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Saudi Arabia - Russia arms deals
zg18- Posts : 888
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George1- Posts : 18493
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Russia and Saudi Arabia signed a preliminary agreement on the supply of arms
As Ivan Safronov writes in his article "Russia and Saudi Arabia Charge their Arms With Conversations," published in today's issue of Kommersant, on Monday Sergei Chemezov, Director General of Rostek State Corporation, said that Russia and Saudi Arabia had signed a preliminary agreement providing for the supply of arms and equipment At $ 3.5 billion Moscow has repeatedly tried to enter the arms market of Riyadh. Contract packages were discussed up to $ 20 billion, but unlike Washington, Russia has never reached the conclusion of solid contracts with the Saudi. According to Kommersant's information, the intentions of the Saudi leadership in Moscow are to be understood at the end of the visit of King Salman al-Saud - it can take place before the end of the year.
Mr. Chemezov told about the talks on the deliveries of Russian weapons to Saudi Arabia in an interview with Tass. "We concluded a preliminary agreement for $ 3.5 billion." However, the Saudis have set a condition that the contract will come into force if we transfer some of the technology to them and open production in the territory of the kingdom, "the head of the state corporation said." We think what can be shared . The simplest thing is to build a plant for the production of small arms (the Kalashnikov concern .- "Kommersant"). " Officials of Rostech, Rosoboronexport and the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSVTS) refrained from additional comments on Monday.
According to two top managers of the defense industry enterprises, even initialing such an impressive package of contracts is not a guarantee of concluding solid agreements. Over the past decade and a half, Riyadh has shown interest in a wide range of Russian military products (from Mi-35M helicopters, T-90 tanks and BMP-3 infantry armored vehicles to the Antey-2500 and S-400 Triumph anti-aircraft missile systems). In an interview with Kommersant, Chemezov said that the Saudis constantly asked about the Iskander-E operational and tactical complex, but specified that it was on the list of products banned for export: "We are not going to make an exception for them" (see. "Kommersant" from June 3, 2016). Several times the sides managed to agree on the range of weapons, but Riyadh was not in a hurry to sign legally binding documents, focusing on arms purchases from the United States.
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2723463.html
As Ivan Safronov writes in his article "Russia and Saudi Arabia Charge their Arms With Conversations," published in today's issue of Kommersant, on Monday Sergei Chemezov, Director General of Rostek State Corporation, said that Russia and Saudi Arabia had signed a preliminary agreement providing for the supply of arms and equipment At $ 3.5 billion Moscow has repeatedly tried to enter the arms market of Riyadh. Contract packages were discussed up to $ 20 billion, but unlike Washington, Russia has never reached the conclusion of solid contracts with the Saudi. According to Kommersant's information, the intentions of the Saudi leadership in Moscow are to be understood at the end of the visit of King Salman al-Saud - it can take place before the end of the year.
Mr. Chemezov told about the talks on the deliveries of Russian weapons to Saudi Arabia in an interview with Tass. "We concluded a preliminary agreement for $ 3.5 billion." However, the Saudis have set a condition that the contract will come into force if we transfer some of the technology to them and open production in the territory of the kingdom, "the head of the state corporation said." We think what can be shared . The simplest thing is to build a plant for the production of small arms (the Kalashnikov concern .- "Kommersant"). " Officials of Rostech, Rosoboronexport and the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSVTS) refrained from additional comments on Monday.
According to two top managers of the defense industry enterprises, even initialing such an impressive package of contracts is not a guarantee of concluding solid agreements. Over the past decade and a half, Riyadh has shown interest in a wide range of Russian military products (from Mi-35M helicopters, T-90 tanks and BMP-3 infantry armored vehicles to the Antey-2500 and S-400 Triumph anti-aircraft missile systems). In an interview with Kommersant, Chemezov said that the Saudis constantly asked about the Iskander-E operational and tactical complex, but specified that it was on the list of products banned for export: "We are not going to make an exception for them" (see. "Kommersant" from June 3, 2016). Several times the sides managed to agree on the range of weapons, but Riyadh was not in a hurry to sign legally binding documents, focusing on arms purchases from the United States.
