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    Post  Vann7 Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:20 am

    Anyone knows how is the public opinion in Russia towards how US and Europe support turn blind eye
    of kiev crimes against eastern civilians and their support for nazism?  What does the average Russian think?
    Do they want Russia to stay away of Ukraine and let them solve their problems.. regardless of the civilians
    casualties asking for help to RUssia and they support their government actions?  Also how they see
    that the European Union threaten always Russia with more sanctions whenever kiev provoke more violence?

    Is sickening the level of hypocrisy of Europe.. turn a blind eye of the civilians killed in eastern ukraine.. not a single
    condemnation against kiev ,not just slightly.. in months of war..with thousands civilians killed,women and children.
    but when mariupol is shelled and looks like Rebels could have done it..(just like the MH-17)  then they call more more sanctions.. not on kiev but on Russia..  

    It will be interesting to see a poll ,about what Russians think moscow should do there .. and how they see
    US and Europe blatant hypocrisy of turning blind eye on kiev war crimes and blaming Russia for all. Specially interesting how other political parties that are more pro integration with the west see it..

    Personally it looks for me so pathetic . Like watching a pehophile rape a children every day and later call police
    to report that someone else did it.. the next day the same man enter another house rape a children and call police
    to denounce the crime.. and police do nothing to arrest the criminal..   You can see that with how the MH-17
    was blamed in Russia and sanctions applied on Russia because of that crime.. nothing done against kiev.. then now that evidence shows that kiev did it.. no one cares about the investigation in Europe or US.

    Obama goes finance ISIS and other terrorist group in Syria and IRAQ fueling the conflict there and same in Ukraine.. give money and weapons to encourage them to continue fighting and violates openly the territorial integrity of Syria and Europe absolutely says NOTHING.. oh but how dare Russia try to help civilians in eastern ukraine that are being bombed every day for close to a year.

    In other news Findland says is ready for more sanctions on Russia , (after kiev breaks the cease fire and start a new offensive against eastern ukraine)

    http://sputniknews.com/politics/20150128/1017430378.html


    Are their blatant hypocrisy a consequence of US blackmail on them..or they are simply immoral and corrupt ?
    Said in another way.. is Europe really so fucked ,and owned by US Gov.. and they do what they do for fear of
    retaliations against them.. or most of Europe is really as corrupt as their anglozionist masters?


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    Post  Mike E Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:33 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Looks like US media is claiming Itar-Tass is a Russian spy agency. This is coming off the heels of recent comments from the head of the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG) who's now claiming 'Russia Today' is on par and comparable to ISIS...this is getting really pathetic:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/27/meet-russian-spies-best-friends-in-the-media-itar-tass.html
    Gotta say I wet myself at least a *little bit* when I first stumbled across that article. What kind of idiots do they think we are? Er.... Idiots the American population are? Errrrr...... Oh, wait a second....
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    Post  Vann7 Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:04 am


    In more news Poroshenko adviser apparently leaks the disaster of the 4th wave mobilization... Ukrainians
    from 20% to 50% depending on zones ,that have been asked to show up for training ,refuse to join the war.. and flee to bordering nations like Romania or Russia.

    Apparently the adviser in frustration and upset for the lack of patriotism posted the information on his facebook page and later was removed.

    Poroshenko adviser leaks disastrous data about the fourth wave of mobilization



    "He hoarsely shouts "Glory to Ukraine", tells everyone what a neurotically typical patriot he is. He is the best strategist in the history of modernity, is able by the power of thought to destroy enemy BTRG. Of course his profile is full of national symbols. He is a resident of Ivano-Frankivsk, Ternopil, Transcarpathia, Volyn regions [note Central and Eastern regions are not included, but no one cares what they think or want]. He despises the weakness of Kiev authorities, has juicy comments for the President. He argues passionately that speaking Russian language is a sign of working for the Moscals.

