and it's a slavers flag .... slavery lasted 4 years under that flag so what does that make the Stars and Stripes where slavery lasted 84 years under said flag and slavery lasted over a hundred years under the union flag
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Aug 13, 2015 2:22 am

    FFS can some one articulate the fallacy about that NATO flyer about "Russian Troops" expansion?

    It's simple, NATO like the UN HAS NO TROOPS on its OWN.
    NADA. LIke the WarPact it's an aggregate of Nations' militaries. Therefore talking about "Foreign" NATO troops is ridiculous. Please someone who can post it, just go on and say it, because the density of certain posters is making my head ring.

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    Post  Dforce on Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:02 am

    KoTeMoRe wrote:FFS can some one articulate the fallacy about that NATO flyer about "Russian Troops" expansion?

    It's simple, NATO like the UN HAS NO TROOPS on its OWN.
    NADA. LIke the WarPact it's an aggregate of Nations' militaries. Therefore talking about "Foreign" NATO troops is ridiculous. Please someone who can post it, just go on and say it, because the density of certain posters is making my head ring.


    Ask Al-Romo, he posts a lot over there.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:16 am

    Dforce wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:FFS can some one articulate the fallacy about that NATO flyer about "Russian Troops" expansion?

    It's simple, NATO like the UN HAS NO TROOPS on its OWN.
    NADA. LIke the WarPact it's an aggregate of Nations' militaries. Therefore talking about "Foreign" NATO troops is ridiculous. Please someone who can post it, just go on and say it, because the density of certain posters is making my head ring.


    Ask Al-Romo, he posts a lot over there.

    Most probably won't change a thing. The Mess is just a worse version of MP.net. Take Kalerab's post about the flyer. Speaking about CSTO troops, while the flyer was comparing Russia (a State) with a multinational organisation. It's actually a whole other dimension of sordid idiocy, from people who should know better.

    I guess finally Russian policies bore their fruit, expose the thick ideological strain a propaganda war puts on useful idiots.
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    Post  Fred333 on Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:58 am

    Dforce wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:FFS can some one articulate the fallacy about that NATO flyer about "Russian Troops" expansion?

    It's simple, NATO like the UN HAS NO TROOPS on its OWN.
    NADA. LIke the WarPact it's an aggregate of Nations' militaries. Therefore talking about "Foreign" NATO troops is ridiculous. Please someone who can post it, just go on and say it, because the density of certain posters is making my head ring.


    Ask Al-Romo, he posts a lot over there.

    He's banned now, anyone know what happened?
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    Post  Cowboy's daughter on Thu Aug 13, 2015 10:48 am

    Godric wrote:
    Cowboy's daughter wrote:
    flamming_python wrote:
    Godric wrote:btw I was banned twice from MP.net for being anti UK (you would never have guessed it lol) and for being pro Russian

    You'd think that after closing their eyes on Irish-Americans helping the IRA, and also Hollywood films like Braveheart, The Patriot, Last of the Mohicans, etc... that the US would sooner side with the Scots against the Redcoats, but no Smile

    Well, imho, there are still a lot of rebels in the USA....not everyone hates Russia or Russians, not everyone sides with the "British Empire". Smile

    The Empire was lost long ago C_D it is actually embarrassing subjugating entire continents, enslaving entire peoples .... Scotland has to take it's fair share of the blame for the brutality ... we played a active part in the empire ... all Empires are inherently evil

    people say the Confederate flag is racist and it's a slavers flag .... slavery lasted 4 years under that flag so what does that make the Stars and Stripes where slavery lasted 84 years under said flag and slavery lasted over a hundred years under the union flag

    Yep. but there are people who refuse to see facts.

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    Post  Book. on Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:16 am

    Fred333 wrote:
    Dforce wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:FFS can some one articulate the fallacy about that NATO flyer about "Russian Troops" expansion?

    It's simple, NATO like the UN HAS NO TROOPS on its OWN.
    NADA. LIke the WarPact it's an aggregate of Nations' militaries. Therefore talking about "Foreign" NATO troops is ridiculous. Please someone who can post it, just go on and say it, because the density of certain posters is making my head ring.


    Ask Al-Romo, he posts a lot over there.

    He's banned now, anyone know what happened?

    Al romo prob the dog
    DTA soon...

    Do no support the Nazi site!
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    Post  Guest on Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:27 am

    Book. wrote:
    Fred333 wrote:
    Dforce wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:FFS can some one articulate the fallacy about that NATO flyer about "Russian Troops" expansion?

    It's simple, NATO like the UN HAS NO TROOPS on its OWN.
    NADA. LIke the WarPact it's an aggregate of Nations' militaries. Therefore talking about "Foreign" NATO troops is ridiculous. Please someone who can post it, just go on and say it, because the density of certain posters is making my head ring.


    Ask Al-Romo, he posts a lot over there.

    He's banned now, anyone know what happened?

    Al romo prob the dog
    DTA soon...

    Do no support the Nazi site!
    Book, I have a question for you. How did the mods treat you? On the surface, it looked like you had everyone confused, even a few of the mods said they didn't understand you. Wink
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    Post  Dforce on Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:55 am

    Fred333 wrote:
    Dforce wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:FFS can some one articulate the fallacy about that NATO flyer about "Russian Troops" expansion?

    It's simple, NATO like the UN HAS NO TROOPS on its OWN.
    NADA. LIke the WarPact it's an aggregate of Nations' militaries. Therefore talking about "Foreign" NATO troops is ridiculous. Please someone who can post it, just go on and say it, because the density of certain posters is making my head ring.


    Ask Al-Romo, he posts a lot over there.

