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    Post  sepheronx on Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:40 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:^^^
    That the best you got? 8000+ Ukrainians are trapped in the cauldron, silly propaganda displays wont save their sorry rear-ends! lol1

    It is kinda sad how 1 tank is being used as propaganda when so many soldiers are trapped and just postponing their doom. I think it has already gotten to the people of Ukraine and only people like F-15 cannot are ones happy for such a situation. Sad and disgusting.
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    Post  Vann7 on Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:49 am

    sepheronx wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:^^^
    That the best you got? 8000+ Ukrainians are trapped in the cauldron, silly propaganda displays wont save their sorry rear-ends! lol1

    It is kinda sad how 1 tank is being used as propaganda when so many soldiers are trapped and just postponing their doom.  I think it has already gotten to the people of Ukraine and only people like F-15 cannot are ones happy for such a situation.  Sad and disgusting.

    F-15 is a classical american troll. That consider patriotic what their criminal government is doing in Ukraine.
    Thousands civilians womens and children murdered by his government sponsored war.. and all he cares is to
    try to find pictures of Russian tanks that could have been supplied by Russia. Rolling Eyes

    In more news..
    a very interesting Political-Historical report about why Poland support Ukraine Ultra nationalism.
    Must read.. it explain how Poland is playing a dangerous game that could byte their own ass.
    Like feeding vampires ,one day they will take your own blood.

    "Sworn Frenemies", or why Poland supports Ukrainian nationalism



    First of all, the notion as to where the eastern border of “united Ukraine” ought to be varies. Some said it should include the Kuban (Pavlo Shtepa), others saw it in the foothills of the Caucasus (Mykola Machnowski), others even extended Ukraine to the Caspian Sea (Stepan Rudnytsky). But nobody ever had any doubts where Ukraine’s western border ought to be: it was always the San river (Poland Territory).

    If these territories are not adjoined into Ukraine it will not be possible to build a “unified great power Ukraine”, and it is precisely Ukraine as a “great power” that is the main and ultimate objective of Ukrainian nationalists and nationalism.

    Nearly all the classics of Ukrainian nationalism see the western border Ukraine along the river San (in other words, on the territory of today’s Poland), and even though Dmytro Dontsov’s works call for the establishment of a Polish-Ukrainian alliance, even that alliance was to be temporary. As long as the nationalists were weak, Warsaw could have supported them, but only to the point that they would not fall, and not to the extent that they could stand on their own two feet. Warsaw’s own interest should mean keeping the Ukrainian nationalism under control and using it against Russia. Only when Ukrainian nationalism is made dependent on Poland it can bring Warsaw maximum strategic benefits.

    Poland wasn’t always able to maintain this sort of balance. Whenever the scales tipped in favor of Ukrainian nationalism due to major historical shifts, Ukrainian nationalists would begin to kill Poles on a mass scale, as happened on the Volhyn in 1943.


    All of this condemns Poland and Ukraine to a “rough friendship”. The Polish government, by supporting Ukrainian nationalism, is trying to walk on the edge of the razor without getting cut, in other words, to extract maximum benefits and incur no losses. Therefore Warsaw is eternally trying to balance its interests, and Polish diplomats are engaging in verbal acrobatics.

    For example, when visiting Kiev, Polish officials are shouting “Glory to Ukraine, glory to heroes!” together with contemporary OUN-UPA supporters, while back in Warsaw they promise that they will protect the memory of the Poles murdered on the Volhyn. OUN-UPA are called criminal organizations in Poland, but at the UN Poland votes against the resolution conemning the hero-worship of Nazism, including in Ukraine. Poland mourns its victims of the Second World War, but at the same time the Baltic states, which see annual parades of old SS-men, are repeating that Poland is a faithful ally, and the pro-Nazi sympathies in Vilnius, Riga, and Tallinn are not an obstacle.



    http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/02/normal-0-false-false-false-en-us-x-none_6.html

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Feb 07, 2015 3:05 am

    sepheronx wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:^^^
    That the best you got? 8000+ Ukrainians are trapped in the cauldron, silly propaganda displays wont save their sorry rear-ends! lol1

    It is kinda sad how 1 tank is being used as propaganda when so many soldiers are trapped and just postponing their doom.  I think it has already gotten to the people of Ukraine and only people like F-15 cannot are ones happy for such a situation.  Sad and disgusting.