    But also - he is a cowardly bastard... pinning his tail between his legs, he hides from the Commissar, he changes his phone number, he collects his possessions and runs to Romania, Hungary, Slovakia or Poland. And sits there, amused with his genius.

    Got the first report on the implementation of the plan of the fourth wave of mobilization. Across the country, in each region.

    AND I DON'T GET IT!

    I don't understand the phrases, do not understand the facts.

    ... The heads of 14 rural councils of Ivano-Frankivsk oblast refused to accept the summons for notifications

    ... 57% of notified conscripts in Ivano-Frankivsk region did not arrive for medical commission.

    ... 37% of notified conscripts of Ivano-Frankivsk region have left the territory of Ukraine

    ... Heads of rural councils of Ternopil region openly sabotage events of notification, in case of appearance in the area of representatives of RVC - warn the residents of their own and surrounding villages.

    ... the head of the village council of Konyukhi, Kozovsky district reported that local people rented 2 buses and left for the territory of the Russian Federation.


    Full report.

    http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/01/poroshenko-adviser-leaks-disastrous.html


    In more news Kiev parliament declare Russia an aggressor.. in efforts to get a solid case for strong sanctions
    against Russia in this week. They start a major offensive against eastern Ukraine ,breaking the cease of fire ,and things does not goes as planned and now they blame Russia for the escalation of violence ,that they provoked.
    IS interesting how kiev major offensive began just 2-3 days after France called for lifting sanctions on Russia..
    The entire conflict in Ukraine is a USA economic war on Russia.. Using Ukraine violence that they instigate to isolate Russia from Europe.


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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:38 am

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Looks like US media is claiming Itar-Tass is a Russian spy agency. This is coming off the heels of recent comments from the head of the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG) who's now claiming 'Russia Today' is on par and comparable to ISIS...this is getting really pathetic:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/27/meet-russian-spies-best-friends-in-the-media-itar-tass.html

    If ITAR Tass is Russian spy agency then what are BBC, RFI, RFA, Fox News ?
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    Post  Morpheus Eberhardt Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:03 am

    Regular wrote:So UKRs are surrounded or not ?Smile

    I think the pincer has been closed—this is from various news outlets.

    Normally this kind of "news" is released with the required time delay.
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    Post  higurashihougi Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:33 am

    Only 6% of the Ukie volunteers responded to the recent mobilization. Very Happy

    Mass dessertion and evasion of military duty is everywhere. Many of the Ukie people ran toward... Russia. Very Happy

    In Kosovskogo village, the whole population of the village hired 2 bus and ran toward Russia. Very Happy Very Happy

    Putin said on Monday that Russia might extend the period of sojourn in Russian territory for Ukrainians of conscription age who can be drafted into the Ukrainian army. Very Happy

    http://russia-insider.com/en/2015/01/28/2855?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
    http://www.kp.ru/daily/26333/3217369/
    http://korrespondent.net/ukraine/3471788-mobylyzatsyia-2015-na-zakarpate-luidy-vyezzhauit-za-hranytsu-tselymy-selamy

    Oh oh oh , why Ukrainian people do not want to participate in the glorious national defence against the "agression of Russia" ? Smile  Smile  Smile

    Pianist Valentina ‪Lisitsa‬ claimed that Ukrainian people love in Russia because Russians pay better salary and have better chance of promotion. Ukie hate Russia but want to work at Russia, receive Russian money. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

    http://deutsche-wirtschafts-nachrichten.de/2015/01/19/star-pianistin-lisitsa-es-gibt-plaene-fuer-einen-grossen-ausverkauf-der-ukraine/

    What happen ? Why Ukie people work for "evil Russia" ? Smile Smile Smile
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    Post  Kimppis Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:52 am

    Are they going to mention that in the western mainstream media?



    ....

    Sigh.
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    Post  arpakola Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:02 pm

    Oleg Tsarov is talking about American preparations for revolutions in Ukraine circa Nov 2013, about 1 yr before the US sponsored armed coup.



