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    Post  magnumcromagnon Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:49 am

    President B.O., Mr. Hope and Change, our first post-racial president, brought freedom and democracy to Ukraine:

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    Afghan carpet weaving of Obama's benevolence:

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    Post  F-15E Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:19 pm

    The "rebels" of "novorosia" shelled Kurakhove with rockets.

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    Post  Vann7 Tue Feb 03, 2015 4:33 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:President B.O., Mr. Hope and Change, our first post-racial president, brought freedom and democracy to Ukraine:

    And your own pictures shows the contradictions of Ukraine ultra nationalist. ..
    In one picture they worship nazism.. and in the other they kiss the american flag.
    that is not nazism.. but a circus.  It will be like worshiping Israel in one hand and then waving a palestinian
    flag later.. complete non sense.  They all worship hitler.. For the only reason that his army caused the
    biggest destruction in Russia and killed 20% of its population.   Had hitler respected the peace treaty with Russia
    and China be the army who invaded them instead killing that many .. then Ukrainians instead will be waving chinese
    flags.. All the Nazi theme..as i told you before.. is simply to annoy Russia.. AmericanNGObanderas are only provoking Russia. All that hitler thing.. is made to provoke Russians hate..to provoke a major war..why they shell civilians in eastern ukraine. i really doubt anyone of those ignorant Ukrainians knows anything about Hitler other than what is told in western media and jewish made documentaries.  IF kiev was fighting against Anglozionist
    powers and promoting white race.. then i will call that nazism.. but is not.. Most people in power in Ukraine are jews.
    coincidence? not at all.

    History of wars is always written by the winners.. only by one side.. and the one that wins.. According to Jewish
    controlled Media and entertainment TV.. It was Hitler who started the war.  And attacked the jews.. But in reality
    who started WW1 and WW2 .  are exactly the same factions that now are provoking world war 3. That is
    AngloZionist Globalist powers.  US+UK+ Jews zionist Elite.  

    Hitler was provoked into a world war.. in the same way Russia is today being provoked into a world war.

    IF Russia today start a world war 3... against the same factions that Hitler began the war.. and attack USA ,UK, Poland, Baltic states  for the war happening in Ukraine.. because it was them who provoked the civil war there and the ones who lead the economic sanctions against Russia to bankrupt its economy (an act of war).. and its them who provide weapons to Kiev and it is them who turn blind eye to the genocide of civilians in eastern ukraine..  if Russia start world war 3.. and for some reason they lose it..   Later the same Anglozionist  mafia.. will rewrite history
    and talk about how "it was RUssia who invaded Europe.. and how Russia stole Crimea.. and how Russia started the war..  they will tell that story to future generations.. completely lying about the conflict and calling the victims ,the aggressors.  Of wait.. this is exactly happening RIGHT NOw!!!!  Russia is the aggressor in Ukraine and the west are the Good guys trying to save the world.  Rolling Eyes   In world war 2.. Anglozionist powers USA+UK+FRance + Jews Elite Used Poland to provoke Germany into a war.. today almost the same factions use Ukraine.. (with the exception of france)  

    History repeats again. and just like in world war 2.. the same Anglo ZIonist mafia are trying to provoke world war 3
    ,this time they are using Putin as the new Hitler.. and this is exactly how Hillary Clinton called him. and the worse of all is that people do not understand how they are being manipulated .

    here is the true History of why Hitler began world war 2.. an attacked Poland.


    IF you see incredible similarities in the events before World war 2 and what is happening in Ukraine and Russia.
    then ,not you are not crazy. the same evil forces are again trying to provoke a war.. and ziofascist Poland once again fueling the fire. Any coincidence or similarity to what is happening in eastern ukraine ,to what was happening eastern prussia and in poland against german minorities is  "just that.. a coincidence". Rolling Eyes


    And the evil forces fully understand a world war 3 will be far more brutal ,if happens.. because of the nuclear weapons. .and they still push for it.. the trick here is to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian citizen blood. and after than European blood.. So that US and UK could enter later only when Russia is weakened and almost defeated.

    Things are not just black and white.. world vs hitler.. there are much more than that. the west provoked world war 1 and world war 2.. and now provoking world war 3.. and is not a coincidence. The Anglozionist powers and the jewish elite are the real bad guys.. and the are now attacking Russia by proxy. Arming Terrorist in middle east to destroy Syria and arming Ultra Radicals Nationalist and criminals in Ukraine.