    The 'cauldron' has the potential to liberate the whole of Ukrainian coastline, even Odessa, eventually connecting with Transnistria.
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    Post  Vann7 on Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:02 am



    omg.. this channel is so funny.. people need to see this..
    Updates with the Ukraine conflict.. and Lord of the Rings and the the Shadow of Ukraine. Laughing




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    Post  Werewolf on Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:17 am

    Vann7 wrote:

    omg.. this channel is so funny.. people need to see this..
    Updates with the Ukraine conflict..  and Lord of the Rings and the the Shadow of Ukraine.  Laughing





    Funny that guy in blue at 00:44 is wearing our ugly bundeswehr sports suite.
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    Post  Vann7 on Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:30 am

    Buahaha!!  Cameron under fire for not participating in the Moscow meetings to solve the
    conflict in Ukraine..  Britain former top NATO commander told that britain have become a
    "diplomatic irrelevance" in Europe.. in other words.. that no longer is an important nation in any world
    decision.  lol1  

    Russia ,france and Germany have taken the lead in Europe in solving the Ukraine crisis.. and the anglozionist
    major powers US and UK have become a joke.. an irrelevant player in solving anything in Europe. Smile

    Who wants to bet the US neoliberals have to be annoyed as hell or how bad and irrelevant they look by watching  Putin smiling ,who was supposed to be isolated with France and Germany in the kremling planning the future of Ukraine..  Smile

    Just count the time it will take for a new meeting planned by the Obama administration  "to solve the ukrainian conflict"with Germany and France and Ukraine and UK, but not inviting Russia. Wink

    IS there something the  Anglozionist try to protect is their world image as world leaders.. and in this meeting is Russia the one taking the role of leader with France and Germany. not good news at all .. for the anglozionist EGO
    and their plans to isolate Russia. Wink

    Now for the people who wants more evidence of how important is for americans pro Israel Neoliberals the world image of USA as world leader just take a look what they say about Russia and Putin in their talk shows about world politics..They were in shock how Russia stole the show in Syria replacing US world policy.
    and how Putin get more approval ratings in US than Obama. lol1



    Im sure that this new meeting for Ukraine if the ceasefire holds.. will provoke a heart attack..
    to the anglozionist about their lost world status leadership.. lol1
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    Post  higurashihougi on Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:40 pm

    Correct me if I am wrong, but the vehicles in the image, if they are real, are not tanks. They are Akasiya SPG.

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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:48 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:Correct me if I am wrong, but the vehicles in the image, if they are real, are not tanks. They are Akasiya SPG.

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    They are not tanks; they are SPGs of the 2S1, Gvozdika SPG family. But more importantly, Sevastopol' is not in Ukraine; it is in Russia.

    On an entirely different subject, from a military point of view, SPGs and in general artillery assets are a lot more useful for the Novorussians than tanks.


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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt on Sat Feb 07, 2015 12:52 pm

    The "Situation in the Ukraine/Crimea *Photos - Videos* ONLY" thread at the MP.ret hasn't been updated for 17 hours.

    I am sure you know what that means.
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    Post  higurashihougi on Sat Feb 07, 2015 1:07 pm

    I don't really remember/know whether this article has been posted on this threat yet.

    http://observer.com/2015/01/the-new-ukraine-is-run-by-rogues-sexpots-warlords-lunatics-and-oligarchs/

    But, well, yes, the title has already described much of the truth about the nature of Kyiv junta.

    The New Ukraine Is Run by Rogues, Sexpots, Warlords, Lunatics and Oligarchs
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    Post  mack8 on Sat Feb 07, 2015 2:16 pm

    The New Ukraine Is Run by Rogues, Sexpots, Warlords, Lunatics and Oligarchs
    Always thought that Yatsenyuk or whatever the name is looks like a mentally deranged paedophile. Just look at his mugshot.

    On another note, any recent maps showing what the situation is?
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    Post  kvs on Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:28 pm

    Morpheus Eberhardt wrote:The "Situation in the Ukraine/Crimea *Photos - Videos* ONLY" thread at the MP.ret hasn't been updated for 17 hours.

    I am sure you know what that means.


    The NATO butthurt forum is run by a collection censoring ban fags. Pathetic, weak losers who can't handle the truth.
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    Post  kvs on Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:33 pm

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    Post  kvs on Sat Feb 07, 2015 5:36 pm

    higurashihougi wrote:Correct me if I am wrong, but the vehicles in the image, if they are real, are not tanks. They are Akasiya SPG.