    One of the ukie captive released to mother



    Givi in action



    Azov batalion at work:



    Near city of Novoazovsk in DNR, Novorossia Armed Forces managed to capture newest batch modernized T-64, made originally for D.R. Congo

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    Serbian volunteer unit "Serbian Hussars" attacked positions of Ukrop Army near Donetsk.
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    Post  arpakola Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:05 pm

    Greece might block fresh EU sanctions against Russia
    http://www.neurope.eu/article/greece-might-block-fresh-eu-sanctions-against-russia

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    Minister of exterior Nikos Kotzias is a proffessor in University of Pireus and ex member of the polite berau of the Communist Party of Greece (KKE)

    No decision on new sanctions against Russia will be taken at the extraordinary EU Foreign Affairs Council on Thursday.

    This was announced by the Latvian Foreign Minister Edgars Rinkevics, whose country is chairing the Council during this semester.
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    "I want to say right away that there will be no conclusive decisions on specific sanctions this Thursday. Most probably, a task will be given to prepare proposals, on which the Foreign Affairs Council might decide on Feb. 9," the Latvian minister said.

    Latvia's position is that the sanctions against Russia must be increased if the situation in eastern Ukraine continues to deteriorate.

    "If the situation improves the sanctions can be eased. If the situation remains unchanged the sanctions must remain unchanged too. If the situation deteriorates it is necessary to discuss stepping them up," Rinkevics said.

    Valdis Dombrovskis, the European Commission Vice-President for Social Dialogue and the EU from Latvia, also told journalists in Brussels on Tuesday that the bloc's current sanctions against Russia would be lifted or increased depending on Russia's actions.

    "The sanctions can be revised in any direction -- they can be increased, or, in the optimistic scenario, eased," Dombrovskis said.

    EU foreign ministers are expected in principle to consider fresh sanctions against Russia at their extraordinary meeting this Thursday amid new escalation in Ukraine.

    The Latvian foreign minister did not mention Greece, but there is a high probability that in case of new sanctions Greece might use its veto.

    A first clash with Athens happened on Tuesday, when  the new Greek government rejected the Council's statement on Ukraine. Athens accused the Council as well as EEAS and Federica Mogherini of proceeding with the document without Greece's consent, just minutes after the new Prime Minister, Alexis Tsipras took office in Athens.

    “The Statement of Heads of State and Government of the EU published today was circulated without the proper procedures being followed in order to obtain the consent of Member States and specifically Greece's consent”, announced the new Greek Prime Minister's Office, Dimitris Tzanakopoulos.

    “Within this context we clarify that it does not have our country's consent. Our displeasure for this was expressed during a telephone conversation of the Prime Minister with the High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Federica Mogherini as well at the proper level, by the Permanet Representation of Greece to the EU”, he added.

    “We don't agree with the spirit of sanctions against Russia, which has negative results not only for agriculture, as far as our own country's economy is concerned, but also in general”, said on Wednesday 28 January the new Greek deputy Foreign Minister, Nikos Hountis.

    In an interview to the Athens and Macedonian News Agency, he also said that “Our objections on the issue will presented at the Foreign Minister's Council the Greek foreign Minister, Nikos Kotzias”.

    “Other countries have similar reactions, because of the consequences of the sanctions” he added.

    Referring to yesterday's Statement of Heads of State and Government of the EU that provoked a strong reaction from Athens, he noted that “there is a rush by certain Members States and this was expressed through that statement about which Greece expressed its displeasure.”

    The new Greek foreign minister, Nikos Kotzias, might block new sanctions on Russia at the Council in Brussels. Kotzias is a professor of European Studies, a former member of the Greek Communist Party and a well-known friend of Russia. In the past he spoke against what he calls a "German-dominated Europe" and, in the 1980s, he praised the Polish government's crackdown on the Solidarity movement.