    World war one and two ,and many other wars will have NEVER happened ,had the world war more balanced and more Independent and Anglozionist Globalist and jewish elite didn't exist or had not such big empire ,controlling the world economies. And neither the problems in Ukraine and terrorism in middle east will exist today..  Crazy to think that the Evil in this world who provoke the world wars ,have not yet been defeated. And I fully appreciate that HiTLer tried but unfortunately he became blind by his success and power in europe and began to attack Russia.  Had Russian Orthodox empire existed and made an alliance with Germany probably the world will be today in peace.. and all the ANgloZionist Evil of this world powerless .


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    Post  Firebird Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:02 pm

    Reading some kind of love affair with Hitler is quite jawdropping on a Russian forum.

    27 MILLION Russians/Soviets were murdered. Most of them women and kids. Vast numbers of other Slavs, West Europeans, Jews and other groups, the same fate. Despite what some crackpots might claim.

    The Treaty of Versailles did mean instability was being fostered by certain American groups. There were imperialist ambitions/interests on various sides. But make no mistake, Hitler was a complete nutter from the 1920s. Him and his verminous mates were hell bent on world domination, AND the destruction of various other racial groups. And that was shown in what he did. There really can't be any argument about that.
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    Post  Firebird Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:15 pm

    Some of the anti-Jewish claims are rather ridiculous too.
    Yes there is a powerful Jewish bloc in business. But thats a result of the Anglo American class structures, NOT because Jews are "all powerful".

    In England, the landed Establishment is almost EXCLUSIVELY Christian. The only exceptions out of 100s are the Rothschild and a few others. There hasn't been a Jewish prime minister of England since the Victorian era! AND never before a single one. Jews founded a few merchant banks, because it was a risky, here today, gone tomorrow endeavour. The largest Anglo US banks are nearly all non-Jewish anyway. Citibank, Bank of America, Barclays, Natwest etc etc. Dozens of them. There aren't even that many Jews in the snr ranks of freemasonry. Hardly any of the BIGGEST media groups are Jewish, even tho a number of the smaller ones are.

    Yes some Jews are scumbags. I've actually known arguably most scummy, racist, sick Jew of the lot. But  MOST of the Anglo American upper class are scumbags. But most Jews do pretty normal jobs, and don't act very different to normal Christians/Atheists/whatever.

    The REAL elite ie people who don't bring themselves down to the level of daft "rich lists" in magazines, are almost entirely Christian in GB and the US. They've had their wealth often for 100s of yrs. Jews barely existed in Britain before the Victorian, or wartime migration. And Jews only tend to live in 4 or 5 regions of the USA. Bush, Blair, Windsor, Brown, Clinton, Thatcher, Reagan, Kennedy, Cameron etc not exactly rabbis in disguise this lot!

    Its ideal for all these conspiracy sites to say "its a Jewish conspiracy". Because the real perpetrators are left unnoticed.


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    Post  Vann7 Tue Feb 03, 2015 5:17 pm

    Firebird wrote:Reading some kind of love affair with Hitler is quite jawdropping on a Russian forum.

    27 MILLION Russians/Soviets were murdered. Most of them women and kids. Vast numbers of other Slavs, West Europeans, Jews and other groups, the same fate. Despite what some crackpots might claim.

    Is called Unintended Consequences of war..  Things that you don't expect to happen.. but that once you start a war,
    you cannot go back.. because once you invade a nation and kill thousands , you better win the war otherwise your nation/country will be retaliated and destroyed.

    the anglozionist powers are pushing for the extermination of 140 millions of Russians today.. and 90% with the world population with their De-population programs and world government /world police non sense..  
    Germany/HItler was provoked into a war..   this cannot be ignored  .

    Go an see again at min 4:00 in the previously posted video..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3V3D1aio_U

    How Poland , (similar to how kiev is doing in eastern ukraine) began massacres against German civilians minorities.
    Something they just like today kiev war crimes.. they denied.

     Once a majo war start. the outcome cannot be predicted..   Today if a world war 3 start..  Putin will be in a risk of having to kill much more than hitler did. . Because no only they will need to attack USA.. but also any strategic place where americans have a military base in the world. That is all NATO.  to make sure its military power can never again be threatening to them.

    In world war , unintended consequences happens and many innocent civilians die.. Had soviets surrender (glad they didn't ) ,probably will have been like France ,that was not destroyed. But Hitler only way to survive Germany the war with the west , at least he though was to have the oil fields of Russia.. to continue maintaining the war with the west ,why he don't bother to enter in moscow.