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2723463.html
d_taddei2- Posts : 3012
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I personally don't like Saudi government and Russia shouldn't really be dealing with them they will only use the weapons to attack Yemen and Saudi back rebels in Syria all I can say is that I hope Russia got huge prices for the sale just like Usa get when they sell to gulf states
The Saudi Arabian Military Industries (SAMI) signed a Memorandum of Understanding with Russia's state company for exporting military products ROSOBORONEXPORT to manufacture high-grade military equipment in the kingdom.
The agreement, SAMI announced, includes the transfer of technology for the local production of the Kornet-EM anti-tank guided missile (ATGM) system, the TOS-1A advanced multiple rocket launcher and AGS-30 automatic grenade launchers with grenades.
“With the guidance of His Royal Highness the Crown Prince, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Defense, the two parties signed these agreements, which are expected to play a pivotal role in the growth and development of the military and military systems industry in Saudi Arabia,” the company said in a statement sent to Al Arabiya English.
The memorandum of understanding focuses on localizing the manufacturing and sustainment of advance armament systems in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in line with the objectives of Vision 2030.
Furthermore, SAMI said in their statement, cooperation is being set to localize the manufacturing and sustainment of parts of the S-400 air defense system that the kingdom agreed to purchase on Thursday from Russia.
Local production as well will take place for the Kalashnikov AK-103 assault rifle and its ammunition.
Educational and training programs for Saudi citizens will also take place according ot the agreement, to ensure the sustainability and development of the military industries sector in Saudi Arabia.
“These agreements are expected to have tangible economic contributions and create hundreds of direct jobs. It will also transfer cutting edge technologies that will act as a catalyst for localizing 50 percent of the Kingdom's military spending as targeted by Vision 2030 which was launched by His Royal Highness the Crown Prince, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Defense,” the company said in their statement.
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/gulf/2017/10/05/Saudi-Arabian-Military-Industries-signs-agreement-to-manucafture-Russian-weapons-locally-.html
The Saudi Arabian Military Industries (SAMI) signed a Memorandum of Understanding with Russia's state company for exporting military products ROSOBORONEXPORT to manufacture high-grade military equipment in the kingdom.
The agreement, SAMI announced, includes the transfer of technology for the local production of the Kornet-EM anti-tank guided missile (ATGM) system, the TOS-1A advanced multiple rocket launcher and AGS-30 automatic grenade launchers with grenades.
“With the guidance of His Royal Highness the Crown Prince, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Defense, the two parties signed these agreements, which are expected to play a pivotal role in the growth and development of the military and military systems industry in Saudi Arabia,” the company said in a statement sent to Al Arabiya English.
The memorandum of understanding focuses on localizing the manufacturing and sustainment of advance armament systems in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in line with the objectives of Vision 2030.
Furthermore, SAMI said in their statement, cooperation is being set to localize the manufacturing and sustainment of parts of the S-400 air defense system that the kingdom agreed to purchase on Thursday from Russia.
Local production as well will take place for the Kalashnikov AK-103 assault rifle and its ammunition.
Educational and training programs for Saudi citizens will also take place according ot the agreement, to ensure the sustainability and development of the military industries sector in Saudi Arabia.
“These agreements are expected to have tangible economic contributions and create hundreds of direct jobs. It will also transfer cutting edge technologies that will act as a catalyst for localizing 50 percent of the Kingdom's military spending as targeted by Vision 2030 which was launched by His Royal Highness the Crown Prince, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Defense,” the company said in their statement.