    As soon as he became foreign minister, on 27 January, he accused the outgoing minister, Evangelos Venizelos, from the Nea Demokratia, of having let Brussels use Greece’s debt in order to force Athens to align itself with the rest of the EU.

    Sympathy for Russia runs deep through the Greek psyche, and many politicians, as well as part of the population, hope that Moscow would come to the rescue financially, as it tried to do with Cyprus in 2012.

    The present dispute started after the European Council president Donald Tusk said that in the January 29 meeting of foreign ministers "further restrictive measures" against Russia should be considered. Donald Tusk comes from the Polish Solidarity movement, which makes him the ideological opposite of some of the people forming the present Greek government. Also, Tusk has an uncompromising stance against Russia, which was seen as a salutary counterbalance to the softer attitude of Federica Mogherini, the chief of the EU’s diplomacy, but which might foresee further clashes with Athens.  

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    Post  Kyo Wed Jan 28, 2015 1:41 pm

    'Greece-EU clash over anti-Russia statement: others may follow Athens' suit'
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    Post  sepheronx Wed Jan 28, 2015 2:15 pm

    Kyo wrote:'Greece-EU clash over anti-Russia statement: others may follow Athens' suit'

    There was always divide in EU over Russian sanctions. I am pretty certain no one actually believes what that Italian whore FM of EU says. At this point, I think Russia is more prepared for more sanctions than before, but not greece and alike.
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    Post  arpakola Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:15 pm

    ouga ouga .. @##@@*>##$ ouga
    slava AZOF batalion , slava Ukraina


    Dancing of fascists battalion Azov - intentional self-introduction into a trance to increase aggression.
    I think some of our readers have seen a short video about the strange dance of thugs from fascist battalion "Azov". This dance is called Moshing, or slamdancing, is a style of dance where participants push or slam into each other. It is usually associated with “aggressive” music genres, such as hardcore punk and numerous styles of heavy metal.
    Gunmen Azov performed this dance with the racist songs and from time to time raised their hands in a Nazi salute.
    Network activists who are familiar with the techniques of trance and activists who have studied totalitarian sects wrote that thus gunmen of Azov injected themselves into a trance and become capable of the crimes which they could not do in a normal state. Even if an ordinary person every evening in these dances represent himself and the rest of the battalion as super race, then after a while he will not be think about himself differently.
    Thugs of Azov are long time brainwashed people and by such dances they deliberately lead themselves to the usual aggressive state. Of course in the battalion Azov and other fascist battalions there are other methods of introducing into a trance and altered states of consciousness, except this dance. Torchlight processions taken in Nazi Germany and using in Ukraine, is the most well-known method of introducing into a trance
    Some people claim that there is no evidence that this is dancing of battalion "Azov". Specifically for them were made screenshots of the video, which shows the gunman Azov in black t-shirt. In front of his T-shirt visible emblem of Azov, in the back is written the name of the battalion - АЗОВ "Azov".
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    Post  arpakola Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:31 pm

    arpakola wrote:Greece might block fresh EU sanctions against Russia
    http://www.neurope.eu/article/greece-might-block-fresh-eu-sanctions-against-russia

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    Minister of exterior Nikos Kotzias is a proffessor in University of Pireus and ex member of the polite berau of the Communist Party of Greece (KKE)


    Few minutes ago the Ultra nationalist party Golden Dawn (Xrysi avgi) of Greece (they got 6,3% on national scale) , made an announcment that in fact agrees 100% with the SYRIZA (radical LEFT) party against the new proposed EU sanctions against Russia
    http://www.xryshaygh.com/enimerosi/view/ochi-stis-kurwseis-kata-ths-rwsias-ochi-stis-idiwtikopoihseis
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    Post  par far Wed Jan 28, 2015 4:41 pm

    arpakola wrote:ouga ouga .. @##@@*>##$ ouga
    slava AZOF batalion , slava Ukraina