    Most of the people who died in Soviet union and concentratin camps in world war 2 ,died consequences of food..there was no people working in farms.. all were fighting, there was not enough food and they starved to death.

    Im not a hitler supporter.. neither a war supporter ,but i can understand why he did what he did in europe . and i will understand if Russia is forced one day to use nuclear weapons against NATO major powers that right now are attacking Russia economy and fuel the violence in Ukraine and the violence in Syria ,kidnapping their people around the world and fueling unrest in their own country through NGOs..  In fact is impressive how tolerant is Putin
    today by all the things anglozionist powers do against their country. Not many leaders can sit down and watch their people to be massacred day and night in the thousands and NATO countries  providing weapons for that violence to continue ,while at the same time blaming the victims of their attacks for the violence they provoke. Is quite admirable Putin patience with the west.. and still not sure if his policy can stop the aggression on their nation. time only can answer that.


    another interesting link..shows what was happening between Poland and Germany before world war 2 start.
    You will never see information like this in the western official mainstream propaganda.


    "Poland wants war with Germany and Germany will not be able to avoid it. even if she wants to.."...Polish Marshall RYdz Smigly.. Aug 6 1939...      [and officially world war 2 began -> sep 1 1939 ]

    http://www.wattpad.com/36665741-the-hidden-truth-truth-about-ww2

    If you read that you will see exactly the same Bullshit happening now in Ukraine.. Change the name of Ukraine for Poland and and Russia for germany and you will see a similar event.  A problem with territorial integrity , and Poland
    provoking Germany into a war ,by attacking/killing minority of Germans civilians in the occupied territories.. 80,000 germans minorities in concentrations camps before the war start. Poland was bombing german civilian minorities and committing war crimes and Anglozionist powers backing poland inconditionaly.  Basically the western Neoglobalist used Poland to provoke a war with Germany.. and this is exactly what they are again doing.. this time in Ukraine. using Ukraine to provoke a war with Russia.

    You all hear about German concentrations camps..after the war began ,but never hear about Polish concentration camps before the war started ,managed by polish people.. The fact is Poland did everything to provoke Germany into a major war.. and they did it because they had the full support of UK and USA and the Jewish banking elite. and Poland wanted to steal more german lands re after world war 1 ,and annexe their territories.  Hitler came to power to fight the Evil of this world ,the anglo zionist powers and their servants.. unfortunately..began to take more territory than the one originally was theirs .. perhaps in needs of resources to continue defending their nation.. But still it was clear ,that world war 2 ,did not happened by
    accident.. it was provoked by the west..and for sure their goal was to divide Germany completely and disband it.. because the west though it was a war that they will easily win.

    The same criminal mafia of US , UK and jews elite.. are now trying to provoke another world war and this time is against Russia..and they using Ukraine (and Syria) to provoke Russia for that.


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    Post  Big_Gazza Tue Feb 03, 2015 6:53 pm

    This is getting off-topic, but I feel the need to respond...

    While I don't buy into the "Jews Control The World",  there can be no doubt that their influence vastly outweighs their numbers, and that this influence is used for malign purpose.  How is it that AIPAC can exert such absurd control over the US polity?  They have literally seized control of the US government, have bought off the politicans and control them via the power of campaign contributions (and conduct scorched earth campaigns against any who rebel and attempt to publically speak the truth about their control).  They have promulgated a falsified and deeply racist version of history regarding the origin of Israel and the destruction of Palestine that is accepted as gospel truth by much of the Western worlds ruling elite, despite that fact that its central tenets are so obviously contradicted by readily available basic historical facts.

    They continue to persecute the Palestinian people and steal their resources and lands, slaughter any who resist, and they even deny them their very identity (eg by falsely claiming the Palestinians are nothing but itinerent labourers drawn to serve Jewish settlers who emigrated to "empty lands").  They use blockades and economic deprivation in an attempt to crush the Palestinians will to resist the dispossession and oppression, while the West looks away and does nothing (and many pro-Zionist mouth-pieces blame the Palestinian people for their plight).  If Russia of China were to behave like this to any of their ethnic minorities, the West would be morally indignant and express outrage in the strongest terms imaginable, yet Israel can manufacture fake "provocations" to justify attacks against their neighbours or to launch massive military assaults against captive civilian populations, and the "Moral West" says and does NOTHING.