    He's banned now, anyone know what happened?

    Broke the rules, I guess?
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:16 am

    Dforce wrote:
    Fred333 wrote:
    Dforce wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:FFS can some one articulate the fallacy about that NATO flyer about "Russian Troops" expansion?

    It's simple, NATO like the UN HAS NO TROOPS on its OWN.
    NADA. LIke the WarPact it's an aggregate of Nations' militaries. Therefore talking about "Foreign" NATO troops is ridiculous. Please someone who can post it, just go on and say it, because the density of certain posters is making my head ring.


    Ask Al-Romo, he posts a lot over there.

    He's banned now, anyone know what happened?

    Broke the rules, I guess?

    That's the wrong guess actually. One should guess what rules did he break. Because as of now, in at least 3 different threads there are people supporting terrorists, posting propaganda and outright supporting military aggression towards a sovereign country without UN mandate.

    Oh and once again, that NATO "new" members flyer is showing how dense and of bad faith the anti-Russian crew is. I would have expected better from Jippo at least. But I guess that's what happens when there's no debate.
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    Post  Fred333 on Fri Aug 14, 2015 1:20 pm

    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Dforce wrote:
    Fred333 wrote:
    Dforce wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:FFS can some one articulate the fallacy about that NATO flyer about "Russian Troops" expansion?

    It's simple, NATO like the UN HAS NO TROOPS on its OWN.
    NADA. LIke the WarPact it's an aggregate of Nations' militaries. Therefore talking about "Foreign" NATO troops is ridiculous. Please someone who can post it, just go on and say it, because the density of certain posters is making my head ring.


    Ask Al-Romo, he posts a lot over there.

    He's banned now, anyone know what happened?

    Broke the rules, I guess?

    That's the wrong guess actually. One should guess what rules did he break. Because as of now, in at least 3 different threads there are people supporting terrorists, posting propaganda and outright supporting military aggression towards a sovereign country without UN mandate.

    Oh and once again, that NATO "new" members flyer is showing how dense and of bad faith the anti-Russian crew is. I would have expected better from Jippo at least. But I guess that's what happens when there's no debate.

    uff the syria thread has seen better days. it is now a stronghold of sunni 50-cent trollers (who probably don't even live in Syria), naive veteran US soldiers with an overdosis of black and white morality who cheer on TOW-ing Al-Qaeda to victory, Israeli internet psy-ops propaganda operatives flooding the thread with anti-Assad/Iran/Hezb articles. thank god people like LAworkerbee still have the guts to tell people to go fuck themselves every once in a while (although as a US BTDT he has more leeway to post like he does, others would be permabanned immediately when posting the exact same as he does)
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    Post  Prince Darling on Fri Aug 14, 2015 3:05 pm

    Fred333 wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:
    Dforce wrote:
    Fred333 wrote:
    Dforce wrote:
    KoTeMoRe wrote:FFS can some one articulate the fallacy about that NATO flyer about "Russian Troops" expansion?

    It's simple, NATO like the UN HAS NO TROOPS on its OWN.
    NADA. LIke the WarPact it's an aggregate of Nations' militaries. Therefore talking about "Foreign" NATO troops is ridiculous. Please someone who can post it, just go on and say it, because the density of certain posters is making my head ring.


    Ask Al-Romo, he posts a lot over there.

    He's banned now, anyone know what happened?

    Broke the rules, I guess?

    That's the wrong guess actually. One should guess what rules did he break. Because as of now, in at least 3 different threads there are people supporting terrorists, posting propaganda and outright supporting military aggression towards a sovereign country without UN mandate.

    Oh and once again, that NATO "new" members flyer is showing how dense and of bad faith the anti-Russian crew is. I would have expected better from Jippo at least. But I guess that's what happens when there's no debate.

    uff the syria thread has seen better days. it is now a stronghold of sunni 50-cent trollers (who probably don't even live in Syria), naive veteran US soldiers with an overdosis of black and white morality who cheer on TOW-ing Al-Qaeda to victory, Israeli internet psy-ops propaganda operatives flooding the thread with anti-Assad/Iran/Hezb articles. thank god people like LAworkerbee still have the guts to tell people to go fuck themselves every once in a while (although as a US BTDT he has more leeway to post like he does, others would be permabanned immediately when posting the exact same as he does)
    đ

    lol locules or whats his name and the other sunni freedom terrorists still at it, with the blind mods not seeing their posts somehow, as they are currently usefull fools for US foreign policy that will be discarded like a used condom after they no longer have value.

    but no doubt that everyone who tells these sunni internet jihadis is banned because we cannot break the rules of being curteous to ISIS and Al Qaeda fans.

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    Post  Fred333 on Fri Aug 14, 2015 3:38 pm

    American Eagle wrote:Why destroy ISIS if you can use them for your own advantage? This is more profitable and more FUN Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

    yes seeing hundreds of hapless Shia IA conscripts lined up and shot by IS because they were sold out by their Sunni officers who were only part of the army because of US insistence on inclusiveness (LOL at insisting on including those who would exclude from life everyone else) is a lot of "fun"
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    Post  Werewolf on Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:11 pm

    American Eagle wrote:Why destroy ISIS if you can use them for your own advantage? This is more profitable and more FUN Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

    You mean the factual decade long policy of Anglo-saxon's?
    Yes you muricans show your true colors as being barbarians.
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    Post  KoTeMoRe on Fri Aug 14, 2015 8:43 pm

    American Eagle wrote:Why destroy ISIS if you can use them for your own advantage? This is more profitable and more FUN Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

    Yeah 9/11 was obviously "extremely fun".

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