    Dancing of fascists battalion Azov - intentional self-introduction into a trance to increase aggression.
    I think some of our readers have seen a short video about the strange dance of thugs from fascist battalion "Azov". This dance is called Moshing, or slamdancing, is a style of dance where participants push or slam into each other. It is usually associated with “aggressive” music genres, such as hardcore punk and numerous styles of heavy metal.
    Gunmen Azov performed this dance with the racist songs and from time to time raised their hands in a Nazi salute.
    Network activists who are familiar with the techniques of trance and activists who have studied totalitarian sects wrote that thus gunmen of Azov injected themselves into a trance and become capable of the crimes which they could not do in a normal state. Even if an ordinary person every evening in these dances represent himself and the rest of the battalion as super race, then after a while he will not be think about himself differently.
    Thugs of Azov are long time brainwashed people and by such dances they deliberately lead themselves to the usual aggressive state. Of course in the battalion Azov and other fascist battalions there are other methods of introducing into a trance and altered states of consciousness, except this dance. Torchlight processions taken in Nazi Germany and using in Ukraine, is the most well-known method of introducing into a trance
    Some people claim that there is no evidence that this is dancing of battalion "Azov". Specifically for them were made screenshots of the video, which shows the gunman Azov in black t-shirt. In front of his T-shirt visible emblem of Azov, in the back is written the name of the battalion - АЗОВ "Azov".  


    These thugs are run the Zionist jew igor kolomoisky, I think it is time that we start hitting ass holes like igor kolomoisky directly.
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    Post  Kyo Wed Jan 28, 2015 6:38 pm

    "Enemy is squandering his numerical superiority"--Novorossia Militia

    Novorossia Militia Update, 1/28/2015

    Translated from Russian by J.Hawk

    "Today the Ukrainian forces prefer to shell us rather than attack us. We are doing the same. Our attack on the Debaltsevo salient is continuing. Fighting everywhere. Hot-spots of resistance in Lozovoy, but fewer with every day, it’s like an ant-hill full of Ukrainians. Troitskoye has been described as “ours” or “not ours”, but in actuality it is shared. Both our and their forces are in the town, we take turns pushing one another out. A big mess. Krasnyy Pakhar, on the other hand, definitely ours. We had to leave Mironovskoye for Krasnyy Pakhar. A draw in Mironovka, high-intensity street fights. It seems we took Shevchenko. But we need to wait on that one, we don’t have fortifications or a defense plan yet. But Novoorlovka is definitely ours. And we are ready to give the Ukrainians a warm greeting. It’s looking like a stalemate along much of the front. There are more Ukrainians, but we have more experience and higher morale. That balances the forces. But the enemy is quickly squandering his numerical superiority in numerous, senseless, and merciless attacks! We are able to hone our skills as if on a firing range, full of drunk and drugged targets. That’s the only way Ukrainian forces attack right now.”

    Translator’s Note: The battle is transforming into a larger-scale re-enactment of the Donetsk Airport drama: first Novorossia forces capture a vital location, then the Ukrainian forces beat themselves to pieces trying to retake it in the face of militia artillery fire. And the Ukrainian grouping in Debaltsevo still has not been relieved, and it has not attempted to break out, although it’s not clear whether it still could attempt an offensive maneuver of this sort. But this is a battle that the Kiev regime cannot afford to lose, so it will continue its attacks until it runs out of battleworthy units—or until it faces a rebellion in its own ranks.
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    Post  magnumcromagnon Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:00 pm

    Sh*t just got real:

    Blitzkrieg turned mayhem: Hacktivists claim they reveal Ukrainian troops’ annihilation
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    Post  par far Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:58 pm

    magnumcromagnon wrote:Sh*t just got real:

    Blitzkrieg turned mayhem: Hacktivists claim they reveal Ukrainian troops’ annihilation



    No shocking news there, we already knew that. One thing that we also know is that the US supports and finances terrorism. And another thing we know that the terrorists in Nigeria, the fascists on Russia borders, problems in Venezuela, sanctions on Iran and terrorists in Syria and Iraq are the case of the US because these countries can collapse the petrodollar overnight.