    They continue to use the Nazi persecution of Jews in WW2 as impenetrable armor to deflect any and all criticism of their actions, and continue to use its memory to extract political concessions and special consideration from cowardly European politicians who lack the courage to challenge them.  They continue to invoke the Holocaust to silence their critics, even to the point of lobbying European politians to criminalise the activities of those who attempt to disentangle the historical facts from the post-war de-nazification propaganda following WW2.  Were 6 million Jews really murdered by the Nazis?  De-classified Soviet archives prove the total death toll amongst inmates in Auschwitz was 1.1M (not 4-5M) and of those, Jews were ~900K with the rest being gypsies, homosexuals, communists and assorted political enemies of the Nazis etc. Where are the other 5M?  No proper forensic studies have EVER been performed at the camps in Poland and access is strictly controlled to only those groups that accept the orthodoxy and who work to affirm the narrative.  Why is this?  In Srebrenica, every grave in a 100km radius has been dug up, the bodies removed, photographed, stored in racks and painstakingly identified by DNA, with the vast majority still held in storage (and without any apparent concern shown to offending Muslim burial practises). If this can be done there, why can we not excavate in the areas alleged to be mass graves in places like Treblinka so that the truth can be known with certainty?

    How is it that Jews are able to achieve these (and many other) forms of domination?  Why is it that so many non-Jewish people feel compelled to collaborate in maintaining this system of control?  Why can these matters not be discussed in a frank and open forum without the inevitable frenzied howls of "anti-semitsm" and "Nazi-apologist" being hurled at the speaker/writer in order to force them into silence?

    I've written nothing above that could/should be considered racist or defamatory, yet in almost any public forum I would most certainly attract flak for "anti-semitic views" or accused of "Holocaust revisionism".  Hopefully RMF will prove to be one of the few exceptions to this rule....
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    Post  Firebird Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:17 pm

    There ARE some Jews that are cunts, absolute cunts. Both oligarchs AND Westerners. But they're not cunts because they are Jews. Its because they are greedy, power obsessed twats deeply enshrined in various international power structures. But most of the people pulling the strings in Washington, Brussels and Ldon aren't actually Jews.

    Was Marx part of the Washington conspiracy? Or Trotsky? Ofcourse not, the only thing they had in common was that they were Jewish. Most Jews would like to hack Kolomoisky to pieces. Just like most Christians hated Hitler.

    And as for Hitler, he was a complete monster who wanted to kill ANYONE who wasn't a Nazi. He went after the social democracts, the Communists, the brownshirts, ANYONE.

    Even his imperialism was MASSIVELY different from any imperialism anywhere else in the World. His racial surpremacist ideology made it clear from before he got into power. He was an absolute maniac of monumental proportions. To say "oh the Jews caused WW2" is just garbage.

    Sometimes, this forum reads like the Flat Earth Society.

    What Russia is fighting is the AMERICAN Neo Con Establishment.
    Russia is actually trying to get along with Israel, whilst the Kenyan fag is actually falling out with Israel. Does that mean Putin is now in on the "Zionist conspiracy"? Ocourse not!
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    Post  Vann7 Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:49 pm


    To say "oh the Jews caused WW2" is just garbage.

    No is not.. Jewist elite created World war 1 and world war 2.

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    What you see there is a declaration of economic war against germany by the Zionist Jews around the world.
    On britisth newspapers.. they also published similar declarations in americans news papers.. calling for a boycott
    of german products..  This boycotts not only were limited to press.. but to terrorism.. Attacking german merchant
    ships ,deploying bombs.. to break germany economy .  What triggers Jews outrage was Germany moving away of the jewish banking industry.. and turning Germany into a full sovereign and independent nation.. with full control of their economy.. that jews loved to manipulate. The boycott on germany economy began years BEFORE world war 2. . Which other country today is under sanctions and its economy under attack by anglo zionist powers? oh wait.. thats Russia.



    HEADLINE FROM BRITISH NEWSPAPER (1933) “JUDEA DECLARES WAR ON GERMANY.” RIGHT: ZIONIST JABOTINSKY: "WE SHALL START WAR AGAINST GERMANY"


    The German people were bitterly resentful of not only the Zionist role in bringing about their defeat in World War I, but also over the brutal monetary reparations which had been imposed upon them by certain Zionist bankers who helped craft the brutal Treaty of Versailles after the war. Stripped of formerly German territory, and with the German economy in ruins, the people of Germany elected Adolf Hitler as their Chancellor in 1932. Hitler and the Nazi party soon seized control of the German media, banks, and universities away from the influential Zionists who had reigned supreme in those institutions.