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/gulf/2017/10/05/Saudi-Arabian-Military-Industries-signs-agreement-to-manucafture-Russian-weapons-locally-.html
miketheterrible- Posts : 7383
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- Post n°54
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don't worry, Saudi wont buy S-400. US approved THAAD sale to Saudi Arabia day later. So Saudi wont buy it in end
flamming_python- Posts : 9516
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d_taddei2 wrote:I personally don't like Saudi government and Russia shouldn't really be dealing with them they will only use the weapons to attack Yemen and Saudi back rebels in Syria all I can say is that I hope Russia got huge prices for the sale just like Usa get when they sell to gulf states
The Saudi Arabian Military Industries (SAMI) signed a Memorandum of Understanding with Russia's state company for exporting military products ROSOBORONEXPORT to manufacture high-grade military equipment in the kingdom.
The agreement, SAMI announced, includes the transfer of technology for the local production of the Kornet-EM anti-tank guided missile (ATGM) system, the TOS-1A advanced multiple rocket launcher and AGS-30 automatic grenade launchers with grenades.
“With the guidance of His Royal Highness the Crown Prince, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Defense, the two parties signed these agreements, which are expected to play a pivotal role in the growth and development of the military and military systems industry in Saudi Arabia,” the company said in a statement sent to Al Arabiya English.
The memorandum of understanding focuses on localizing the manufacturing and sustainment of advance armament systems in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia in line with the objectives of Vision 2030.
Furthermore, SAMI said in their statement, cooperation is being set to localize the manufacturing and sustainment of parts of the S-400 air defense system that the kingdom agreed to purchase on Thursday from Russia.
Local production as well will take place for the Kalashnikov AK-103 assault rifle and its ammunition.
Educational and training programs for Saudi citizens will also take place according ot the agreement, to ensure the sustainability and development of the military industries sector in Saudi Arabia.
“These agreements are expected to have tangible economic contributions and create hundreds of direct jobs. It will also transfer cutting edge technologies that will act as a catalyst for localizing 50 percent of the Kingdom's military spending as targeted by Vision 2030 which was launched by His Royal Highness the Crown Prince, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Defense,” the company said in their statement.
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/gulf/2017/10/05/Saudi-Arabian-Military-Industries-signs-agreement-to-manucafture-Russian-weapons-locally-.html
Yeah I know, but we're not a rich enough country to refuse an offer to make some money due to some vague principles or concerns.
If the Saudis are goin to tear up the place they might as well be paying us royalties, and not US or Chinese small-arms producers.
PapaDragon- Posts : 13455
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Back in the old days it was "AK-47 for everyone!!!"
Today it's "S-400 for everyone!!!"
My, how times have changed...
Back in the old days it was "AK-47 for everyone!!!"
Today it's "S-400 for everyone!!!"
My, how times have changed...
Visc- Posts : 118
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Russia, Saudi Arabia sign air defense contracts
Russia and Saudi Arabia have reached agreements on the supplies of S-400 missile systems
MOSCOW, November 13. /TASS/. Russia and Saudi Arabia have signed contracts on air defense, Head of Russia’s Federal Service for Military and Technical Cooperation Dmitry Shugayev told Rossiya 24 on Monday.
"We have well-known contracts on air defense and other issues, which have been signed," Shugayev said, giving no details on the particular systems.
Earlier, the press service of the Federal Service for Military and Technical Cooperation said Russia and Saudi Arabia had reached agreements on the supplies of S-400 missile systems.
http://tass.com/defense/975329
Any explanation for this? This is worse than Turkey story, which fortunately did not materialize (yet).
I really hope this too is some kind of a game and it will stay at that! Because if child-killing terror state of KSA gets S-400 (or any other system capable of stopping missiles from Yemen) Russia and Putin are not friends of this world.
Russia and Saudi Arabia have reached agreements on the supplies of S-400 missile systems
MOSCOW, November 13. /TASS/. Russia and Saudi Arabia have signed contracts on air defense, Head of Russia’s Federal Service for Military and Technical Cooperation Dmitry Shugayev told Rossiya 24 on Monday.
"We have well-known contracts on air defense and other issues, which have been signed," Shugayev said, giving no details on the particular systems.