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    Post  Kyo Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:32 pm

    We’ll Survive Until the Day After Tomorrow

    By Parmen Posokhov

    Translated from Russian by J.Hawk

    1/28/2015

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    The militia offensive has been halted almost everywhere except for the Debaltsevo pocket. The resources of the militia first-line have been nearly exhausted. However, the main forces, which comprise the 2nd echelon, have not been sent into action, in contrast to the Ukrainian army which had thrown into battle nearly everything it had, and now is desperately begging the world for military and financial assistance, and to squeeze Russia with sanctions. That the junta is in a state of panic was made obvious enough by the hysterical vote in the Rada which labeled Russia an aggressor. It is possible to finish off the Kiev regime in this situation, but Moscow is waiting. We are in an operational pause. The question is: what are we waiting for? Perhaps tomorrow’s EU decision concerning new sanctions against Russia. There will definitely be sanctions. It’s not clear how many and whom they’ll affect. Maybe they’ll cut us off from SWIFT, maybe not. Maybe two more rating agencies degrade Russia, maybe not. And so on.

    I don’t know whether it’s worth waiting, for tactical reasons, the results of the EU sit-down, but it’s clear that they’ll cut us off from SWIFT, and degrade our rating, and do many other things, if not tomorrow then the day after tomorrow or next month. So what are we waiting for? For the Right Sector to bring up their “Hitler Youth” to the front line? Or when NATO instructors start appearing in large numbers to replace the killed off officer corps of the Ukrainian army? That they’ll start appearing there is no doubt. They already started. And not a few. There will be a war. Until victory, or until the last Ukrainian.

    Washington has given its go-ahead. Donbass is to be wiped off the face of the Earth. Ukraine must win. And Russia must stop helping DPR and LPR, and turn its back in shame as the Donbass is drowning in blood. UN and OSCE already turned their backs, noticing only the bloody Ukrainian provocations attributed to the militia. From now on they will work hand in glove. There will be no compromise. They demand Russia’s capitulation. Unconditional, without saving face. Will we accept that?

    We will not, and there is no other choice. Irrespective of tomorrow’s EU decision concerning sanctions, it’s time to attack. Any pause only helps the Ukrainians. The first phase of January battles has served its purpose. It forced them to reveal its military deployment scheme and introduce both tactical and operational reserves into battle. Any further delay will negatively affect our forces’ morale and on the future combat operations. Not to mention the Russian society which is already in astonishment at how the Ukrainian army is continuing to annihilate the Donbass with impunity.

    Half-measures are stupid. We already saw last spring, when we recognized the Kiev regime, and during the Fall, when we signed the Minsk agreements. Half-measures, spread over time, do not become any less dumb. How many times can we step on the same rake?

    Translator's Note: The author makes a perfectly valid point, namely that Russia has been pulling its punches over the last year. Clearly the survival of the Ukrainian economy and therefore the Ukrainian state is in Kremlin's hands. One is left with the impression that the Russian government does not want to see Poroshenko fall and be replaced by a Right Sector regime or some other variation on that theme. Ultimately Russia does not want to see Ukraine suffer, in stark contrast to its "western partners" who are entirely indifferent to the suffering on the ground. The calculation may be that Poroshenko, a thoroughgoing opportunist rather than an ideologue, needs more time to rein in, or rid himself of, the extremists, then start rebuilding Ukraine's relations with Russia. However, should the Kremlin decide Poroshenko and Ukraine are lost causes, it will write both of them off. And Ukraine cannot survive that as a state.
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    Post  sepheronx Wed Jan 28, 2015 9:17 pm

    Regardless what Russia does, they will be labeled and sanctioned by EU and North America (excluding Mexico). At this point, call in a no fly zone and start dropping bombs (like west did in Libya) on Ukrainian troops and let the NovoRussians start to advance and take positions. Or at least bomb Ukrainian artillery positions.
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    Post  Vann7 Wed Jan 28, 2015 10:45 pm