    Almost immediately, Zionists all over the world began to agitate for action against Germany. Boycotts of German imports were imposed and calls for the UK and USA to take immediate action against Germany began to emanate from Zionist circles. On March 24, 1933, (6 years before the war began!) The Daily Express of England carried the bold headline; “Judea Declares War on Germany. Jews of All the World Unite in Action“ . (1) The front page story revealed that the Zionists had announced a concerted worldwide effort to isolate Germany and turn other nations against her. The following year, Zionist political leader Vladimir Jabotinksy wrote:



    "The fight against Germany has now been waged for months by every Jewish community, on every continent...We shall start a spiritual and material war of the world against Germany. Our Jewish interests call for the complete destruction of Germany"
    (2)

    A few years later, Lord Beaverbrook, a British newspaper magnate issued this warning about the Zionist influence over the British press. Beaverbrook warned:

    "There are 20,000 German Jews who have come here to England. They all work against an agreement with Germany. The Jews have got a big position in the press here. Their political influence is driving us into the direction of war."
    (3)

    In September of 1939, Germany and Poland went to war over disputed territory that was taken away from Germany by the Versailles Treaty of 1918. Under the phony pretext of protecting Poland, Great Britain and France immediately declared war on Germany (conveniently ignoring the fact that the Soviet Union had invaded Poland too). Germany pleaded with Britain and France (the Allies) to withdraw their war declarations but to no avail. The Allies continued their massive military buildup along Germany’s western frontiers. In the spring of 1940, the war in Western Europe began when Germany launched pre-emptive invasions of Norway, Holland, and Belgium, pinning the British and French forces on the beaches of Belgium. Beaverbrook’s prediction was realized.



    Jews attacks on Germany played an important role in sabotaging Germany economy ,before the war and the problems with poland was the last straw.. the attacks on germany minorities ,concentration camps of german minorities in their occupied zones..and the massacres against germans civilians women and children.... The attacks
    on germany began earlier than hitler was in power.


    it gets better read..



    HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF!
    EVIL EYES OF A FOREIGN BOGEYMAN STALK US FROM ACROSS THE WORLD... SAME OLD SCARE TACTICS.... DIFFERENT ENEMY


    In the United States, the Zionist Mafia again went to work on a US president. The names of the players had changed but the game was still the same. Baruch was still pulling presidential strings along with other Zionist “advisors” like Henry Morgenthau, Eugene Myer, and Harold Ickes. Myer, a business associate of Baruch, bought the Washington Post during this time. (Myer's grandson Donald Graham runs the Post today) For his part, Ickes, FDR's Secretary of the Interior, banned the sale of helium to Germany in 1934. This forced the Germans to use flammable hydrogen to operate their famous airships. The Hindenburg Airship disaster of 1937 was due in large part to Harold Ickes vindictive helium sanctions against Germany.

    It was Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s turn to deliver the US into another European war. Patriotic Americans such as famed aviator Charles Lindbergh saw this and tried to warn the American people that Zionist media influence was intending to drive us into another World War. Said Lindbergh:
    “I am not attacking the Jewish people. But I am saying that the leaders of both the British and the Jewish races, for reasons which are as understandable from their viewpoint as they are inadvisable from ours, for reasons which are not American, wish to involve us in the war. “
    (4)

    Because of strong public anti-war sentiment, FDR and his Zionist handlers had a very difficult time dragging the US into the European war. Then an “incident” occurred at Pearl Harbor in 1941. Japan and Germany were bound to a mutual defense agreement, which meant that war with Japan would automatically mean war with Germany. FDR embargoed Japan’s oil supply in the hopes of forcing Japan to attack Pearl Harbor. Overwhelming evidence from government documents clearly shows that FDR had advance knowledge of the Japanese attack and allowed it to happen so that he could drag the US into the war. (5)

    As was the case in World War I, US entry the war led to another crushing defeat of Germany. Hours before committing suicide on April 30, 1945, Adolf Hitler dictated his last will and political testament. In it he placed responsibility for World War II on the Zionist Mafia - or, as he called it - "International Jewry and its henchmen". It's certainly no surprise that Hitler would make such a claim. However, his final accusation of the Zionists does parallel the statements made by Jabotinsky, Lindbergh, Beaverbrook, Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain, Ambassador Joe Kennedy, and many others. In the final public communication of his life, Hitler wrote:

    "It is untrue that I or anyone else in Germany wanted war in 1939. It was wanted and provoked solely by international statesmen either of Jewish Origin or working for Jewish interests. Nor had I ever wished that after the appalling first World War, there would ever be a second against either England or America."
    (6)


    title : Zionism and World Wars ...
    https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t941885-3/

    Lets not forget neither that TODAY.. right now.. the Zionist JEWS are also provoking another world war 3..
    The entire Syria war is a creation of Israel.. and they wanted to bomb IRAN and get NATO to do it.. and
    Jews millionaires are funding Ukrainians radicals to bomb ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine.. Jews elite
    dream with a world dominated by their western banking industry and they control all NATO mainstream media and western financial institutions. George Soros a Jew is one of the snakes fueling the war in Ukraine and provoking
    Russia into a war.


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    Post  par far Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:03 pm

    The jews control US, UK and the EU, there is no denying it. During WW2, it was the jews who gave money to Hitler(Rothschild's and Paul Warsburg). The jews are trying provoke Russia but Putin has to be smart, don't let history repeat, jews in general evil, cunning and backstabbers.
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    Post  Firebird Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:32 pm

    I concur with Garry's statement from a week or so ago.
    Where he said that a Russian military forum, in English language, with hardly any Russians, is basically always going to attract crackpot writing, to lower the tone massively.

    Were some of you sexually abused by fucking rabbis, as kids? Rolling Eyes

    "Jews started ww2". Truly pathetic. Rolling Eyes
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    Post  Firebird Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:34 pm

    I love the way how some of you are able to comment about Britain, and Russia, and America... yet have never even visited these places. Let alone know anything about them..
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    Post  Vann7 Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:42 pm

    Firebird wrote:I concur with Garry's statement from a week or so ago.
    Where he said that a Russian military forum, in English language, with hardly any Russians, is basically always going to attract crackpot writing, to lower the tone massively.

    Were some of you sexually abused by fucking rabbis, as kids? Rolling Eyes

    "Jews started ww2". Truly pathetic. Rolling Eyes

    Because wars  DOES NOT BEGAN WITH THE GUN FIRE..  it began because hostilities against x or y nation.
    You were told how Japan attacked america in pearl harbor..  but you were never told of the economic embargo
    that USA created in Japan , completely sabotaging their economy for no reason.  Imagine you have a prosperous
    business a restaurant. and overnight people with guns camp in front of it.. to scare all your clients? then your family suffer ,because of no money? Americans attacked Japan first its economy ,an act of war.. and later claimed to be victims of pearl harbor.  that it was because of "their freedom" that Japan attacked USA.   Rolling Eyes     Today Russia is more than justified to launch a war against US and its major allies.. because of their criminal support for terrorist against their allies ,and their criminal war in Ukraine ,and their sabotage on their economy.   Wars does not begin with the gun fire.. but with hostile politics against another nation.   Provoking nations into war is a normal practice of the anglozionist powers and jewish elite.. Sabotaging a nation economy ,threatening the stability of a nation by financing and arming terrorist and shelling civilians women and children is an act of war.. even if the west are not doing it directly by by proxy.   Why the zionist jews are always the authors of major world conflict.. no idea why..
    but it is that way.. they perhaps have an radical and sick obsession with power and domination of others.


    alright.. no longer will comment on WW2.. now on topic..


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    Post  Walther von Oldenburg Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:28 pm

    Novorussians did not seal the encirclement of Debeltsevo on the Stalingrad anniversary. It would be such a fantastic propaganda victory. cry Surprised

    But Novorussian army looks great anyway. Wink




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    Post  TR1 Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:28 pm

    Firebird wrote:I love the way how some of you are able to comment about Britain, and Russia, and America... yet have never even visited these places. Let alone know anything about them..