Earlier, the press service of the Federal Service for Military and Technical Cooperation said Russia and Saudi Arabia had reached agreements on the supplies of S-400 missile systems.
http://tass.com/defense/975329
Any explanation for this? This is worse than Turkey story, which fortunately did not materialize (yet).
I really hope this too is some kind of a game and it will stay at that! Because if child-killing terror state of KSA gets S-400 (or any other system capable of stopping missiles from Yemen) Russia and Putin are not friends of this world.
dino00- Posts : 1677
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Source: Russia Starts Delivering Solar Systems to Saudi Arabia(tos)
MOSCOW, April 10 - RIA News. Saudi Arabia received the first batch of Russian heavy flame-throwing systems "Solntsepek", a source in the military-industrial complex told RIA Novosti.
The contract for the supply of country systems was signed in 2017.
As noted by the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation, Russia and Saudi Arabia have agreed on the supply of S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems, as well as Cornet-EM, TOS-1A Solneptek anti-tank missiles, AGS-30 grenade launchers and Kalashnikov assault rifles AK-103.
Later, the signing of the relevant agreements was confirmed by the director of the service, Dmitry Shugaev
https://ria.ru/20190410/1552540264.html
Money buys everything, specially morality
MOSCOW, April 10 - RIA News. Saudi Arabia received the first batch of Russian heavy flame-throwing systems "Solntsepek", a source in the military-industrial complex told RIA Novosti.
The contract for the supply of country systems was signed in 2017.
As noted by the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation, Russia and Saudi Arabia have agreed on the supply of S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems, as well as Cornet-EM, TOS-1A Solneptek anti-tank missiles, AGS-30 grenade launchers and Kalashnikov assault rifles AK-103.
Later, the signing of the relevant agreements was confirmed by the director of the service, Dmitry Shugaev
https://ria.ru/20190410/1552540264.html
Money buys everything, specially morality
LMFS- Posts : 5142
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Well, if you respect sovereignty you have to admit countries doing things with it that may not be the best, and even then Russia is no guardian of World morality. I think it is better for all in the long term if Russia builds up good relations with Saudi Arabia and attract them to join the Euro-Asian block where a more levelled balance of forces will push towards pacific settlement of conflicts than simply turn their backs on them. They would loose out big in terms of oil market, big in terms of weapons sales and besides would push the country to stick with the US-Israeli side. Look how a different approach has worked with Turkey for instance. Russia demonstrated to have understanding for the country's needs and concerns and also to be reliable and is carving out a very important partnership which is a double win, for the own benefit and for NATO loss. Same going on with Saudi Arabia IMHO.dino00 wrote:Source: Russia Starts Delivering Solar Systems to Saudi Arabia(tos)
MOSCOW, April 10 - RIA News. Saudi Arabia received the first batch of Russian heavy flame-throwing systems "Solntsepek", a source in the military-industrial complex told RIA Novosti.
The contract for the supply of country systems was signed in 2017.
As noted by the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation, Russia and Saudi Arabia have agreed on the supply of S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems, as well as Cornet-EM, TOS-1A Solneptek anti-tank missiles, AGS-30 grenade launchers and Kalashnikov assault rifles AK-103.
Later, the signing of the relevant agreements was confirmed by the director of the service, Dmitry Shugaev
https://ria.ru/20190410/1552540264.html
Money buys everything, specially morality
miketheterrible- Posts : 7383
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That is if these systems will be used. So far they haven't used everything.
We will see. Maybe Russia isn't fond of Houthis
We will see. Maybe Russia isn't fond of Houthis
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Saudia Arabia arms
https://defence-blog.com/army/russian-heavy-flamethrower-spotted-in-saudi-arabia.html
Saudi arabia received Tos-1 systems from Russia.
Saudi arabia received Tos-1 systems from Russia.