    Interesting video.. shows Motorola tour at airport and how the novorosiya fighters get equipment and perhaps weapons.. it looks billionaires in Russia are funding them and buying their equipment.. Motorola looks like a polite of crimea.. well armed and dressed for combat. Video says 18+ but i didn't saw anything there at all..
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    Post  Werewolf Wed Jan 28, 2015 11:41 pm

    sepheronx wrote:Regardless what Russia does, they will be labeled and sanctioned by EU and North America (excluding Mexico). At this point, call in a no fly zone and start dropping bombs (like west did in Libya) on Ukrainian troops and let the NovoRussians start to advance and take positions. Or at least bomb Ukrainian artillery positions.

    Well 2014 we found out it is already wrong and a crime to be a russian, so much is evident from the USrael propaganda.
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    Post  franco Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:06 am

    Werewolf wrote:
    sepheronx wrote:Regardless what Russia does, they will be labeled and sanctioned by EU and North America (excluding Mexico). At this point, call in a no fly zone and start dropping bombs (like west did in Libya) on Ukrainian troops and let the NovoRussians start to advance and take positions. Or at least bomb Ukrainian artillery positions.

    Well 2014 we found out it is already wrong and a crime to be a russian, so much is evident from the USrael propaganda.

    Hate to rain on your on your anti-Jewish / Zionist or whatever beliefs amigo, but one of the more interesting sideshows has been Israels non-support of the Russian sanctions. It is because they know who is on the Ukrainian team.
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    Post  Mike E Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:07 am

    They probably use 18+ because of the so-called "harsh language".


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    Post  Hannibal Barca Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:08 am

    Rubbish. It is because they can afford to have it both ways. They pay back Russia's silence to their crimes while their puppets USA/EU run the show.
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    Post  Werewolf Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:06 am

    Hate to rain on your on your anti-Jewish / Zionist or whatever beliefs amigo, but one of the more interesting sideshows has been Israels non-support of the Russian sanctions. It is because they know who is on the Ukrainian team.

    Wrong, Israel is the one meddling along the US in ukraine, the US is their lapdog since decades on foreign policy, that is why US is doing all the wars with ME countries, since Israel can not do that. This is not baseless assumption of mine that is a fact, in a fascist SS-loving Nazi state country like Ukraine you have jews controlling those nazis. Kolomoisky for instance shouting Anti-russian garbage with private financed MSM in Ukraine like Ukraine Today, 1+1 and other garbage he owns. He was also among such zionazis like Porkyshenko on Maidan steering up shit among the fascists. With zionazis like Yazenjewk which is openly advocating and supporting and rewriting history in favor of Nazism.

    The jewish controlled MSM are not neutral nor on Side of russia just watch this "neutral" reports of ISIS (Mossad like Israeli Intelligence Agency).

    Jewish One, small but hardcore zionazi news constantly edited and swarmed by paid trolls who openly ask for genocide on muslisms and russians.



    Jews and Zionists are not some neutral group to this conflict, they are the main fuel of the politics of US, they controll over AIPAC foreign politics of USA.

    Such pictures are not a coincidence and such pictures tell you the true nature of Ukraine conflict, nazis controlled by zionazis, they are one and the same.

    Right Sector and jews, which they constantly openly claim to want to kill but are controlled by them.


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    Israeli soldiers on Maidan helping other fascists of pravy sector to overthrow government and have killed policemen and demosntrants to steer up shit.
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/1.577114


    Nuland (zionist jew) leaked phone call who they want in the government and who they use another zionist jew (klitschko) as the idiot for sympathy points from the stupid common folk.
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    Alot of involvement from the neutral Israel and jews in right Sector and fascists in Ukraine to claim they are "neutral" in this conflict is dellusional and right out a lie. All evidence is here that they want,wish and are indeed fueling this conflict through actions because they profit from it.

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