    Summarizes my problem with many of the posters here.
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    Post  Hannibal Barca Tue Feb 03, 2015 9:38 pm

    Vann7 wrote:
    magnumcromagnon wrote:President B.O., Mr. Hope and Change, our first post-racial president, brought freedom and democracy to Ukraine:

    And your own pictures shows the contradictions of Ukraine ultra nationalist. ..
    In one picture they worship nazism.. and in the other they kiss the american flag.
    that is not nazism.. but a circus.  It will be like worshiping Israel in one hand and then waving a palestinian
    flag later.. complete non sense.  They all worship hitler.. For the only reason that his army caused the
    biggest destruction in Russia and killed 20% of its population.   Had hitler respected the peace treaty with Russia
    and China be the army who invaded them instead killing that many .. then Ukrainians instead will be waving chinese
    flags.. All the Nazi theme..as i told you before.. is simply to annoy Russia.. AmericanNGObanderas are only provoking Russia. All that hitler thing.. is made to provoke Russians hate..to provoke a major war..why they shell civilians in eastern ukraine. i really doubt anyone of those ignorant Ukrainians knows anything about Hitler other than what is told in western media and jewish made documentaries.  IF kiev was fighting against Anglozionist
    powers and promoting white race.. then i will call that nazism.. but is not.. Most people in power in Ukraine are jews.
    coincidence? not at all.

    History of wars is always written by the winners.. only by one side.. and the one that wins.. According to Jewish
    controlled Media and entertainment TV.. It was Hitler who started the war.  And attacked the jews.. But in reality
    who started WW1 and WW2 .  are exactly the same factions that now are provoking world war 3. That is
    AngloZionist Globalist powers.  US+UK+ Jews zionist Elite.  

    Hitler was provoked into a world war.. in the same way Russia is today being provoked into a world war.

    IF Russia today start a world war 3... against the same factions that Hitler began the war.. and attack USA ,UK, Poland, Baltic states  for the war happening in Ukraine.. because it was them who provoked the civil war there and the ones who lead the economic sanctions against Russia to bankrupt its economy (an act of war).. and its them who provide weapons to Kiev and it is them who turn blind eye to the genocide of civilians in eastern ukraine..  if Russia start world war 3.. and for some reason they lose it..   Later the same Anglozionist  mafia.. will rewrite history
    and talk about how "it was RUssia who invaded Europe.. and how Russia stole Crimea.. and how Russia started the war..  they will tell that story to future generations.. completely lying about the conflict and calling the victims ,the aggressors.  Of wait.. this is exactly happening RIGHT NOw!!!!  Russia is the aggressor in Ukraine and the west are the Good guys trying to save the world.  Rolling Eyes   In world war 2.. Anglozionist powers USA+UK+FRance + Jews Elite Used Poland to provoke Germany into a war.. today almost the same factions use Ukraine.. (with the exception of france)  

    History repeats again. and just like in world war 2.. the same Anglo ZIonist mafia are trying to provoke world war 3
    ,this time they are using Putin as the new Hitler.. and this is exactly how Hillary Clinton called him. and the worse of all is that people do not understand how they are being manipulated .

    here is the true History of why Hitler began world war 2.. an attacked Poland.


    IF you see incredible similarities in the events before World war 2 and what is happening in Ukraine and Russia.
    then ,not you are not crazy. the same evil forces are again trying to provoke a war.. and ziofascist Poland once again fueling the fire. Any coincidence or similarity to what is happening in eastern ukraine ,to what was happening eastern prussia and in poland against german minorities is  "just that.. a coincidence". Rolling Eyes


    And the evil forces fully understand a world war 3 will be far more brutal ,if happens.. because of the nuclear weapons. .and they still push for it.. the trick here is to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian citizen blood. and after than European blood.. So that US and UK could enter later only when Russia is weakened and almost defeated.

    Things are not just black and white.. world vs hitler.. there are much more than that. the west provoked world war 1 and world war 2.. and now provoking world war 3.. and is not a coincidence. The Anglozionist powers and the jewish elite are the real bad guys.. and the are now attacking Russia by proxy. Arming Terrorist in middle east to destroy Syria and arming Ultra Radicals Nationalist and criminals in Ukraine.

    World war one and two ,and many other wars will have NEVER happened ,had the world war more balanced and more Independent and Anglozionist Globalist and jewish elite didn't exist or had not such big empire ,controlling the world economies. And neither the problems in Ukraine and terrorism in middle east will exist today..  Crazy to think that the Evil in this world who provoke the world wars ,have not yet been defeated. And I fully appreciate that HiTLer tried but unfortunately he became blind by his success and power in europe and began to attack Russia.  Had Russian Orthodox empire existed and made an alliance with Germany probably the world will be today in peace.. and all the ANgloZionist Evil of this world powerless .