George1- Posts : 18493
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Photo of TOS-1A delivered to S.Arabia
Russia and Saudi Arabia have agreed on the supply of S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems, as well as Kornet-EM, TOS-1A Solnepteks, AGS-30 grenade launchers and Kalashnikov AK-103 assault rifles.
Russia and Saudi Arabia have agreed on the supply of S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems, as well as Kornet-EM, TOS-1A Solnepteks, AGS-30 grenade launchers and Kalashnikov AK-103 assault rifles.
miketheterrible- Posts : 7383
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Gee, if they are purchasing all of that (which will be in the billions of USD) funny how quiet the US is, eh?
George1- Posts : 18493
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Only S-400 is too big deal from all thesemiketheterrible wrote:Gee, if they are purchasing all of that (which will be in the billions of USD) funny how quiet the US is, eh?
JohninMK- Posts : 15576
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The last post in this thread 5 1/2 years ago! Is this the future?
S p r i n t e r
@SprinterFamily
Saudi Arabian authorities have purchased an unspecified number of Pancir anti-aircraft missile and gun systems from Russia.
S p r i n t e r
@SprinterFamily
Saudi Arabian authorities have purchased an unspecified number of Pancir anti-aircraft missile and gun systems from Russia.
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GarryB- Posts : 40417
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The US called Russia a gas station with nukes, which shows how ignorant those particular politicians actually are, but Saudi Arabia really is a fuel station franchise, which in the past has bet on the west in terms of alliances and weapons and all their very very expensive systems they have purchased from the west have not done very well in real combat and more importantly if you listen to western politicians and officials they are talking about climate change all the time and part of the cry is that we need to stop using fossil fuels by 2030 or 2050....
This is a death sentence to a country like Saudi Arabia, and rising temperatures are not great for them either.
When Iran and Houthies attacked, western air defences were largely ineffective... despite billions invested.
BRICS is about mutual trade and COOPERATION... working together to help other countries improve their economies and solve their domestic and international problems through trade and cooperation.
They know if they stay in the western camp the US will use them till they are no longer useful and then drop them for a country that is more useful for them.
Like they have done with Pakistan... Pakistan was useful because it gave access to Afghanistan and the Soviets generally supported India, but now the cold war is over, Pakistan is a messed up state and India has a billion Indian men and women who need Iphones and blue jeans... and are so poor they will likely make the Iphones and blue jeans cheaper than China would... a market for their shit and a low cost workforce to make more useless shit.
If the CIA managed to get an idiot elected to leadership positions in India they would be in the process of ass raping them as we speak... India would leave BRICS and the hostility towards China would be increasing every day. And Pakistan would be cut from US Aid support... which is secret code for the US would stop donating money to Pakistan so Pakistan could buy US weapons.
This is good for Saudi Arabia and also very good for the region because hostility between Saudi Arabia and Iran was not healthy or sensible.
This is a death sentence to a country like Saudi Arabia, and rising temperatures are not great for them either.
When Iran and Houthies attacked, western air defences were largely ineffective... despite billions invested.
BRICS is about mutual trade and COOPERATION... working together to help other countries improve their economies and solve their domestic and international problems through trade and cooperation.
They know if they stay in the western camp the US will use them till they are no longer useful and then drop them for a country that is more useful for them.
Like they have done with Pakistan... Pakistan was useful because it gave access to Afghanistan and the Soviets generally supported India, but now the cold war is over, Pakistan is a messed up state and India has a billion Indian men and women who need Iphones and blue jeans... and are so poor they will likely make the Iphones and blue jeans cheaper than China would... a market for their shit and a low cost workforce to make more useless shit.
If the CIA managed to get an idiot elected to leadership positions in India they would be in the process of ass raping them as we speak... India would leave BRICS and the hostility towards China would be increasing every day. And Pakistan would be cut from US Aid support... which is secret code for the US would stop donating money to Pakistan so Pakistan could buy US weapons.
This is good for Saudi Arabia and also very good for the region because hostility between Saudi Arabia and Iran was not healthy or sensible.