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    Sums up the "truth" spewed by the western media. Crimea is not part of the Donbas and all the crying by the Kiev regime is about
    "Russian army" in the Donbas.

    CNN has some howlers as part of its stream of brain dead propaganda for American audience of credulous sheep and their EU counterparts.
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    Post  medo on Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:20 pm

    http://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-armed-forces-set-call-female-citizens-aged-20-50-new-recruitment-cycle-304276

    Ukraine’s armed forces could call up female citizens of Ukraine aged between 20 and 50 to join the fight against pro-Russian separatists in the country’s eastern regions of Donetsk and Luhansk, Vladislav Seleznev, spokesperson for the armed forces’ high command told Ukrainian news agency Unian today.

    The former Soviet republic has been hard pressed for resources to combat the Russian-backed separatists in Donetsk and Luhansk since fighting erupted in the regions between the newly formed pro-EU government and pro-Russian groups a year ago.

    Ukrainian army is planing to mobilize woman for Novorussian front. It seems they don't have enough male reservists to mobilize for war and have to mobilize females. Ukrainian army will soon be over.
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    Post  ahmedfire on Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:39 pm

    Anyone could tell  me why most US foreign affairs employees are so arrogant and stupid ?

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:55 pm

    medo wrote:http://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-armed-forces-set-call-female-citizens-aged-20-50-new-recruitment-cycle-304276

    Ukraine’s armed forces could call up female citizens of Ukraine aged between 20 and 50 to join the fight against pro-Russian separatists in the country’s eastern regions of Donetsk and Luhansk, Vladislav Seleznev, spokesperson for the armed forces’ high command told Ukrainian news agency Unian today.

    The former Soviet republic has been hard pressed for resources to combat the Russian-backed separatists in Donetsk and Luhansk since fighting erupted in the regions between the newly formed pro-EU government and pro-Russian groups a year ago.

    Ukrainian army is planing to mobilize woman for Novorussian front. It seems they don't have enough male reservists to mobilize for war and have to mobilize females. Ukrainian army will soon be over.

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:56 pm

    82% of Crimeans happy to be under Russia, only 4% against
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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Feb 07, 2015 7:59 pm

    Images of Kiev forces using Red Cross Ambulances to transport troops:

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Feb 07, 2015 8:05 pm

    LOL...IMF is reluctant to fund Kiev's lost war lmao!

    IMF Said to Seek Limit to Ukraine Aid Share as War Escalates

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    Post  Big_Gazza on Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:16 pm

    Ukraine’s armed forces could call up female citizens of Ukraine aged between 20 and 50 to join the fight against pro-Russian separatists in the country’s eastern regions of Donetsk and Luhansk, Vladislav Seleznev, spokesperson for the armed forces’ high command told Ukrainian news agency Unian today.

    The former Soviet republic has been hard pressed for resources to combat the Russian-backed separatists in Donetsk and Luhansk since fighting erupted in the regions between the newly formed pro-EU government and pro-Russian groups a year ago.

    The criminals in the Ukie volunteer battalions will LOVE this... all those fresh inexperienced females being made available... I think the Rape-Line councillors in Kiev are going to be EXTREMELY busy in the coming months...
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    Post  F-15E on Sat Feb 07, 2015 9:54 pm

    russian terrorist shoots off his Kalashnikov,and then gets punched by his comrade
    hahahaha

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    Post  magnumcromagnon on Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:12 pm

    F-15 crashes, explodes, and fails hard:

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    Post  Airbornewolf on Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:16 pm

    F-15E wrote:russian terrorist shoots off his Kalashnikov,and then gets punched by his comrade
    hahahaha


    actually, ive hit several times subordinates in my own squad in active service too when they got out of line. nothing new, nothing special. its part of the infantry-life, simply an way to correct assholes that cant understand the seriousness of an pissed-off superiour or warnings of their more experienced guys in their groups.

    not that its an negative thing, but the moderating on this forum is very patient with people like you.
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    Post  par far on Sat Feb 07, 2015 10:36 pm

    F-15E wrote:russian terrorist shoots off his Kalashnikov,and then gets punched by his comrade
    hahahaha




    This happens in every army, no big deal. These soliders are not terriosts by the way. The real terriosts are Americans and the American terriosts are just used by the Rothschild and other jews to do their dirty work.

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