    Germany was provoked to WW2. This is damn true. It is true as well that Axis had their own reasons to initiate an attack against Poland or France or Britain but in the same time there was no reason and a complete lunacy to start a war against the Balkans or even more against Soviet Union. Once they started making success they ended up in an aggressive delirium probably only comparable in history with the most hardcore imperialists like France and Britain themselves or the Mongols or the Arabs during the 8th century.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:07 pm

    Jews didn't start WW2 as they had no real power of their own, though there is certainly a great deal of historical evidence that they were able to use their considerable financial clout to recruit European elite to the idea of breaking the post-Weimar German state and to reinstate the emasculating straight-jacket of the horrendous Treaty of Verseilles.  Jabotinky and his Zionist radicals were however more preoccupied with claiming British-Ruled Palestine as their future Zionist (and Arab-free) homeland, and while there is little doubt that Hitlers moves against Jewish Bankers prompted hostility and hyperbole from the Zionists, it was the imperial ambitions of the British and French that led to war as neither would accept Germany casting off its shackles and challenging the post WW1 order.

    I think that there is also significant evidence to support the contention that the German invasion of Poland in 1942 was solely due to the desire to reunite with the lost territories in the East taken from Germany by the Verseilles treaty, and to deal with an agressive Poland which had been run by a military dictatorship since Pilsudski's coup in 1926. Hitler invaded on 1st Sep, upon which Britain & France declared war on the 3rd, yet despite French & British military preperations, Germany made no attempt to attack in the West until April 1940 (ie some 8 MONTHS after moving against Poland) and only did so as a response to Allied efforts to cut German access to iron ore from Sweden.  

    This is clearly not consistent with a desire to "dominate the world" which is so often claimed by hysterical Westerners.  In 1939 he had no designs on Western Europe, but the East was another story.  Hitler wanted to crush the USSR to gain lebensraum, and the intransigence of the British & French in their desire to roll-back a re-emergent Germany forced him to delay his campaign.  If Britain & France had sought compromise with Hitler regarding Poland, the Western war would most likely have been avoided. Considering that prior to WW1, Poland was divided between Germany and Tsarist Russia, Hitler must have hoped that a return to approx pre-WW1 boundaries would have been accepted by Britain & France in face of the fait accompli of a rapid and coordinated action by Germany and the USSR, and the rapid collapse of Poland.

    The USSR for its part wanted the return of the territories that had been lost by Tsarist Russia as a result of WW1, and in particular the territory lost following the Polish invasion of the USSR in 1919.  The Ribbentrop-Molotov pact had agreed the post-invasion border as approx that of the Curzon line originally proposed by the WW1 Allies before the subsequent Polish invasion of Ukraine then Russia.  Stalin agreed to the RM pact only once it became apparent that Britain & France would not engage in an alliance with USSR to contain Germany.  Once the Munich accords were signed, Stalin was forced to accomodate Hitler over Poland, which in addition to returning lost territory and eliminating the Polish military threat, he hoped this would buy sufficient time to prepare for the inevitable Nazi attack (which German communists had alerted him to).

    In summary, Hitler didn't want to "take over the world" - that claim is simply ludicrous.  He wanted restoration of pre-WW1 German territorial integrity, and to smash Communism and build a greater empire in the East.  Hitler hated the French and British, but still respected them as Europeans and a "Ubermensch", unlike the Easterners who he arrogantly viewed as "Untermensch" and were therefore fit for little but being slaves, working for the glory of his 3rd Reich.  History shows how very wrong Herr Schicklgruber was...


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    Post  Kyo Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:26 pm

    Big_Gazza wrote:History shows how very wrong Herr Stickelgruber was...
    It's actually Schicklgruber.
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    Post  Big_Gazza Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:47 pm

    Kyo wrote:
    Big_Gazza wrote:History shows how very wrong Herr Stickelgruber was...
    It's actually Schicklgruber.

    Thanks, I stand corrected Very Happy
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    Post  TR1 Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:11 am

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBQQ4FDUvBc

    Oh my, more damaged Bulats.
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    Post  Mike E Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:55 am

    TR1 wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBQQ4FDUvBc

    Oh my, more damaged Bulats.
    They haven't been doing well have they? TBH I used to think that Ukrainian tanks were equivalent or even superior to Russian ones.
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    Post  flamming_python Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:02 am

    If we're going to blame the generalization and nationality-slandering game, then it still seems a little silly to blame the Jews for America's foreign policy, because despite their high representation in the American political and military elite - they are still a fairly small minority of the total. White Protestants hold by far the highest representation in American power circles, clean majority in fact and have done since America's inception.

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